These two small-time criminals just bumbled into the biggest mistake of their lives.

Accessories before the fact, co-conspirators in felony murder cases: prove they're guilty and it's crispy critter time!

Agreed. Seek the death penalty as a major warning to any criminals who might help our enemies.

I bet they registered to vote at the same time. Get rid of motor voter!

Sounds to me like they were a flea market notary public.Yup,small time fixin to do big time.

You know I told the wife the other day that any reporter could write a story about anyone using factual information and make them sound like charles manson.At my house I have pistols and rifles(weapons stockpiling)100 gallons of gas(bomb materials)a generator(conspiracy theoroist)a fence around my home(compound)four dogs(ferocious animals trained to attack)three calves(food stockpiling)four wheel drive truck(survivalist)DWI (previous record)$1000 in cash(must be doing something illegal)and the list goes on and on.

Here's the whole story just posted:

Two men accused of helping hijackers obtain Virginia driver's

By KAREN GULLO= Associated Press Writer= WASHINGTON (AP) Two men have been charged with helping three of the hijackers in the terrorist attacks fraudulently obtain Virginia driver's licenses last month, prosecutors said Monday.

Meanwhile, the government ordered all airport workers with access to planes and secure areas to submit to new criminal background checks. And crop-dusting planes were grounded for a second day over fears they could be used in an attack.

Regarding the driver's licenses, Herbert Villalobos and another man his identify was not revealed because he is a witness signed identity papers for the hijackers who commandeered and crashed American Airlines flight 77, said an affidavit filed in federal court in northern Virginia.

The affidavit by FBI special agent Brian Weidner said that Villalobos, using the alias Oscar Diaz, signed papers certifying that Abdul Aziz Al Omari, one of the hijacker suspects, lived in Virginia.

A second man, ``a Hispanic male'' who is a confidential witness, signed both a residency certification and an identify affidavit that was used by another suspected hijacker, Ahmed Saleh Al Ghamdi, to obtain a driver's license, the affidavit said.

It said the unidentified man was standing in a parking lot near the Arlington, Va., Department of Motor Vehicles office along with several Hispanic men, including Villalobos, when three Arab men approached him in a van and asked for help in getting Virginia identification cards.

Villalobos and his acquaintances then drove together to an attorney's office nearby with the Arabs following. The papers, which can be used as identification for getting a driver's license, require an attorney's signature.

The forms had already been signed by the attorney, who talked to the men in a foreign language, the affidavit said.

Earlier Monday, Attorney General John Ashcroft said 352 people have now been arrested or detained in the investigation of the Sept. 11 attacks in New York and Washington and another 392 people were being sought for questioning.

Ashcroft said he believed those being held or sought have information about the attacks.

The Federal Aviation Administration ordered airports and airlines to redo criminal checks and scrutinize employment histories for baggage handlers, food service workers and other employees who have access to airliners, ramps, tarmacs and other secure areas. The Coast Guard, meanwhile, began checking the identities of passengers on inbound ships.

``We are requiring revalidation of all airport IDs to make sure that they are genuine, current and belong with the person they are with,'' FAA spokeswoman Rebecca Trexler said.

Investigators are looking at whether box-cutting tools found on two jets may have been planted there by individuals other than passengers who had access to airliners. The hijackers used box-cutters in the hijackings two weeks ago.

The grounding of the nation's crop-dusters, which began Sunday, was extended through Monday. It was the second time that agricultural pilots have been told not to fly since the attacks.

Ashcroft told the House Judiciary Committee that the FBI had gathered information raising fears the small farm planes could be used in a biological or chemical attack. ``There is no clear indication of the time or place of these attacks,'' he said.

Ashcroft said one of the suspected hijackers, Mohamad Atta, had shown interest in crop-dusters and that another person now in federal custody had downloaded information about the planes.

J.D. ``Will'' Lee, 62, general manager of South Florida Crop Care in Belle Glade, said Monday that groups of two or three Middle Eastern men came by almost every weekend for six or eight weeks before the terrorist attacks, including the weekend just before the assaults.

Lee said a co-worker, James Lester, positively identified one of the hijacking suspects, Atta. Atta is believed to be one of the suicide hijackers in the terrorist attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon in Virginia.

In yet another precaution, the Coast Guard said it is requiring that incoming vessels supply local port officials with the identities of crew members and passengers.

``We're working on an interagency basis with the FBI, immigration officials, the U.S. Customs Service and other law enforcement agencies in checking the names we get against their databases in order to ensure national security,'' said a Coast Guard spokesman, Capt. Mike Lapinski. ``We want to identify individuals and cargos that should not get into the United States.''

In other developments: The FBI spent an hour Saturday questioning Khalid al Draibi, who was arrested 13 miles south of Dulles Airport the night after the attacks. A man with the same birthdate and a similar name appears on an FBI list of 21 alleged suspects in the attacks. Attorney Drewry B. Hutcheson Jr. said his client spoke voluntarily without immunity to an agent and was in the Washington area because he wanted to go to the Saudi Embassy, ``probably for financial help.''

