Church Lady voice: "Could it beeeeee ZERO?"
Posted on 09/20/2001 5:31:42 PM PDT by Moosejaw
(CNSNews.com) - A new Federal Aviation Regulation scheduled to take effect in November of this year would take away the right of pilots, co-pilots, and navigators to carry firearms and other weapons for self-defense.
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) spokesman Paul Takemoto acknowledged Thursday that flight crews have been authorized to carry firearms for the past 20 years.
"That will change on November 14," he said. "The new rule will not include authorization (to carry firearms) and crew members will no longer be allowed to carry arms."
FIVE THOUSAND LOST LIVES FOR THE WANT OF TWO THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY DOLLARS.
Israel Airlines bolts the Cockpit door and all Pilots and copilots carry Firearms.
(TELL THE AIRLINE PRESIDENTS AND CEO'S)
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Ponder for a moment.
We trust a pilot with a 30 million-dollar plane knowledgeable of complex airplane functions, but government policy will not allow them to operate a simple firearm.
I’LL FLY AGAIN WHEN PILOTS ARE ARMED.
Israel Airlines bolts the Cockpit door and all Pilots and copilots carry Firearms.
Scanning the websites this week the following thread from Pilots, Law Enforcement, and American Citizens discuss ways to take positive action against air terrorism.
We trust a fancy security question (Thanks to Jim Kallstom, former FBI, did you pack your bags?) but not millions of active and retired law enforcement officers to Citizen Carry on an airplane.
May I rant for a second! Get these liberal, antigun activists out of our government decision making process. Consider, Israel Airlines policy is to bolt the door, arms it pilots, and has armed travelers in the cabin.
We allow lowly-paid gate-guards to gate dis-arm us, creating a "killing zone of disarmed citizens", as passingers "do battle" in the sky with terrorists, using passion for weapons because misguided government policy has left us defenseless.
The government can not protect you when the terrorist is eyeball to eyeball with you. Now they have ban my pocketknife used to clean my nails. What next, bottles, because they can be smashed for a weapon??
Most all of the former military pilots strapped firearms to their legs when on active duty. Today they are considered not capable, wear the wrong uniform, or untrust worthy.
This BS about putting a 9mm hole in the skin of an airplane will bring it down is more rhetoric and fiction than fact. Just ask the thousand of airmen who returned from flights over Germany in WWII. How about the 747 over Hawaii with a 20-foot hole in the side. Still got a problem with possible decompression? Consider the alternative!
I’ll trust anyday my life to any active or retired law enforcement officer to CITIZEN CARRY on any airline.
I’ll trust anyday my life to any pilot or copilot active or retired to carry on any airline.
I’ll trust any American citizen willing to CITIZEN CARRY after extensive training to carry on any airline. It is a huge responsibility, however, the current "Killing Zones" set up by faulty thinking is killing our husbands, wives, children, and our nation.
I am sure thousands perhaps millions of American’s would trust their life to armed pilots, copilots, air crew members, retired, policemen, FBI, CIA, ATF, or American Citizens willing to train, quality, and stay current with cabin safety issues keeping America airlines safe.
I personally trust all of the above personnel, rather than phony security questions, low-pay air guards, unlocked backdoor food and cleaning functions or gates at airports, or government officials with big titles.
WHO DO YOU TRUST THE GOVERNMENT? OR DO YOU TRUST HONEST AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO LIVE AND BREATH FAMILY SAFETY WHEN TRAVELING?
What do you want in your cockpit, a pilot and copilot with a firearm, or a terrorist? 2,180 dollars (four colt pistols)would have prevented all four terrorist acts and saved five thousand lives.
Government will spend billions of dollars with highly visible, and breach-able security that irritates American citizens during check-in when other more effective obvious solutions exist. Just ask Israel.
Thousands of American veterans, retired LEO's and American Citzens want to sign up today to fight terrorism. Don't tell them they are unqualified. If you do tell them they are unqualifed, they may have a word or two for you.
Visit keepandbeararms.com to carry the fight.
Paul Williams
WWW.KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM
Advising Director
end Five thousand American Citizens lost their life for the want of two thousand one hundred eight dollars.
(TELL THE AIRLINE PRESIDENTS AND CEO'S)
Other websites with Pilot talk
( Federal Observer help pilots reclaim cockpits )
http://www.federalobserver.com/index.php?section=Arm+Pilots+NOW%21
(Five thousand lose live for want of a shoelace)
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ba6ac034145.htm
http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/sep/18/arfs091801.htm
( Kamikaze Pilots on U.S. Soil)
http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/sep/14/arfl091401.htm
http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/sep/18/arnj091801.htm
http://www.saveourguns.com/selfdefense.htm
http://www.2asisters.org/safety/index.htm
<a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24549”>( Captains to FAA Focus on cockpits Pilots argue for bullet-proof doors, cameras, guns)</a><P> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24549 <P> end <P>
Bureaucrats....
It's time for the DemonRATs to be booted.
Church Lady voice: "Could it beeeeee ZERO?"
He was not aware of whether or not the FAA had ever approved a firearms training course for flight crews, or whether such a request had ever been made.
Takemoto indicated that the agency was too busy to research the issue in light of the on-going investigation into the take-over of four passenger jets by terrorists armed with plastic knives and box cutters on September 11.
Gotta love this author's use of juxtaposition...
Idiots at FAA. Guess they, and Congress, don't want passengers for the airline industry they are going to prop up with tax bux.
All airline crew should have the option of carrying, pending the completion of an industry standardized course.
The airlines are given the option of placing armed guards on flights on a basis of their choosing, from 50% to 100% of flights. The airlines fund the training and salary for these private sector employees who attend Air marshal courses at FLETC in Glynco. Private sector guards, paid for by the airlines, trained to a common, national standard, given Veteran's preference in hiring. Any terrorist would know he faced at least a 50% chance of being on a plane with at least one sub rosa armed guard. Airlines that chose, voluntarily, to increase the % could use that as a marketing tool.
Military personel, traveling on official orders, should be afforded the opportunity to attend an air-travel firearms qualification course in conjunction with their already mandatory travel brief, which would entitle them to carry their sidearm.
Private detectives/ personal security guards, and CCW license holders should have the option of adding to their licensing fees and qualifications, the option of applying for air-carry credentials pending completion of the appropriate training, which would allow them to pack on domestic flights.
Pilots, responsible for the safety and all other aspects of the flights, would be informed as to which passengers were armed. All armed passengers would be informed as to which other passengers were legitimately bearing as well, prior to the flight.
I firmly believe in the individual rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment, however the rights and responsibilities of a privately owned air-carrier to dictate standards and rules of behavior on their private property cannot be overlooked. The interstate commerce clause; likewise, cannot be thrown out the window.
While most here will find it anathema, the concept of Federal and state governments, working in conjunction with individuals and industry is possible...
Luke 22:36 (KJV) --Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
Got sword? (M1 Garand ==>CMP)
No mercy, no quarter!
May the jihadists burn in hell for eternity!
Help speed them on their way!
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