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Bible Code website links Saddam to WTC attack
http://www.biblecodedigest.com/page.php/51 ^ | 9/19/2001 | Ted

Posted on 09/19/2001 5:15:08 AM PDT by Ted

If you've not heard of the Bible code books/studies it is some interesting stuff. It's far more important to base one's faith on the Scriptures as written in plain text, IMO. Take it or leave it, click on the link above. I thought it worthwhile to read through once.


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1 posted on 09/19/2001 5:15:09 AM PDT by Ted
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To: Ted
The Bible Codes are a time machine that can be used to decipher past events. They can't be used to foretell the future since it would deprive man of free will.
2 posted on 09/19/2001 5:16:45 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
I did not say it foretells the future...

Folks, I have an mtg I have to run to, and won't be able to reply to anything. This really was a FWIW post, take it or leave it.

Regards.

3 posted on 09/19/2001 5:22:30 AM PDT by Ted
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To: goldstategop
Did you read the book "The Bible Code"? Fascinating stuff. The author, while researching and writing it, makes a pretty good case against your argument, I think.
4 posted on 09/19/2001 5:23:56 AM PDT by Gurn
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To: goldstategop
The Bible Codes are pure unadulterated BS.

You can get the same results using the same methods on the text of War and Peace or the Encyclopedia Britannica.

5 posted on 09/19/2001 5:25:16 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Ted
It needs some clearing up for laymen like me. I don't know Hebrew.
6 posted on 09/19/2001 5:26:18 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Ted
Quick! Forward this to the State Department!
7 posted on 09/19/2001 5:26:40 AM PDT by BurkeanCyclist
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To: Poohbah
Exactly. The so-called "Bible codes" are the wolf of pagan superstition wrapped in the sheep's clothing of Scripture.
8 posted on 09/19/2001 5:27:41 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: goldstategop
The only fallacy with your position is Revelation...and the Old Testament prophecies. Foreknowledge doesn't deprive anyone of anything. Free will exists for people to make up their own mind about any/everything. I don't buy into the Bible Code...but, having read it I can see how the interest factor is there. I wouldn't claim to know the mind and heart of God when it comes to the ways He uses to communicate with mankind beyond the Scriptures and His own Holy Spirit convicting of sin and guiding Believers.
9 posted on 09/19/2001 5:38:43 AM PDT by borisbob69
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To: wideawake
Respectfully, I disagree. I've read a bit on the subject, and am a believer in Scripture. There is also, though the Jewish students of the code play this down, a name that occurs over and over (in code) in the Messianic prophecies of the old testament: Yesu.
10 posted on 09/19/2001 5:39:47 AM PDT by Gurn
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To: Ted
This is goofball stuff and reminds me of Tarot cards and numerology.

Notice they are selling a book and talk about subscriptions - somebody is making money off this.

The value of the Bible and other religious writings is in pondering the wisdom of the text, not matching up letters to look for clues.

Easier to read news releases - many of them say Iraq may have involvement with the bombings.

11 posted on 09/19/2001 5:43:34 AM PDT by Old Lady
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To: wideawake
I happen to believe the Codes are accurate. So far no one's been able to debunk them. They certainly strengthen the traditional view that G-d was the author of the entire Torah. If you look at that page examining the code in Ezekiel and the exact description of "Manhattan," "Saddam," "Bin Laden," "Arafat," "The explosion in the Towers," and "Pentagon" all in the original Hebrew you wonder how its possible for someone living 4,000 years ago to foresee the EXACT details of history as they were happen. No human being then alive could and not now which leaves only ONE conclusion. Atheists won't like it. The decoding of the passage with names and events so specific, its chilling to realize this is in a 4,000 year old plus document. What else does the Torah say about tomorrow we don't know yet but can only check up on after its happened? Like I just said what are the odds of any one being able to write accurate names, places and happenings thousands of years later down to the last second? THE DETAILS. And now thanks to the Torah we have the pieces of the puzzle falling into place and can apprehend the horror of what happened and who the players were who put it into motion. As vivid and real as today's news reports.
12 posted on 09/19/2001 5:44:45 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Poohbah
Here are two articles debunking the Bible Code.

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13 posted on 09/19/2001 5:46:02 AM PDT by michaelt
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Er, no you can't. Course, you haven't bothered to read the "Bible Code" or you would know that. They have run INNUMERABLE "control" studies on "War and Peace," "Gone with the Wind," blah blah, and NEVER come up with anything remotely of the sophistication of the "Bible Code."
14 posted on 09/19/2001 5:49:53 AM PDT by LS (schweikart@erinet.com)
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To: goldstategop
They are always accurate AFTER an event.
15 posted on 09/19/2001 5:50:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Poohbah
I tried War and Peace, which returned "Mets Sweep '62 Series" and "Liston Knocks Out Clay."
16 posted on 09/19/2001 5:52:07 AM PDT by dighton
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To: goldstategop
You can accomplish the EXACT same result using any sufficiently large collection of letters, such as the collected postings on Free Republic, the text of War and Peace, or an encyclopedia.

Please note that the words of Scripture are the same words used in secular writing; the same consonant/vowel relationships and frequency counts still exist in Scripture as they do in ordinary writing. In short, you are looking at a group of letters and seeking individual words using arbitrary rules.

17 posted on 09/19/2001 5:52:21 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: LS
That's because they changed the methodology for the "control" studies.
18 posted on 09/19/2001 5:54:42 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: dighton
Interesting. I found "McVeigh," "Oklahoma," "bomb," and "Murrah" in War and Peace on the Skeptical Inquirer website.
19 posted on 09/19/2001 5:56:20 AM PDT by Poohbah
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20 posted on 09/19/2001 6:01:20 AM PDT by It'salmosttolate
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