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Has a Nuclear Device Already been Smuggled into U.S. by Bin Laden Supporters?
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Posted on 10/4/2001, 1:46:28 PM by justme346

Bush Country is providing this information because there has been little if not any information about it in the major media outlets. Dr. Robert Morey is one of the most knowledgeable people in the world as it relates to the Islamic faith.

This information shows just how close we may be to Christ second coming. Remember, Christians will not feel God's wrath but will be called by Christ and in that twinkling of an eye, be with him (Thessalonians 4:13-18) This is why Christians need to be ready for Christ return (Mark 13: 32-37)

The following is the transcripts of a recent interview on the Prophecy Today Radio program between Jimmy DeYoung and Dr. Robert Morey:

J: Dr. Robert Morey is the author of some forty books, he is the head of Faith Defenders out of California, and he is a man who is most knowledgeable about the Islamic faith. I say that because of his background. As a professor he had to have educational background to be able to teach, and thus Dr. Morey you actually have two earned doctor’s degrees?

M: Yes I do. One from Westminster Seminary deals with the apologetics, the defense of the faith, and one from Faith Theological Seminary on Islamic Studies.

J: Well that gives you the background to be able to respond to some of our questions. The most knowledgeable man that I know on the Islamic faith, I have the book entitled, The Islamic Invasion which has been almost a Bible to me as I had come to understand the situation here in America. But living in Jerusalem as I do, I have made contact with the Islamic world as well. I want to ask you though as it relates to the horrific attack that took place just this last Tuesday in New York City and Washington D.C. Does this have the earmarks of an activity of the Islamic fundamentalist terrorist community, as you know it?

M: Yes, it does. As a matter of fact the week before this happened I was on with my friend Warren Guffy KKLA out of Los Angeles, and I warned the public that Bin Laden was up to something and my contacts were confirming to me that the Muslims had hunkered down and were quiet. I was able to predict the first time that the World Trade building was attacked, and I had the ignoble infamy of being the first one on national radio to put the finger on Bin Laden for which then the FBI had come to me for counseling in terms of terrorism.

J: You know when I first started viewing everything that was going on on the national television networks and the cable systems, the first word out of my mouth was Bin Laden, I thought that as well. I don’t believe we have absolute evidence that he is the one, but you say it looks exactly like what he would do or one of his people in his organization?

M: Well, you have several things that must be in place. Number one there must be the will to destroy the lives and properties of Americans in particular on a mass scale that would have some kind of horrific publicity. Number two you have to have the means of millions of dollars to train Arabs to pilot these planes, to put ground crew in place that can go on board and leave weapons so they don’t have to worry about metal detectors. There are so many things, so many expenses involved, you have to have millions. And number three you’ve got to have the networks and Bin Laden does throughout the world. The program I did for Seven Hundred Club we went up to Dearborn, did you know that is 70% Muslim? Part of the show we went over and filmed the Mosque that is run by the Taliban and the Mullah with the head of terrorism. You know how the Seven Hundred Club is, very nice video tape guys are there, camera men, we’ll take a picture and then we’ve got to jump in the van because they are going to beat us up and take the camera. They said oh, this is America. I said, you aren’t in America here. We took the picture, and they began to run across the street at us, and we had to get in the van and burn rubber. I used to have on my sight all the various terrorists groups who run them, where they get their money; Bin Laden is the one who bank rolls everybody. He bank rolled the first time they World Trade Center was done and he was behind the shooting down of a helicopter in Somalia, the blowing up of apartment houses there in Lebanon and in Saudi Arabia, our embassy right down the line. We know exactly what he is doing; there will be no proof because he always does it through surrogate. And in the last thing you need besides you have to have the will to do this, and that is a mentally ill person, and that is Bin Laden. You’ve got to have the means, you’ve got to have the support network, and then fourthly you have to have the opportunity and he did because under Clinton and other liberal Democratic regimes, they destroyed the CIA network in the Middle East, they closed its offices, we are completely blind as to what the terrorists are doing.

J: How wide spread is this community of Bin Laden and all of his compatriots?

M: You are talking a loose coalition of nearly every single terrorist group we know. The Brotherhood in Egypt, the other ones that were run out of Sudan, he has a manual of a thousand pages. How to produce bombs that blow up airlines. Here in the United States alone, I don’t know if you happened to catch it by Steve Emerson on PBS of all places, a documentary film called American Jihad, there are ten thousand terrorist cells in the United States, most of them located in mosques in Islamic centers, they are raising millions of dollars to keep the terrorists afloat.

J: What about the statement, "Islam is a peaceful religion," is that totally wrong?

