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The (Middle East) Allies Who Made Our Foes
Newsweek ^ | 09/23/01 | Fareed Zakaria

Posted on 09/23/2001 3:36:17 PM PDT by veronica

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Oct. 1 issue

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1 posted on 09/23/2001 3:36:17 PM PDT by veronica
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To: dennisw, DistantVoice, Illbay, JohnHuang2, STD, vrwc54, Thinkin' Gal, Sabramerican
HEADS UP.
2 posted on 09/23/2001 3:37:31 PM PDT by veronica
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To: agrace, Miss American Pie, BenF, Nachum, Tom_Busch, RCW2001, Calhoun_The_Lawyer
HEADS UP
3 posted on 09/23/2001 3:38:54 PM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
I think the rules have changed; the gloves are off (or should be!).

The Saudis will no longer pretend that they are not funding terrorism indirectly

And we will no longer pretend that the Oil Cartel is illegal by our definition, and admit our payments at the gas pump is funding the terrorists too!

4 posted on 09/23/2001 3:41:26 PM PDT by publius911
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To: veronica
Thanks for this article.

The more I read and learn about the Arab states, the more difficult it is becoming to have any kind of regard for any of them.

It is U.S. soldiers who are protecting the holy sites of Mecca from destruction.

And Israel guarantees freedom of access to the Muslim semi-religious sites.

5 posted on 09/23/2001 3:41:38 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Samaritan
More fiction from Newsweak. No one from the commie mag could get close enough to anyone in the Bush administration to get any information about what goes on in their "inner circle".
7 posted on 09/23/2001 3:57:55 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Samaritan
Only a moron would think the terrorists do not demand blackmail from Gulf states.
9 posted on 09/23/2001 4:04:39 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: gov_bean_ counter, Samaritan
Look at the name of the writer. He knows of what he speaks.

Hey you two...denial is not just a river in Egypt, eh?

12 posted on 09/23/2001 4:12:15 PM PDT by veronica
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To: Samaritan
I guess I'm a moron.
14 posted on 09/23/2001 4:12:52 PM PDT by FiddlePig
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To: Samaritan
The gulf states PAY blackmail.

I'm sorry to ruin your ideal of idealistic terrorists, but they are just criminals, and they make their money like all criminals do.

15 posted on 09/23/2001 4:14:23 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Samaritan
I didn't write it! Something in this article stick in your craw? ((((-:

And ALL the ID's were not forgeries. I know the facts herein bother you. Too bad. The truth shall set you free!

16 posted on 09/23/2001 4:14:40 PM PDT by veronica
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To: Samaritan
The Gulf States have NO history as bullies or extortionists or welfare queens.

Saudi Arabia pays protection money, through some influential business owners, to bin Laden to keep him at bay.

These money trails will be the key links to tying terrorist networks to states.

Saudi Arabia wouldn't mind a bit if Iraq were next. I'd bet they will be.

17 posted on 09/23/2001 4:19:16 PM PDT by sinkspur
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Arab Nations Must Do More to Discredit Islamic Extremists

Thomas L. Friedman The New York Times Saturday, September 22, 2001

WASHINGTON

In February 1982 the secular Syrian government of President Hafez Assad faced a mortal threat from Islamic extremists, who sought to topple the Assad regime. How did it respond? President Assad identified the rebellion as emanating from Syria's fourth-largest city - Hama - and he literally leveled it, pounding the fundamentalist neighborhoods with artillery for days. Once the guns fell silent, he plowed up the rubble and bulldozed it flat, into vast parking lots. Amnesty International estimated that 10,000 to 25,000 Syrians, mostly civilians, were killed in the merciless crackdown. Syria has not had a Muslim extremist problem since.

I visited Hama a few months after it was leveled. The regime actually wanted Syrians to go see it, to contemplate Hama's silence and to reflect on its meaning. I wrote afterward, "The whole town looked as though a tornado had swept back and forth over it for a week - but this was not the work of mother nature." This was "Hama Rules" - the real rules of Middle East politics - and Hama Rules are no rules at all. I tell this story not to suggest this should be America's approach. The United States can't go around leveling cities. It needs to be much more focused and smart in uprooting the terrorists. No, I tell this story because it's important to understand that Syria, Egypt, Algeria and Tunisia have all faced Islamist threats and crushed them without mercy or Miranda rights. Part of the problem America now faces is actually the fallout from these crackdowns. Three things happened: First, once the fundamentalists were crushed by the Arab states they fled to the last wild, uncontrolled places in the region - Lebanon's Bekaa Valley and Afghanistan - or to the freedom of America and Europe.

Second, some Arab regimes, most of which are corrupt dictatorships afraid of their own people, made a devil's pact with the fundamentalists. They allowed the Islamists' domestic supporters to continue raising money, ostensibly for Muslim welfare groups, and to funnel it to the Osama bin Ladens - on the condition that the Islamic extremists not attack these regimes. The Saudis in particular struck that bargain. Third, these Arab regimes, feeling defensive about their Islamic crackdowns, allowed their own press and intellectuals total freedom to attack America and Israel, as a way of deflecting criticism from themselves.

As a result, a generation of Muslims and Arabs have been raised on such distorted views of America that despite the fact that America gives Egypt $2 billion a year, despite the fact that America fought for the freedom of Muslims in Kuwait, Bosnia and Kosovo, and despite the fact that Bill Clinton met with Yasser Arafat more than with any other foreign leader, America has been vilified as the biggest enemy of Islam. And that is one reason that many people in the Arab-Muslim world today have either applauded the attack on America or will tell you - with a straight face - that it was all a CIA-Mossad plot to embarrass the Muslim world.

The United States needs the moderate Arab states as partners. But it needs them to be intelligent. I don't expect them to order their press to say nice things about America or Israel. They are entitled to their views on both, and both at times deserve criticism. But what they have never encouraged at all is for anyone to consistently present an alternative, positive view of America - even though they were sending their kids to the United States to be educated. Anyone who did would be immediately branded a CIA agent. And while the Arab states have crushed their Islamic terrorists, they have never confronted them ideologically and delegitimized their behavior as un-Islamic. Arab and Muslim Americans are not part of this problem. But they could be an important part of the solution by engaging in the debate back in the Arab world, and presenting another vision of America.

So America's standing in the Arab-Muslim world is now very low - partly because the United States has not told its story well, partly because of policies it adopted and partly because inept, barely legitimate Arab leaders have deliberately deflected domestic criticism of themselves onto America. The result: The United States must now fight a war against terrorists who are crazy and evil but who, it grieves me to say, reflect the mood in their home countries more than we might think.

20 posted on 09/23/2001 4:22:30 PM PDT by veronica
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