Posted on 09/26/2001 10:53:01 PM PDT by Pericles
September 27, 2001
THE ALLIANCE
U.S. Says Military Strikes Are Just a Part of Big Plan
By JAMES DAO with PATRICK E. TYLER
BRUSSELS, Sept. 26 Facing some skepticism from NATO allies over going to war to eradicate terrorism, the Bush administration said today that military operations would not be the "primary piece" of its campaign.
At a meeting of NATO defense ministers that offered the administration a first opportunity to convey detailed plans to the alliance, some European states pressed for, but did not get, a detailed showing of evidence that would justify any attack on Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda network in Afghanistan.
Rudolf Scharping, the German defense minister, said he had expected Paul D. Wolfowitz, the deputy defense secretary, to arrive with a "white paper" spelling out the evidence connecting terrorist acts to Al Qaeda.
But administration officials are still debating how much information to make public since much of it rests on secret communications intercepts. The allies had been led to expect more by Secretary of State Colin L. Powell's statement last Sunday that the government would "put before the world, the American people, a persuasive case." [Page B4.]
After the Sept. 11 attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, NATO invoked for the first time an article of its founding treaty that says an attack on one member will be considered an attack on all. A sustained alliance military campaign against terrorism seemed possible, but today Mr. Wolfowitz said: "If we need collective action, we will ask for it. We don't anticipate that for the moment."
Before the NATO meeting, a senior Pentagon official told reporters that the United States would ask the alliance for logistical, intelligence and other support, but "the military piece is not the primary piece."
Some American military planners expressed private frustration today about the unattractive array of military options in war-torn Afghanistan, where destitute refugees were reported to be in flight toward the sealed borders of Iran and Pakistan.
As a result, the Bush administration was being forced to broaden the scope of its planning for a possible humanitarian disaster while also lowering somewhat expectations for a major military campaign, officials said. Expectations had been raised by a steady buildup of American troops and aircraft in the Persian Gulf and elsewhere.
"The people of Afghanistan are already beginning to suffer the humanitarian consequences from this just in anticipation of events," a senior Pentagon official said, referring to possible military strikes against Mr. bin Laden's network.
Russia has helped decisively in preparations for any military action in Afghanistan and today it was rewarded. The United States, in a clear shift, stated for the first time that the Al Qaeda network played a role in inciting the bloody rebellion in the Russian territory of Chechnya, where the Russian Army has been accused of using indiscriminate force against civilians and committing numerous human rights abuses in putting down the revolt.
Mr. Wolfowitz provided an overview of the administration's case against Mr. bin Laden, but did not go into detail, officials said.
In public remarks, Mr. Wolfowitz said the "evidence is there for the whole world to see."
"Many of the people in this room watched it live on television," he said, referring the images of aircraft crashing into the World Trade Center. "There is no question that the Al Qaeda organization has been convicted in courts of law for acts of terrorism, including the bombing of our embassies in East Africa."
The desire of some ministers for more evidence caused tension, but in the end there was at least public backing from the allies for the administration's antiterror campaign.
Still, as Mr. Wolfowitz explained that the United States would seek different kinds of help from NATO states, some worried that the American approach could lead to a wider war. "Most people in Europe would like to see that only the ones who are found guilty are hunted down and penalized," one NATO official said.
The NATO secretary general, Lord Robertson, questioned whether it was even necessary for "an ally to produce evidence."
Even as administration officials voiced confidence that Mr. bin Laden was guilty, they seemed less sure that he could be brought to justice simply by military strikes.
"The diplomatic instrument with the intelligence instrument with the military instrument," a senior administration official said, "are much more effective than any one of them individually." It is important to understand, the official emphasized, "that if we take military action, one of the major objectives of that action will be to get more information; there is nothing more important in this war than information."
Administration officials said today that they were urgently trying to marshal food aid for the Afghan people.Just a week ago, White House officials were opposed to efforts to send more aid, saying it would fall into the hands of Taliban fighters.
The International Monetary Fund today approved a $135 million loan installment for Pakistan in a sign that economic policy was being used to shore up critical allies.
