I am delighted that this lady gets it. Someone wake up the feminists in France and in the States.

Best Regards, Ivan

Today is Trinity Sunday. Centuries ago words were written to be a call and a spur to the faithful servants of Truth and Justice: "Arm yourselves, and be ye men of valour, and be in readiness for the conflict; for it is better for us to perish in battle than to look upon the outrage of our nation and our altar. As the Will of God is in Heaven, even so let it be." - Winston Churchill, 1940

This then, my lords and gentlemen, is the message which we send forth today to all states and nations, bound or free, to all the men in all the lands who care for freedom's cause. To our Allies and well-wishers in Europe, to our American friends and helpers drawing ever closer in their might across the ocean, this is the message-lift up your hearts, all will come right. Out of depths of sorrow and sacrifice will be born again the glory of mankind. - Winston Churchill, 1941

LET US GO FORWARD TOGETHER

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"I am delighted that this lady gets it.
Someone wake up the feminists in France and in the States."

When do you think N.O.W. and all the other hardcore women's rights fanatics
are going to start demanding equal treatment for women,
like women being drafted also like they are in Israel and many other countries?
And where are all those who DEMAND that women be put in combat units
demanding that women HAVE to register for the Selective Service on their 18th birthday like men do?
We have many brave and outstanding women in the
armed services, in police departments, in fire houses, in the FBI, CIA, in politics, etc.
But I still do not see any protest of equal treatment when it comes to ALL Americans
being required to register with the Selective Service on their 18th birthday.

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Here's to women warriors!

We may only be 42%, Ivan, but we're a fierce 42%! Not all of us are sissies.

Howdy Ivan. Femionists won't stick up for the women in Afghanistan because supporting terrorist regimes is part of the leftists hate-america agenda, of which these feminists belong.

"but we're a fierce 42%"

Lady FReepers get a MUCH higher rating in the "fierce department"!

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A Gallup poll for this newspaper confirms that women are more nervous about this war than men. Only 42 per cent of women would support military action if it resulted in civilian casualties. For men, the figure is 53 per cent. Among women, 69 per cent say they are "very worried" that their families could become victims of terrorist attacks. Among men the figure is only 46 per cent.

Haven't these Nimrods figured out we've already taken 7,000 civilian casualties and will take many more if we don't act than if we do?

I once read that the leftist in Britian blamed Chamberlain for drawing the line at Poland and declaring war. Then when Russia invaded the eastern half, occupied the Baltic States and picked a fight with Finland, they all cooed that boundries were just being arranged like they were before World War I. Some finally awoke when Hitler stormed through France and Chamberlain gave way to Churchill. Others continued to delude themselves until the blitz started.

I've got every confidence your men in the SAS and our elite units will take care of the enemy on the ground in Afghanistan. I'm less sure about who will take care of our 5th columnists hiding in the univerities, government and media.</font face>

I can happily report that I was considered a very 'strange' child because I preferred to study battle tactics at Salamis to playing with stupid dolls. My parents were considered strange for encouraging me...lol

Robert Harris wrote on these pages about how men of his generation have been waiting for this moment to see whether they are as brave as their fathers once were. Daughters don't feel that way.

Hell yeah we do, bring it on!!! I'd better brush up on my target practice :)

How about Boudicea, Grace O'Malley and Elizabeth 1, for examples of righteous butt-kicking, death-defying, name-taking women who would be the first ones to take a scourge to this generation of hypocritical 'feminists' who obviously hate America more than they love their putative cause of women's rights?

WOMEN are all wimps. Look at Clare Short: she's the only Cabinet minister to say we can't have "lots of planes, guns and ships". In America, Barbara Lee was the one member of Congress out of 535 to vote against handing President Bush unconditional power to take military action.

We've hardly seen Condoleezza Rice

From what I understand, Condi is NOT A WIMP. She takes strong positions and sticks to them, she's physically stood down heads of state before...

I say send the 'feminists' to Afghanistan to explain nicely to the Talibscum how to treat women properly. In the mean time arm the Afhgan women instead of the commie scum Northen Alliance and let those Pathan women warriors vent their spleen a little.

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Look at Clare Short: she's the only Cabinet minister to say we can't have "lots of planes, guns and ships".

I'd rather not have to look at her.

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Here's a link to the story about Jodie Jones (click the pic)

Only just turned 17 and serving on HMS Illustrious. Had the chance to go home, but decided to stay! Brave girl.