M: I have many many debates I have debated all of the great leaders of Islam in universities around the world, and if your listeners are interested in this kind of stuff they just need to call 1-800-41-truth and we will send them out the list of all that stuff. What you have is very simply this: Mohammed, in terms of his teaching it sound in the Hadise. The Hadise is 9 volumes, 6,000 pages and the most prominent edition is by a man by the name of Albu Hardi. It is called ? And that this is the teaching of Mohammed about the Koran. The Koran itself is built on the Hadise. So, you have the Koran which is 114 ? which supposedly dropped out of the sky on a stone tablet and we are told Mohammed didn’t write it, had nothing to do with it, it was written by Allah. But the Hadise is Mohammed’s teaching, and in the Hadise he says Allah hath commanded me to fight against the Christians, the Jews, and the pagans until they submit to Islam or be killed.

J: So indeed they are to be aggressive. I was listening to an interview by one of the network commentators the other day; he was having an interview with Tom Clancy, the famous novelist. Tom Clancy made the statement that suicide sends a Moslem to hell, it is against the religious law of Islam to commit suicide. What about that?

M: Well, I was looking for something to throw at the television. I saw that interview as well. I like Tom Clancy novels, but the man is an idiot, he doesn’t know anything about Islam. …… I deal with the Nation of Islam by the way there are seven of those. Farrakhan is only one of seven nations, they are very violent prone, as you can see by the assassination of Malcolm X etc. And the Orthodox Muslims are just as violent prone, and it is a clear teaching of the Koran and the Hadise, and the Muslim authorities that Jihad not only means not drinking alcohol and eating pork but it means killing people and destroying property in the name of Allah to force them to convert to Islam. I put this in a booklet entitled "The Jihad According To The Koran And Hadise," a matter of fact the FBI ordered that for some of their training seminars. I have dealing with Islam and Muslims for twenty years, I have been warning the Church that they better wake up, either we reach out in love and evangelize the Muslims in our community or they are going to blow us up one day.

J: Tell me about the mind set of a suicide bomber or in this particular case, a suicide pilot.

M: He has been promised by his prophet Mohammed and by Muslim authorities that anyone who commits suicide or dies while killing non-Muslims in Jihad, will go to Paradise. So, they are promised no obligations, sex forever, wine women, song.

J: How do they prepare these suicide bombers or pilots to do these attacks?

M: Well, we’ve known for some time that in the various training camps and these training camps are in Yemen so we know that he is the one that blew up the U.S.S. Cole, these training camps are in the Sudan, he has training camps all over the world, even in South America, and of course they have training camps in the United States, they have summer camps for Muslim youth where they are shooting sub machine guns and doing practicing throwing bombs. This is all documented via video by Steve Emery, so we have a difficult situation where they are training pilots for this exact kind of thing, they are also training engineers, they are training people to disrupt the power centers if they wanted to, they have agents in place who can go to the major power plants and explode towers and things of that nature. And we have to understand that we are at war.

J: How wide spread is this philosophy among the Islamic world? I mean is every person who is a part of the Islamic faith, a Moslem, should we be concerned about them?

M: No, religion is religion. There are nominal Christians who don’t care what the Bible says; they just want to have a good time. There are Moslems who don’t care what Koran says; they just want to have a good time. The nominal Roman Catholic, nominal Buddhist, nominal Hindu, nominal Baptists, they are no threat to anybody but themselves. It is the hard-core which are always 10%. So, in an evangelical church, it is 10% who gives all of the giving, who does the praying, and the work, and the evangelizing, and teaching Sunday school. And in Islam, you’ve basically got a 10%, but that is 10% of 1 billion people.

J: Quite a large number, in fact I heard some statistics just the last day or two that the Islamic faith has grown in the last ten years by 500% as compared with Christianity only growing at a 47% increase.

M: I document that in the book Islamic Invasion and its demographics they can have four wives, and as many mistresses as they want, they can produce twelve, fifteen, sixteen children. The typical evangelical Christian has two kids, so they are winning the baby war.

J: Can we expect more of the same that happened here in America on Tuesday?

M: I’m afraid it is going to get worse. Each time it is worse, I know from my Israeli contacts with the Mossad in Israel that Bin Laden was successful in purchasing some small nuclear devices off of the defunct Soviet Union, according to the Christian Pakistani community one of these nuclear devices has been smuggled into the United States in a van out of Canada, and now rides around in the back of this van waiting for the time when Bin Laden wants to nuke D.C. or New York or something of that nature. So, the final climax is going to be mushroom clouds coming over our major cities.

J: If the United States responds with force, you’ve mentioned Israel. Will Israel be retaliated against?

