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Weapons built to kill Nazis given new lease of life
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 10/12/2001 | ANTHONY LOYD

Posted on 10/11/2001 4:58:31 PM PDT by Pokey78

AMONG the heaps of stacked tank treads, machinegun barrels, tripods and rocket-launchers strewn around the Northern Alliance arms workshop at Parakh in the Panshjir Valley, lie weapons that have seen three generations of conflict.

From the snows of the Russian steppes in the Second World War, to Afghanistan in 1979 to bombard the guerrillas, the weapons now being repaired for use against the Taleban are the oldest in the otherwise smart-technology “war against terrorism”.

“It’s still a good weapon,” Mohammed Shah, chief engineer in the workshop’s artillery section, said, patting the barrel of a Russian 76mm field gun dated 1942.

“The Russians built weapons and machines that really lasted and coped with the dust and cold. They come in here now if they have problems, like this one has with its breech. We can almost always fix them quickly and get them back to the front.”

There are more than 50 artillery pieces of various calibres around him. Nearly half are of Second World War vintage.

Having been deprived of almost all technology over its 22-year history of war, Afghanistan is full of examples of ingenuity, but few are as impressive as the workshop at Parakh, the Alliance’s main engineering faculty.

Created by the Mujahidin during its war against the Soviet occupation, the workshop began as a place where a few engineers fixed broken Kalashnikovs. It looks like a scrapheap. Yet from numerous sheds comes a constant sound of banging and drilling as engineers repair everything from jammed machineguns to tank engines, as well as designing their own weapons.

About 1,200 men are employed there. They have only one furnace, a tiny improvised diesel affair the size of a dustbin fanned by motor-driven bellows. They use it to melt down battlefield junk to produce tailfins for rockets.

A long timber and mud warehouse holds about 20 Russian lathes of Cold War vintage which the Mujahidin managed to pull out from a factory in Kabul as they retreated from the Taleban in 1996.

Powered by a single, large generator, and lit by nothing more than 20 60-watt light bulbs and three angle-poise lamps, the lathes are used for reboring barrels and making engine parts.

“We are particularly proud of our truck-mounted rocket,” Abdul Hafiz Khan, formerly a communist engineer, said.

“The Taleban are always slow in their attacks and like to push tanks up first. We needed a fast, mobile rocket system to hit the infantry behind the tanks. So we cut Katyusha rocket barrels in half, weld them on to the turret mounts from wrecked armoured personnel carriers and attach them to the back of trucks. They’re great.”

So the clanking and banging in the tool sheds of Parakh continues, as guns built to kill Nazis are prepared for another genration’s use on the dusty battlefields of Afghanistan.


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1 posted on 10/11/2001 4:58:31 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
For later
2 posted on 10/11/2001 5:20:41 PM PDT by Nov3
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Wonder if anyone is using Panzers these days. They were in some use as late as the '67 war.
3 posted on 10/11/2001 5:35:27 PM PDT by veracious
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To: Pokey78
Created by the Mujahidin during its war against the Soviet occupation, the workshop began as a place where a few engineers fixed broken Kalashnikovs. It looks like a scrapheap. Yet from numerous sheds comes a constant sound of banging and drilling as engineers repair everything from jammed machineguns to tank engines, as well as designing their own weapons.

Gee, and I thought no one could beat the Mexicans as "fix-it" mechanics....

But then, as one Russian told me years ago, "Afghanistan is our Mexico."

4 posted on 10/11/2001 5:40:39 PM PDT by Map Kernow
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To: veracious
I've read comments by modern military experts who claim that the Tiger tank would still be a formidable weapon today. Although the Germans had some fantastic weapons, many of them were very complicated and hard to repair. Plus they had too many varieties. Thank God Hitler didn't see how formidable jet fighters would have been if produced in large numbers. Ditto with the V-2 rocket for which we had no defense. The Russkys stuck to a few good weapons and made them reliable. And they were able to manufacture them in mass quantities. Plus the T-34 was considered the best all-around tank of the war. That with Stalin's lack of scruples in slaughtering his seemingly limitless troops in massed assaults finally smashed the Germans center in 1944. The Reds probably lost over ten million soldiers in the war although they claim only seven million. Retreats were discouraged in the Red Army as the NKVD waited in the rear during battles to shoot any soldiers not advancing towards the enemy.
5 posted on 10/11/2001 6:20:47 PM PDT by driftless
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To: Pokey78
Any weapon is a good weapon when it is the only one you have.
6 posted on 10/11/2001 6:22:15 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: driftless
Actualy there was a defense against the V2. The Brittish Gloster Meteor jet was used in the last days of the war against the V2. Since shooting it out of the air would cause an explosion that would likely take out the Meteor as well, pilots would simply pull up along side it and nudge it with the wing of the jet down into the channel.

It may sound far fetched but I read this in an old RAF diary from 1946 that had a section in the back devoted to RAF and US aircraft. The caption below the photo of the Meteor outlined this procedure. Said it worked. Likely had to be in the right place at the right time for intercept though.

7 posted on 10/11/2001 6:32:10 PM PDT by america76
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You're thinking of the V-1, the pulse-jet powered precursor to the modern cruise missle.

The V-2 was a ballistic missle, against which we still don't have a defense. Well, a Patriot might work against one now.

8 posted on 10/11/2001 6:44:59 PM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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To: Djk
It came down at about a mile per second.

We would have needed Patriot PAC-2 to defend against the V-2--a Scud is simply an improved V-2 with a Russian accent.

10 posted on 10/11/2001 6:49:38 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: riverrunner
When the Rooskies went into Afghanistan in '79, I saw a bit on the nightly news showing locals producing hand-made copies of the Springfield A3-03 rifle. Believe it or not, they were using a hand-powered lathe to rifle the barrel - which was made out of REBAR!
11 posted on 10/11/2001 7:35:00 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: Tony in Hawaii,Djk
You guys may be right. I'll look that up. I know the Gloster was not supersonic. The first was the Bell X1. I hope I have at least that right.
12 posted on 10/11/2001 7:44:17 PM PDT by america76
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To: Map Kernow
Gee, and I thought no one could beat the Mexicans as "fix-it" mechanics

Yea but do they do tuck n roll interiors on there tanks?

13 posted on 10/11/2001 8:07:32 PM PDT by tophat9000
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So they have been watching the A-team on television?
14 posted on 10/11/2001 8:12:20 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: FirstFlaBn
When the Rooskies went into Afghanistan in '79, I saw a bit on the nightly news showing locals producing hand-made copies of the Springfield A3-03 rifle. Believe it or not, they were using a hand-powered lathe to rifle the barrel - which was made out of REBAR!

That would be quite a collector's item.

15 posted on 10/11/2001 8:12:51 PM PDT by Riley
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To: veracious
Wonder if anyone is using Panzers these days. They were in some use as late as the '67 war.

Interesting. Who? The Syrians?

16 posted on 10/11/2001 8:16:54 PM PDT by Hamza01
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To: tophat9000
with 'dingle balls'? lol!
17 posted on 10/11/2001 8:19:58 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: FirstFlaBn
REBAR

i'll bet that 'rifling' shot out quick!! unless they could hard chrome the barrels.
resourceful buggers, ain't they? just like the VC!!!

18 posted on 10/11/2001 8:22:57 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: tophat9000
if they start doing 'hopping contests' with the tanks, then it's ALL OVER!!!
19 posted on 10/11/2001 8:24:48 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: Pokey78
Now THIS is a cool story!

From dusting off Nazis to dusting off Taliban terrorists... what a legacy for the Soviet hardware.

20 posted on 10/11/2001 8:28:18 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP
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