A San Diego Zoo security guard told the FBI she recalled finding a metal case at the zoo several weeks ago that may have belonged to suspected hijacker Hani Hanjour, zoo spokeswoman Christine Simmons said. The case, which contained identification, some other papers and possibly cash, was claimed from the zoo's lost and found. The zoo kept no record of who claimed it, Simmons said.

In the crash of United Flight 93 in Pennsylvania, the FBI has determined from the on-site investigation that no explosive was involved. Passengers on the flight said in cell phone calls that one of their captors had what appeared to be a bomb strapped to him.

Having endured the rigors and noting the demographics of the clientele of the Tyson's Corner (VA) DMV, this comes as no surprise. I felt like I was in a foreign country every time I "visited" that facility.......

The real crime is the way these middle easterners drive.

Ashcroft said one of the suspected hijackers, Mohamad Atta, had shown interest in crop-dusters and that another person now in federal custody had downloaded information about the planes.

J.D. ``Will'' Lee, 62, general manager of South Florida Crop Care in Belle Glade, said Monday that groups of two or three Middle Eastern men came by almost every weekend for six or eight weeks before the terrorist attacks, including the weekend just before the assaults.

Lee said a co-worker, James Lester, positively identified one of the hijacking suspects, Atta. Atta is believed to be one of the suicide hijackers in the terrorist attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon in Virginia.

Mohamed Atta:

1.Authorities believe he coordinated the attack on WTC. Worked out of Hamburg, Germany cell with Ramzi Mohamed Abdullah Binalshibh,Said Bahaji, Marwan Al-Shehhi, and Ziad Jarrahi, who was a regular vistitor to Atta's Hamburg apartment. Marwan Al-Shehhi was possibly an Atta cousin who shared rooms with him in Hamburg and Florida here

2.This article has him checking out crop dusters in Florida for 6 or 8 weekends. Maybe he stayed with his cousin.

3.There were five known highjackers on American Airlines flight 11: Atta (who flew it into the north tower of the WTC, Abdulaziz Alomari, and three others. The other 3 drove to Logan Airport to make AA#11, but Atta and Alomari arrived in Boston the previous Sunday, then drove back to Portland, and then flew to Boston. The moves baffle authorities, not only because they almost caused at least Atta, the suspected leader, to miss his flight, but because they exposed Alomari and him to additional airport security checks. here

4.Atta was suspected of having been a member of Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ). here

5.Abdulaziz Alomari, also believed to be a trained pilot, reportedly met in Europe with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer. here

I'm thinking that maybe Atta, after arranging for the crop dusting training for others in the cell in Florida, met with Alomari (who may have obtained the "substance" from the Iraqi officer). Knowing they were going to die, they had to deliver whatever "it" is to Portland, Ma. before they went to Logan to highjack American Airline 11.

The radio report in Richmond on this said that as a result, Va. will no longer accept a signed affadavit when applying for a D.L. Since 1994, this was allowed for people who, for "legitinate" reasons (i.e. illegal aliens, terrorists) had no form of ID. Motor Voter in action!

Good news!

For years the No. Virginia DMV's have been a veritable social club for the foreign visitors of every status. A few years back a ring of employees at the Arlington DMV was just outright selling licenses to illegals. Since the predominent language in these places is anything but english and the whole atmosphere that of a carnival where prizes are being given away, the county moved decisively to hire more spanish speaking employees. I heard the situation improved recently or maybe is just quicker.

I'm thinking that maybe Atta, after arranging for the crop dusting training for others in the cell in Florida, met with Alomari (who may have obtained the "substance" from the Iraqi officer). Knowing they were going to die, they had to deliver whatever "it" is to Portland, Ma. before they went to Logan to highjack American Airline 11.

I probably missed it, but remind me again how we know for certain that Atta was on the plane. Paper trail? The same type of paper trail that ended up being wrong on some of the other terrorist pilots? (If you'll recall, some of the other people whose names were on that original list of 19 showed up in other countries, alive and well, claiming they'd had their passports stolen.)

How do we know Atta isn't still alive and coordinating their activities? It wouldn't be too hard to have left the appropriate paper trail and then put someone on that plane that just looked like him.

How do we know Atta isn't still alive and coordinating their activities? It wouldn't be too hard to have left the appropriate paper trail and then put someone on that plane that just looked like him.

You raise a valid point, Nita. This thing was so beyond the pale, that I never even considered the FBI, or others supposedly on our side, could be lieing or jumping to wrong conclusions. Utterly stupid in view of past history.

If the report of these two guys risking the first mission to get to Maine first is true, then there had to a substantial overriding reason to take the risk. While I'm sure the FBI must be looking in every state for a stockpile of WMDs, perhaps they should be checking with plastic surgeons in Maine and surrounding states too.