M: This is a big question and I did a three hour show on the radio last night and one Christian caller called in and said lets just stone them, take the Afghanistan and stone it back, and I said, do you want to start a war with Israel? Is this what you want, and all of the Arab nations come against Israel when we are in a position that we can’t help them or do you want India and Pakistan to begin to drop atomic weapons on each other and have the air filled with radio active. We have to be very careful here. It is more important that we change the laws in Congress. Is Congress ready to reinvest, to reinpower the CIA to do assassinations and surgical strikes in other countries, yes we are breaking their laws, but we have to do what Israel is doing, we have to cut the head off of the snake which means we have got to get close enough to these people and I don’t care if it is a poison umbrella or poison cigar, whatever it is going to take, we have to take these people out,

J: What you are saying is we must respond but we must do it with a felt glove and the proper way and make certain we take care of it permanently.

M: Yes, you see the other one, remember I said will, we have to break the will to do these things. Secondly as I suggested last night that I told the FBI before, we need to do a vigorous world wide search of all the assets of Bin Laden and the other relatives of his that is up to one billion dollars, seize their bank accounts, electronically raid, take their money. And then I suggest one million dollars pre family who have suffered harm in these terrorist acts. Let him pay for it.

J: That would be a great thing if that indeed could happen. One more time give us that phone number and the name of the booklet that you are offering free of charge.

M: Will Islam Cause World War III is the name of the booklet. They can go to our web-site www.faithdefenders.com or call 1-800-41-truth. I do want to say that I appreciate your other activities, I remember on the Radio Bible class there was trying to do with the nation of Islam, when nobody else would deal with it a wonderful tract was produced and I have applauded this all along, the more the merrier, either we deal with this now or the time will come when they will deal with us.

J: Dr. Robert Morey, he is the author of some forty books, the one I have in my hand, The Islamic Invasion is a must. Dr. Morey, thank you so much for spending the few moments with us and for the information you’ve given us. God Bless.


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1 posted on 10/4/2001, 1:46:28 PM by justme346
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To: justme346
Not breaking news. More like an advertisement.
2 posted on 10/4/2001, 1:49:49 PM by Dirk McQuickly
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To: justme346
Interestingly enough, the blown up Russian airline with Israeli passengers may, *may* signal the beginning of an alliance between Russian and Israel...

Also, The Rev. Franklin Grahm (?), Billy Grahm's son, said last night on Hanity and Commie that he believes we are in the midnight hour of our appointed time with God- although he admitted he doesn't know if this time will last 10, 100, or 500 years.

3 posted on 10/4/2001, 1:51:33 PM by rintense
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To: Dirk McQuickly
I heard Ollie North say this morning on Fox that whenever someone claims that NBC terrorism is imminent, you should ask them if they're selling a book.
4 posted on 10/4/2001, 1:52:26 PM by BurkeanCyclist
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To: rintense
We have been saying that since Jesus left for Heaven. We have become like children on a car trip "Are we there yet? Are we there yet?".
6 posted on 10/4/2001, 1:55:20 PM by AppyPappy
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To: justme346
I know from my Israeli contacts with the Mossad in Israel that Bin Laden was successful in purchasing some small nuclear devices off of the defunct Soviet Union, according to the Christian Pakistani community one of these nuclear devices has been smuggled into the United States in a van out of Canada, and now rides around in the back of this van waiting for the time when Bin Laden wants to nuke D.C. or New York or something of that nature.

Kinda doubt it. Seems like if he had it, he would have used it.

7 posted on 10/4/2001, 1:55:27 PM by KillerWabbit
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To: justme346
They keyword is small nuclear device. The allegedly-in-Osama's-hands nukes are commonly referred to as "suitcase nukes". These are potent, but not city-busters. They'll make life nasty for a short while for a mile or so around the target, but one or even a small number of these do not add up to worldwide annihilation, nuclear winter and similar scenarios as a wholesale exchange of ICBMs between the superpowers would.

Their primary attraction to terrorists, IMHO, is the psychological aspect.
8 posted on 10/4/2001, 1:57:53 PM by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: KillerWabbit
I agree with you. Bin Laden would've used any nuclear device that he had as his first attack, or worse, on the 11th of last month in tandem with the airliner attacks.

The hatred is too great within these people for them to wait. I just don't see it.

9 posted on 10/4/2001, 2:11:47 PM by TKEman
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
"these do not add up to worldwide annihilation, nuclear winter"

Not even the big ones lead to 'nuclear winter'; it was disproven long ago.

One more sorry attempt by Carl Sagan to scare people into fearing nuclear weapons more than they already do.

Nuclear weapons are horrific enough already without silly ghost stories appended to them.

