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Libertarians Say Bus Hijacking Illustrates Need For Concealed Gun Laws
CNSNews.com ^ | 10/05/01 | Jim Burns

Posted on 10/05/2001 3:50:46 AM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - Wednesday's Greyhound bus hijacking that left six people dead illustrates the need for every state to pass "Vermont-style" concealed gun laws, so Americans can defend themselves against terrorists or deranged murderers, according to the Libertarian Party.

The party's national director Steve Dasbach said Thursday, "Let's put the Second Amendment to work to protect Americans. The best defense against hijackers or run-of-the-mill copycat madmen is to give every American the legal right to own a gun and carry it everywhere."

The attack occurred when a Croatian man used a box cutter to slash the throat of a Greyhound bus driver just outside Manchester, Tenn. The driver is undergoing medical treatment. The man grabbed the bus steering wheel and drove it into oncoming traffic. Six people including the hijacker were killed and 34 people were injured.

Dasbach believes the attack shows that no form of transportation is safe from potential attack, which is why every law-abiding American should have the right to carry a concealed weapon.

"After terrorists hijacked four airliners on September 11, the consensus was that greater airport security could stymie such attacks. That may be true, but a similar solution won't protect Americans who use buses, trains, taxicabs, or other forms of travel. There are simply too many modes of public transportation," he said.

"The only way to keep Americans safe is to decentralize protection: Give every law-abiding citizen the right to carry a weapon at all times," Dasbach said.

"No, that won't stop every attempted hijacking and may not even have stopped the tragedy in Tennessee, but criminals and terrorists will be far less likely to attack if they know they'll be staring down the business end of a dozen American guns," he concluded.

Vermont is the only state in the nation that doesn't require a license to carry a concealed weapon.

The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence doesn't think giving Americans the right to carry weapons is a good idea.

"The gun lobby claims that only 'law-abiding citizens' apply for and receive carrying-concealed weapons licenses and that more people carrying hidden guns will make our society safer. However, it is a serious mistake to assume that only 'good guys' have these licenses, and that the people carrying the weapons are responsible, mature and abide by the laws," the Brady Campaign said in a statement on its website.

"Thanks to the lax CCW laws in many states," the Brady statement continued, "abusive husbands, mentally unstable individuals, people with a grudge and people who are simply careless or uneducated about firearms safety can and do get CCW permits, posing a potential danger to their families and communities."

The Brady Campaign also believes the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution does not permit people to carry concealed weapons.


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1 posted on 10/05/2001 3:50:46 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater...confidence than an armed man. - Thomas Jefferson

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2 posted on 10/05/2001 3:55:12 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: kattracks
I support concealed carry, but I don't see how it would have stopped this. Not trying to be argumentative, but I have to believe the assailant thought he was going to die anyway. The threat of death would not have deterred him.

If someone gets up to get something out of the overhead rack, or to talk to someone a few seats in front of him, when do you pull your weapon and tell him to sit down?

I don't think this is a good argument for concealed carry. We need a better one that the Brady bunch can't pull apart.

In God We Trust.....Semper Fi

3 posted on 10/05/2001 4:03:07 AM PDT by North Coast Conservative
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To: kattracks
Shouldn't this read:

"people with a grudge and people who are simply careless or uneducated about firearms safety can and do support the Brady Campaign, posing a potential danger to their families and communities."

These Brady Campaign pukes need to just hunker in a gated community somewhere in Australia and leave the real Americans alone.

4 posted on 10/05/2001 4:08:54 AM PDT by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: kattracks
Actually I think the offical line from Harry Brown is that the root cause of this attack was US foreign policy and we must understand and assume WE are the root cause of these disasters. After all, if we don't recognise that WE are the problem, then how can we fix it?
5 posted on 10/05/2001 4:12:28 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: conspiratoristo
The threat of death would not have deterred him.

How about death?

6 posted on 10/05/2001 4:14:09 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
How about death?

:-}

7 posted on 10/05/2001 4:21:10 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: conspiratoristo
My state's CWP does not allow threats or warnings. You keep your rod in your britches until time to use it to "deliver you from evil."

