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Luther and Mariology!
FR ^ | Antonius

Posted on 10/08/2001 4:52:32 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon

Let's play "Who said this?"... "It is a sweet and pious belief that the infusion of Mary's soul was effected without original sin; so that in the very infusion of her soul she was also purified from original sin and adorned with God's gifts, receiving a pure soul infused by God; thus from the first moment she began to live she was free from all sin" (Sermon: "On the Day of the Conception of the Mother of God," 1527). "She is full of grace, proclaimed to be entirely without sin- something exceedingly great. For God's grace fills her with everything good and makes her devoid of all evil. (Personal {"Little"} Prayer Book, 1522). "Whoever possesses a good (firm) faith, says the Hail Mary without danger! Whoever is weak in faith can utter no Hail Mary without danger to his salvation. (Sermon, March 11, 1523). "Our prayer should include the Mother of God . . . What the Hail Mary says is that all glory should be given to God, using these words: "Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus Christ. Amen!" You see that these words are not concerned with prayer but purely with giving praise and honor . . . We can use the Hail Mary as a meditation in which we recite what grace God has given her. Second, we should add a wish that everyone may know and respect her . . . He who has no faith is advised to refrain from saying the Hail Mary. (Personal Prayer Book, 1522). Well, if you haven't guessed by this point, the answer is Martin Luther......


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Found this on a previous post. Sounds interesting...
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3bc0e8244d1e.htm
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1 posted on 10/08/2001 4:52:32 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: HapaxLegamenon
Anyone know Antonius?
2 posted on 10/08/2001 4:59:46 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: HapaxLegamenon
It's still bunk.
3 posted on 10/08/2001 5:04:17 PM PDT by ikka
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To: HapaxLegamenon
Q. What did Martin Luther do with unsolicited correspondence?

A. He read his junk mail in his monk jail!

Copyright 2001 by Hit & Run Poster

4 posted on 10/08/2001 5:17:26 PM PDT by Hit & Run Poster
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To: Hit & Run Poster
LOL
5 posted on 10/08/2001 5:20:23 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: HapaxLegamenon
Wow, my screen name is doing progressively worse stuff in HTML!
6 posted on 10/08/2001 5:22:59 PM PDT by Hit & Run Poster
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To: HapaxLegamenon
At least Mary never recommended destroying infidels
7 posted on 10/08/2001 5:23:52 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: HapaxLegamenon
Luther's not my Pope. He was a great theologian, not an infallible one.
8 posted on 10/08/2001 6:31:14 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: HapaxLegamenon
BTW, Luther's last Will and Testament had 200 peices of gold for a order of monks to pray for him for eternity. Just in case purgatory was a real place. Covering all his ecclesiastic bases as it were.

Shalom,

DrMike

9 posted on 10/08/2001 6:40:27 PM PDT by STD
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To: HapaxLegamenon
Luther was, of course, a Catholic (when was the Christian church first labeled Catholic?) before he rebelled against a then corrupt Rome and the practice of buying redemption.
10 posted on 10/08/2001 6:44:34 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: HapaxLegamenon
And your point is?
11 posted on 10/08/2001 6:56:27 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh
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To: HapaxLegamenon
I thought all Catholics thought that Luther was wrong/ Are you telling me he was wrong on faith but right on Mary?
12 posted on 10/08/2001 7:32:07 PM PDT by Joshua
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To: HapaxLegamenon
Who said this?

Never feed your dog table scraps----- St. Bernard

Never use your real name on FR----- St Nick.

Briiiiiiiing-Briiiiiiing, Sorry I can't come to the phone right now. Leave a message after the tone---- St. Elsewhere

13 posted on 10/08/2001 7:46:29 PM PDT by Joshua
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To: HapaxLegamenon
'He who has no faith is advised to refrain from saying Hail Mary"

CORRECTION - People WITH faith are advised to refrain from saying Hail Mary.

15 posted on 10/08/2001 8:14:29 PM PDT by america76
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To: HapaxLegamenon; Dataman; Buggman; caleb1411
Isn't it wonderful to be a Biblical Christian? While we can learn from our forebears in the faith, we are not chained to their errors! Praise God for the wonderful, jealousy-inspiring freedom of being a son of God!

Dan
What Is Biblical Christianity?

16 posted on 10/08/2001 8:19:55 PM PDT by BibChr
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I am a LCMS Lutheran. I have been all my life. Luther was not God. He was a man. He was capable of sin. Lutherans are christians put their faith in Christ, not in men, not in Mary. It always amazes me how people try to start fights over Christianity on FR.
17 posted on 10/08/2001 8:33:11 PM PDT by GWfan
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To: BibChr
we are not chained to their errors!

Right. Luther was a reformer, not the founder of Christianity.

Whether it be the errors of Luther or the errors of popes, threads like this serve no other purpose except to pit Catholics against Non-Catholics. Perhaps we should be looking at the glaring errors of Islam.

18 posted on 10/09/2001 6:12:10 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: GWfan
Am nor nor ever have been a Lutheran, but I certainly am an admirer of Luther. It is true that, when he was wrong, it was a "doozie"; but when he was right, the foundations shook.

In fact, Dr. Luther drops by our house every October 31 to tell my kids about how he learned of the justifying grace and righteousness of God, how God used him to oppose a corrupt sect and to put the Bible in the language of the people.

But as I say, he's an elder brother from whom I can learn. Thank God I don't have some un-Biblical notion of an extra-Biblical line of authority, shackling me to repeat the errors of the past! I hope I can benefit the people I teach, but were I to die and go to be with the Lord and learn that they had decided to repeat my own mistakes, I'd be heartsick!

Thank God for the freedom of the Christian!

Dan

19 posted on 10/09/2001 6:52:11 AM PDT by BibChr
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and to put the Bible in the language of the people.

You failed to mention it was Luther's abridged version of the Bible.

20 posted on 10/09/2001 7:16:19 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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