The shift in the administration's Russia policy was first announced at the White House, when Mr. Bush's spokesman, Ari Fleischer, delivered a strong expression of gratitude and support to the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin, for aligning Russia with the United States against terrorism. In doing so, another senior Bush administration official said, "We know that Al Qaeda has exploited the war in Chechnya, may have even helped to provoke it."
These remarks showed how much importance the Bush administration attached to Mr. Putin's identification with the Western cause. Russia agreed to open air corridors and played a decisive role in persuading Central Asian states to open bases for military and relief operations on Afghanistan's northern flank.
Mr. Fleischer's remarks were a sharp reversal of Mr. Bush's tone on Chechnya. During the presidential campaign, Mr. Bush said that international financing for Russia should be cut off because of Mr. Putin's crackdown in Chechnya. "This guy, Putin, who is now the temporary president, has come to power as a result of Chechnya," Mr. Bush said in a television interview in February 2000. Mr. Putin dealt with Chechnya in a way "that's not acceptable to peaceful nations," he said.
At a meeting with Muslim leaders today, Mr. Bush stopped short of Mr. Fleischer's comments, saying that Mr. Putin should "deal with the Chechnya minority in his country with respect" for human rights.
"I would hope that the Russian president while dealing with the Al Qaeda organization also respects minority rights within his country."
During the presidential campaign, Mr. Bush said that international financing for Russia should be cut off because of Mr. Putin's crackdown in Chechnya. "This guy, Putin, who is now the temporary president, has come to power as a result of Chechnya," Mr. Bush said in a television interview in February 2000. Mr. Putin dealt with Chechnya in a way "that's not acceptable to peaceful nations," he said.
to Mr. Bush's spokesman, Ari Fleischer, delivered a strong expression of gratitude and support to the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin, for aligning Russia with the United States against terrorism. In doing so, another senior Bush administration official said, "We know that Al Qaeda has exploited the war in Chechnya, may have even helped to provoke it."
And it only took the destruction of 7,000 souls (with more to die soon as combat takes place), half of downtown Manhattan, the Pentagon, 4 jeliners, and a ruined economic recovery.
Better late than never!
Actually, I think the change of heart accured when GW visited Putin and was able to "look in his eyes" and see his "soul".
Doesnt mean anything has really changed except we will close one eye for a while soon as the current threat has been eliminated we will go back into the old mode again.
As for Afghanistan and Chechnya maybe they would not have ended up so f****d up and perfect breeding grounds for the sons of jihad if it wasnt for the unifying factor in the brutal way the Soviets and Russians fought there war's, going for the civilian population instead of the terrorists.
Tony
As for Afghanistan, we all know what models of civility the Afghan people represent. Being British yourself Tony you can probably recall the famous Afghan hospitality your people encountered in the last 3 wars your nation fought there.
It is easy to sit back in the West and go tut tut about other people behaviour, but right up to the 80s there was a brutal crack down on any what we used to call freedom movements by the MVD and other Para military organisations, including the KGB Border troops.
As for the famous Afghan hospitality to tell you the truth I dont think we should of been there in the first place.
None of our hands are clean, both the Americans with the infamous School Of America training program for south American dictatorships, and the old KGB and GRU terrorist training schools.
Like I said before we fought the cold war all over this planet, we both backed corrupt dictatorships who brutalised there own people in the name of capitalism or communism.
You know this Pericles, I know you are an intelligent guy who knows a hell of a lot of whats going on and what has gone on.
Yes there are Islamic militants in Chechnya, and in Bosnia and in Kosovo, just like the old CIA and KGB this lot also turns up to exploit local misery.
I no more believe that all the KLA all the Chechens and Bosnians who are fighting or fought in a number of wars are all fully paid up members of jihad that I believe that the American government is bought and paid for by the Zionist, or that all insurgents are completely CIA owned and trained. Or that the IRA was a tool of the GRU or KGB
This war we are fighting know if we are to win must be fought as a proper COIN operation and that includes a heart and minds operation.
I do not subscribe to the only good gook is a dead gook, and I dont believe you do either, but there are enough around who lap up these threads as it helps them to keep to the narrow view point they have defined for them selfs.
Tony
BTTTTTTTTTTTT.'Bout time! Now what about KLA-NLA?
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