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Few pacifists would accept logical outcome of their stance
Seattle Times ^ | 10/3/01 | Michael Kelly

Posted on 10/03/2001 8:27:24 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

Last week, I argued that those Americans who preached pacifism in response to the attacks of Sept. 11 were (borrowing from George Orwell) objectively pro-terrorist, objectively in favor of letting the masters of this attack escape to live and to commit more mass murders of Americans.

This upset some people. One Pennsylvania man issued what in pacifist circles must constitute a violent threat: "You may expect a series of letters from me and other folks in this regard, until such time as you deem it appropriate to issue a complete retraction of, and unqualified apology for, your comments." Please, not the dread Series of Letters.

Let me see if I may cause further upset. Two propositions: The first is that much of what is passing for pacifism in this instance is not pacifism at all but only the latest tedious manifestation of a well-known pre-existing condition — the largely reactionary, largely incoherent, largely silly muddle of anti-American, anti-corporatist, anti-globalist sentiments that passes for the politics of the left these days. The second is that, again in this instance, the anti-war sentiment (to employ a term that encompasses both genuine pacifism and an opposition to war rooted in America-hatred) is intellectually dishonest, elitist and hypocritical.

That the anti-war sentiment is in general only a manifestation of the larger anomie of the reactionary left is clear. The first large anti-war demonstration was held last weekend in Washington and the most obvious fact about it was that this protest against war was planned before there was ever any thought of war. It had been intended as just another in the series of protests against globalism that have been serving as a sort of kvetch basin for all sorts of unhappy people who like to yell about the awfulness of "Amerika" or international corporations or rich people or people who drive large cars or drug companies that test their products on bunny rabbits or life its own unfair self.

When the terrorists murdered more than 6,000 people and the president said that America was going to do something commensurate about this, the organizers of the Washington protest realized they had found a fresh complaint and a fresh cause. They thought up a few new instantly tired slogans ("Resist Racist War") and printed up a few new posters and — presto-changeo — thus was born an anti-war movement. Or something.

As to the second proposition, Osama bin Laden has told us by word and action that he sees himself and his cohort as engaged in a total war against the United States and that this war is one not just of nations but of cultures: Holy Islam vs. a corrupt imperialist America. He has promised further attacks such as Sept. 11 unless the United States sues for peace under impossible terms, the abandonment of Israel being only one. In short, Osama bin Laden wishes to defeat the United States. So do others; for instance, Saddam Hussein.

Do the pacifists wish to live in a United States that has been defeated by Osama bin Laden or Saddam Hussein? Do they wish to live in a United States that has been defeated by any foreign force? Do they wish to live under an occupying power? Do they wish to live under, say, the laws of the Taliban or the Baath Party of Iraq?

These questions, you may say, rest on an absurd premise: Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein cannot ever hope to defeat and occupy the United States. Yes, but that is true only because the United States maintains and employs an armed force sufficient to defeat those who would defeat it. If the United States did as the pacifists wish — if it eschewed war even when attacked — it would, at some point, be conquered by a foreign regime. What stops this from happening is that the government and generally the people of the United States do not heed the wishes of the pacifists.

The anti-warriors must know that their position is a luxury made affordable only by the sure bet that no one in authority will ever accede to their position. The marchers and shouters and flag-burners in Washington pretended to the argument that war should not be waged. What they really mean is that war should not be waged by them. It should be waged by other mothers' sons and daughters.

How many pacifists would be willing to accept the logical outcome of their creed of nonviolence even in face of attack — life as a conquered people? Not many, I would think. How many want the (mostly lower-class) men and women of the United States armed forces to continue to fight so that they may enjoy the luxury of preaching against fighting? Nearly all, I would think.

Liars. Frauds. Hypocrites. Strong letters, no doubt, to follow.


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1 posted on 10/03/2001 8:27:24 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
Hm. The Seattle Times.

Who would have thunk it?

2 posted on 10/03/2001 8:30:53 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Actually, Kelly is a syndicated Post writer (see how I get around the prohibition against posting from the WASHPOST??). But your right, it's unusual for my hometown rag to print such things!
3 posted on 10/03/2001 8:37:56 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
Ya. That's what I was thinking. I'm surprised they printed this. I stopped reading the PI and the Times several years ago because I was sick of their crap.
4 posted on 10/03/2001 8:41:41 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: anniegetyourgun
The anti-warriors must know that their position is a luxury made affordable only by the sure bet that no one in authority will ever accede to their position.

EXACTLY! Most are too stupid to understand that the only reason they can prance around with their little peace signs is because they have neighbors ready and willing to shoot anyone who would come along and stop them. Hypocrites indeed.

5 posted on 10/03/2001 8:55:24 AM PDT by workerbee
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Kelly is a syndicated columnist, not a Times staffer. But even if he were, the Times is liberal, not pacifist, so the substance of his views, if not his manner of expressing them, would not be a surprise.
6 posted on 10/03/2001 9:01:02 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: anniegetyourgun
Bump, bump, and triple bump.
7 posted on 10/03/2001 9:28:03 AM PDT by Some hope remaining.
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Gee, a lot of good our pacifism did after the attack on the USS Cole, huh? Our lack of relatiation got 7000 of our citizens killed. Sure....let's do nothing again. It worked so well before.
8 posted on 10/03/2001 9:35:08 AM PDT by Puppage
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To: anniegetyourgun
To have even a shred of intellectual and moral credibility, pacificists must be willing to interpose themselves between agressor and victim in an attempt to stop the violence and save innocent lives, even at the cost of their own lives. Anything less than this suggests to me that they are nothing more than lying, hypocritical, seditious cowards.

There were men from the Quaker and Menonite churches who volunteered for medic duty during our past wars. I consider this to be an acceptable and honorable example of this principle in action. But this is the ONLY example I can think of where so-called "pacificists" have actually implemented this principle. NONE of the loud-mouthed, seditious leftists marching in the streets these days even come close. They are frauds and public enemies. If our political leadership had the wisdom and guts to adopt a formal declaration of war, then these people could and should be thrown in prison for the duration.

9 posted on 10/03/2001 10:09:48 AM PDT by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: anniegetyourgun
I've GOT to bump this! :-)

Great essay. Thanks for posting it!

10 posted on 10/03/2001 10:15:24 AM PDT by realpatriot71
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