Disagree. He did have a defining moment. Unfortunately it involved a sink and an intern.

"He said there has to be a defining moment in a presidency..."

He had his "defining moment."

It was called Monica.

Clinton never will understand that.

I disagree with you. The defining moment was the sentence,

"That depends on what the meaning of 'is' is."

That will be a question for philosophers to argue about for centuries to come.

No doubt.... wait... I did not have sex with that woman...

I was watching that statement live, and I will remember the look on the face of that lying sack of s#!t impersonating POTUS for as long as I live. Definately a defining moment IMHO.

He could have. WTC 1, Waco, Ruby Ridge, OKC, TWA 800...

His defining moment was with the US people when he said, "I never had sex with that woman." His defining moment was REDEFINING the verb *sex.* Whaaahhhhh - what a cry baby.

He did have defining moments. Waco. OKC. The Cole. The 1993 WTC bombing. And others. But he was soooooo busy getting his snorkel waxed that he didn't notice that the American people were in danger. Half the time he was involved. F**k him. Treasonous b*st*rd! fsf

Snorkel Waxed????

That is a new one for the dictionary! LMAO!!!!!

That's the moment history will best remember him for. I thought that his failure to even bother denying the Broaddrick rape was rather defining too. A classic OJ Simpson moment: "I defer to the statement of my attorney," when asked whether he had raped Juanita. Any man innocent of a rape charge leveled at him, particularly one so credibly given, would shout his innocence from the mountaintops to all who would listen. Certainly you might have your attorney make a statement, but an innocent man would NEVER let such a weak and narrow denial just stand alone.

You sound like a man who could appreciate stock in Johnson & Johnson!!!! :o) fsf

Idiot. He doesn't understand that Great Presidents define their moments, not the other way around. Bush could easily launch a few trial balloons, fire a cruise missile or two and even this would fade from memory. But Bush is defining this as a war on terrorism and is moving Heaven and Earth to make it so. Clinton could never stomach the political risk necessary to mount such a campaign.

Clinton had plenty of opportunities to define himself. It was just too risky for him.

He ALWAYS looked like a used car salesman to me. Still does...

*Come to Uncle Bill's for a great deal......*

Make that *Girl*

You sound like a man who could appreciate stock in Johnson & Johnson!!!! :o) fsf

Make that *GIRL*

I think Sullivan understands. It is just that the quote is SO similar to Caligula's.

I think that Caligula and Clinton share many attributes.

Caligula got his horse elected to the Roman Senate. Clinton didn't have a horse, so....

Clinton's regret? That's funny, we regret Clinton too.

Sorry about the two posts....Will have to share snorkle waxing with hubby! : )

I agree with you all about x42's legacy. However, his words parallel Caligula's words. Caligula was a Roman emporer. Here is a little bit of info I found on him.

All classical accounts of Gaius "Caligula" (12-41) agree that he possessed elements of madness, cruelty, viciousness, extravagance and megalomania. He is described as a coarse and cruel despot with an extraordinary passion for sadism and a fierce energy. He could get extremely excited and angry...Caligula loved dressing up and used to dress in rich silk, ornamented with precious stones and he wore jewels on his shoes. Pearls were dissolved in vinegar, which he then drank, and he liked to roll on heaps of gold...Caligula even opened a brothel in his palace where Roman matrons, their daughters and freeborn youths could be hired for money....Caligula was irresistibly attracted by every pretty young woman whom he did not possess. He even committed incest with his own three sisters. He would carefully examine women of rank in Rome and whenever he felt so inclined, he would send for whoever pleased him best. He debauched them and left them like fruit he had tasted and thrown away. Afterwards, he would openly discuss his bedfellow in detail.... He suffered severely from sleeplessness, never sleeping for more than three hours a night and even for that length of time he did not sleep quietly; he was terrified by strange manifestations.

As a *girl* myself, I am ashamed at my preconceived notions. Everyone assumes that because I talk so dirty, I am a boy! :o) Welcome to the sisterhood!!!!! :o) fsf