"...admonish the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discreet, chaste, homemakers, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the Word of God may not be blasphemed." ~Titus 2:4-5

I have a number of thoughts on the issue of women in combat, the original article, and the sentiments each of you put forth in response to it - the Scripture passage above being only the first wisdom that came to me as I read what is posted here.

I do not believe that women should fight side-by-side with men in a national war, especially overseas. I believe that each gender would be distracted by the other and thus weakened. Training of mind and body would be hampered, as well as concentration on the objective in battle. Having said this, I do not believe it inappropriate for a woman to be trained for battle, to practice with firearms, or to understand military strategy. I myself am trained in the use of various firearms, and am confident I would use them in any conflict where my own or another's preservation of life and liberty were called for.

Should America be called to fight a battle on her own land, especially close to my home, I would fight together with neighbors and friends to defend my state, my town, my home, or the home of a neighbor. If I were married I would go into battle next to or behind my husband with confidence and focus - his objective would be mine. As it is I am single, and so I would follow with unwavering obedience the direction of my father, who is in direct authority over me. The sort of battle I have in mind here would be something along the lines of what happened at Ruby Ridge, or what took place on the four hijacked American planes on 9-11.

Joining a fighting unit of mixed males and females, and going overseas, being stationed in close quarters on board ship or on base for an extended period of time does not seem wise to this woman. I believe women are far more capable in under-cover work! The enemies of Israel knew this, and used foreign women to distract and weaken the men of Israel so that the land could be overcome. Samson was defeated not by his enemies, but by his love for Delilah.

Saying that "a woman's place is in the home" is not at all the same as saying that a woman is inferior to a man. On the contrary, it requires great resolve, self-control, discipline, and trust for a wife to remain at home while her husband goes off to war. He is called to an active bravery, and often the action is the blessed distraction to his more tender emotions...he has no time to dwell on his thoughts of home, hearth, and heart's desire, but *must* be disciplined in his thinking, and is trained for such before ever entering battle. Boot camp is designed to ensure that the man focus on the objective, the commander and obedience to his orders, and killing as many members of the enemy force with as few casualties to his own as possible.

The woman who remains at home when a nation is called to war is given no such training. She is forced, rather, to become in an instant a paragon of resolve, prayer, discipline, and sacrifice. I believe this calls for the highest form of bravery, an unyeilding courage, and fearless self-denial.

All of this is my firm conviction, my personal resolve, and my potential calling. May God in Christ prepare me for what He has prepared for me. May He bless with strength in body and mind all our men called out to battle, and may He be the anchor, guide, and stay that keeps the wives, mothers, sisters and daughters unwavering in their devotion and diligence at home. Amen.

I agree with everyting you said in your well thought post.
The ONLY point I was making was that for decades the hard core "women" rights groups like N.O.W. have been screaming about and demanding that women MUST be treated the same way as men in everything.
But yet know they seem to have lost their lust for the equality they think they do not have.
May God Bless you and your family and keep them safe.

Thank you, Patriot and Brother. FReegards and dittoes.

Good article. But I do know some women who are very tough and would, in defending their homes or cubs, shoot first and ask questions later.

A thought provoking and interesting post.

Personally, I'm in two minds about women in the Armed Forces.

If a woman is very patriotic and really wants to serve her country, it seems fair to let her do so, IF (and here's the big thing) she can face the physical challenge.

In the Navy, that's not such a big thing, especially if she's serving in a capacity which involves electronics etc rather than heavy lifting. IIRC, the Army recently issued a blunt statement that women aren't really up to front-line combat, not having the physical strength, so they wouldn't be deployed in that role, which is fair enough.

Per Adua Ad Astra, Ivan!

I am hoping the military calls NOW and the womyn's womyn to the front lines in afghanistan...

I think the taliban would deal with them a whole lot better than we ever could...

furthermore, NOW would never dare to act up in that country as they act up here...

Thanks for the bump, Ivan. Excellent post.

Don't be fooled, most women here in the states are on the right side, the N.O.W. nags are a very small percentage...

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When do you think N.O.W. and all the other hardcore women's rights fanatics are going to start demanding equal treatment for women, like women being drafted also like they are in Israel and many other countries? And where are all those who DEMAND that women be put in combat units demanding that women HAVE to register for the Selective Service on their 18th birthday like men do? We have many brave and outstanding women in the armed services, in police departments, in fire houses, in the FBI, CIA, in politics, etc. But I still do not see any protest of equal treatment when it comes to ALL Americans being required to register with the Selective Service on their 18th birthday.