--Boris

10 posted on 10/4/2001, 2:14:59 PM by boris
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To: justme346
Yeah, but remember, this is the same guy who picked the Dallas Cowboys to go 14-2 this year.
11 posted on 10/4/2001, 2:15:31 PM by Whilom
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To: TKEman
"The hatred is too great within these people for them to wait. I just don't see it."

Well the attack on the WTC took years to plan. They have shown patience.

As some have already pointed out, Bin Laden probably has his next 3-4 moves already planned and ready.

And I personally have no doubt that there are dozens of cells, in place--with chem, bio, and nuclear devices--waiting until the order is received.

--Boris

12 posted on 10/4/2001, 2:17:04 PM by boris
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To: justme346
M: He has been promised by his prophet Mohammed and by Muslim authorities that anyone who commits suicide or dies while killing non-Muslims in Jihad, will go to Paradise. So, they are promised no obligations, sex forever, wine women, song.

If this is Paradise for Muslims, why doesn't Bin Laden just set them up with jobs in Las Vegas?

13 posted on 10/4/2001, 2:22:07 PM by DouglasKC
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
They'll make life nasty for a short while for a mile or so around the target

The smallest of these is equivalent to about 4,000 TONS of TNT, or 8,000,000 pounds of TNT. How many railroad cars would it take to transport that much TNT? Ever seen any TNT detonate? A blast that large which would totally destroy most any "point target". Whatever the target is, it is gone irregardless of most security measures, because the detonation can occur pretty far from the target and still anihilate it. These would make the WTC attack look benign.

A Russian ex-KGB officer told a Congressional committe that there are 76 of these devices already in the United States. For the right price offered to the right official, its just a matter of choosing the right target.

14 posted on 10/4/2001, 2:30:10 PM by GingisK
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To: KillerWabbit
Kinda doubt it. Seems like if he had it, he would have used it.

My guess that there are "sleepers" in this country with orders to drive it downtown and detonate upon word of OBL's death.

15 posted on 10/4/2001, 3:41:38 PM by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: GingisK
If a number of these 76 devices are here in the US already, they must be accompanied by a support team of expert technicians capable of their setup and use. I would think that any effort of training these people would have shown up on someone's intelligence. I have never heard of any Nuclear Device training schools here for a sleeper cell member to use and it would be unlikely that this training would be easily obtained anywhere. I doubt that these are a simple "set a timer and run" arrangement. Anyone know the technical complexity of these devices?

The job of eliminating radical Islam must continue with a will beyond steel AND we must be prepared with a plan for the maximum amount of retribution against all militant Islamists everywhere if any weapons of mass destruction are used by them. Instant, devestating, and absolutely decisive against this scourge on this beautiful gem of a planet that God has given us. The complete destruction of militant Islam worldwide is becoming more and more inevitable.

16 posted on 10/4/2001, 3:44:56 PM by Will
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To: Will
If a number of these 76 devices are here in the US already...

Both the FBI and CIA have "weighed in" in this matter thusly: "Oh, crap, its probably true!"

Technicians aren't really needed to prep them; and, they are extremely simple to use. Remember that tactical nukes can be fired from 8-inch howetzers under very ordinary circumtances. A "back-pack" nuke wouldn't have to be made to withstand the acceleration of firing.

These are Soviet devices and are probably not in the hands of Osama's folks. Remember that the Russians would be targeted as well for thier participation against the Taliban.

http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/11/8/73601

Merely one of many articles concerning the topic.

17 posted on 10/4/2001, 5:11:54 PM by GingisK
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To: BoPepper
BoPepper Disruptor since October 1st, 2001
 

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Disprove nuclear winter?...Oh, I dunno, but maybe you could start with:

Hot Air + Flawed Science = Dangerous Emissions

Or...

A Nuclear Winter's Tale:

"That most popular of scientists, Carl Sagan, grabbed the popular imagination but did his scientific reputation no good when he promulgated the idea in the Eighties that a nuclear war would lead to a blanket of dust from fires circling the Earth, cutting off the sun and leading to a vast drop in temperatures. Unfortunately, once the atmospheric scientists took a look at the theory they saw how weak it was. The theory would only work if exactly the right amount of dust entered the atmosphere; the models took no account of the reality that the smoke layer would not be uniform; the smoke would have to be very high up not to be quickly dissipated away by rainfall; the "greenhouse effect" would mean that the Earth would retain heat; the initial nuclear blasts would create high-level clouds which would cause a Nuclear Summer; and the models ignored the moderating effects of the oceans on any temperature effects. Unabashed, Sagan and his colleagues claimed that the Kuwaiti oil fires following the Gulf War would prove them right. They did not."

Among many, many others.

--Boris

19 posted on 10/5/2001, 12:25:54 AM by boris
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