Similar logic applies in the air. No one knows you're armed until you draw and kill the terr. Just as on the ground I'm sure you'll be incarcerated at least early in the investigation. Goat or hero in one micro-second.

8 posted on 10/05/2001 4:26:00 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com
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To: kattracks
heh...those whack-job Libertines are at it again.
9 posted on 10/05/2001 4:34:17 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: kattracks
if anyone can bring a gun but only terrorists bring them then people will be killed. We also can't assume a terrorist will be deterred by the possibility that someone has a gun. Mutually assured destruction doesn't work with suicide terrorists. What about better protection? We can have bullet proof partitions for bus drivers just like we have for taxi drivers.
10 posted on 10/05/2001 4:35:22 AM PDT by arielb
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To: kattracks
If any of these yahoo libertarians ever road a bus they would realize quite a few passengers probably are armed and carry quantities of drugs. Libertarian heaven - guns and drugs!
11 posted on 10/05/2001 4:38:33 AM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: jwalsh07
No Harry Brown's position is that this was the direct result of the confiscation of personal income to build the unconstitutional interstate highway system. Surely, you can see that a network of privately funded and owned roads would have prevented this. If eveyone owned their own road then they could travel with as much armament as they please. After all, who would try to hijack you if you were driving your own Armored Personnel Carrier or tank?

I think Michael Rivero is working on some kind of conspiracy link involving the Mossad, the CIA, the Arkansas Mafia, "Socks, the Cat", Princess Dianna, and John Doe #394A.

12 posted on 10/05/2001 4:55:06 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: kattracks
The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence doesn't think

Let's just leave it at that. Best describes Brady and accomplices.

"abusive husbands, mentally unstable individuals, people with a grudge and people who are simply careless or uneducated about firearms safety can and do get CCW permits, posing a potential danger to their families and communities."

abusive husbands, mentally unstable individuals, people with a grudge and people who are simply careless or uneducated about knife, baseball bat and tire iron safety can and do get them posing a potential danger to their families and communities.

If guns cause crime, matches cause arson

Guns, knives, baseball bats and tire irons don't kill people, people with a grudge and people who are simply careless or uneducated kill people.

13 posted on 10/05/2001 5:24:23 AM PDT by Zon
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Well, how long will it be before someone claims this is related to libertarians using drugs?
14 posted on 10/05/2001 5:32:04 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: conspiratoristo
If someone gets up to get something out of the overhead rack, or to talk to someone a few seats in front of him, when do you pull your weapon and tell him to sit down?

When they brandish a gun in a threatening manner. Same as when you are approached on the street. I shouldn't have to be telling you this.

I don't think this is a good argument for concealed carry. We need a better one that the Brady bunch can't pull apart.

Since when is the self-defense of your life and the noble self-defense of twenty other passengers' lives not worth of concealed carry? That's the pointed rhetoric. The self-defense of your life and the noble/heroic self-defense of twenty other passengers' lives is overwhelming cause/reason for concealed carry.

The Brady bunch will try to pull anything out of context. The response is to put it back in valid context and then point out that the Brady bunch is the problem for forcing innocent citizens to be defenseless while making it easier for criminals to victimize innocent people.

15 posted on 10/05/2001 5:37:50 AM PDT by Zon
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To: arielb
if anyone can bring a gun but only terrorists bring them then people will be killed.

Not an original or astute observation. It's like saying only a fool brings a knife to a gun fight. It's that way now because of 20,000 unconstitutional gun-control laws and most of all, the scare/fear tactics used to "legitimize" the passing of those laws is why many more people don't carry guns.

17 posted on 10/05/2001 5:46:45 AM PDT by Zon
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To: jwalsh07
Harry the CLOWN Brown...the DOPE who wants to legalize it.
18 posted on 10/05/2001 5:52:18 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Impeach the Boy
Golly that was clever.

What are you in... seventh grade?

19 posted on 10/05/2001 5:55:21 AM PDT by OWK
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