Amen!

I've been wanting someone to ask this question in a presidential debate for years. I'd love to have seen Al Gore handle this one.

Add another woman who BELIEVES we HAVE to win this war! We have to BECAUSE we love our children and families and our country. Some of us women realize that to be free and live the lifestyles we so enjoy (compared to say, Afgahny women) we must rally behind our President, VOTE, and strongly support our military.

It makes me upset everytime I read posts in here against women because I worked harder promoting President Bush than any man in my family during the election, and I am still much more involved in politics as well. I also spend time trying to help my female friends see the big picture--not the one Oprah or katie and matt want them to see.

Please don't forget the 42% of us women here that ARE your sisters in battle.

Very well said. Men and women ARE different and have different roles.

Askel5, I thought you might find this article of interest.

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Good post, .30. I believe that being a warrior is far more than shooting and getting shot at. Your thoughts and wndycndy's thoughts reflect exactly what I had in mind. Men don't go into battle alone. They take the thoughts, prayers and attitudes of their loved ones at home with them. Especially those of the women in their lives. The strength of a nation, particularly in times of war, is a measure of the spirit of all its citizens.

The warriorship of women is seldom seen on the evening news but makes itself felt in the mailbags that follow soldiers and the letters to the editor.

Dittos from me to you, .30. Great post!

Been there. #4. Thought of you, too. By the way, the Taliban called for you. Are you free tomorrow to discuss a woman's proper place?

Women from Afghanistan hardly need the porn, lesbian and partial-birth abortion crowd that constitutes our lewinskyed "feminists" to "liberate" them. Women from Afghanistan are among the fiercest warriors of the world, along with the Vietnamese and the Erithrean. "MadIvan" is not saying that Afghani women participated in the three wars the British lost overthere. That they were the ones to finish off the British and the Russians left wounded on the battlefields.

British women warriors could however help clean-up the City where most of the terrorist money grows, London itself where terrorists are trained under understanding eye of the Bobbies (as reported by Scotland Yard yesterday in American newspapers), where that Blair clintonian piece of puke has systematically refused to extradite known mid-east murderers and where the "unusual movements of stocks" prior to the attacks came from, giving a brand new meaning to the "special relationship"

Go ahead O British Women!!!It's vacuum-cleaner time!

Eph 5:22 Wives submit to your own husbands as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as the Lord is the head of the church. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.

1Tim 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1Cor11: 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. Every man praying or prophesying, having is head covered, dishonoureth his head. But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoreth her head:

Does any of this sound the least bit familiar?

Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher to President George Herbert Walker Bush, August 1990:-

"George, this is no time to go wobbly."

Rule Britannia and pass the gin and tonic.

Rule Britannia and pass the gin and tonic. ROTFLMAO!!! Pass the gin and tonic while I am selling Britannia!!!Stalin used to tease the heck out of Churchill with his selling the Empire away just to see the Fat Drunk go into hysterics which he did every time. T'was true though. Now the fearless SAS want women to do the job for them. I mean...That reminds me of a story by Scripps Howard News Service dated last sepember 6 (by Lisa Hoffman) titled "The importance of lipstick to Marines". It was all about women in the US Marines demanding to wear lipstick while dressing in camouflage. (also reported in the Marine Corps Times around that time). Color of lipstick was also at issue. That leaves, the article said, the question of "earrings, purses and umbrellas". This is not a joke. I could use a shot of that special relationship right now, or is it clintonian moonshine?

Me thinks you have been blowing too hard into your chanter, Pipers.

HaHaHa! You know how it is!

Yep, sounds like Paul in KJV. The voting part is where?

"Do not let us speak of darker days; let us speak rather of sterner days. These are not dark days; these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived; and we must all thank God that we have been allowed, each of us according to our stations, to play a part in making these days memorable in the history of our race." ~Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (1874-1965)

This is on my page-a-day calendar today. It seemed apropos of this thread.

When do you think N.O.W. and all the other hardcore women's rights fanatics are going to start demanding equal treatment for women, like women being drafted also like they are in Israel and many other countries?

Eh, I wouldn't hold your breath on that one. The NOW's are running and hiding. Self-preservation is their game, nothing else. Equal rights, as far as they are concerned, ended 9/11.