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IT'S TIME TO LOOK CRITICALLY AT SOME POST-ATTACK MYTHS
Universal Press Syndicate ^ | Georgie Geyer

Posted on 10/12/2001 9:58:38 AM PDT by Olydawg

WASHINGTON -- It has been a full month since the heinous bombings of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, and certain stories taking root on the tragedies are already beginning to take on the lasting forms of myth. They are, for the most part, well-meaning. The nagging question is: Do they also have the advantage of being true?

Take, first, the idea that all Muslim Americans are, first, Americans and that all are horrified by the tragedies that assaulted America. Let us look a bit more critically at that.

Last week youngsters around here were rightly protecting their young Muslim friends from any prejudice or violence. The girls in one high school appeared at school wearing "the veil" to symbolize their solidarity with the Muslim girls.

That same day The New York Times was publishing a story by Susan Sachs called "The Two Worlds of Muslim-American Teenagers." In this story, the students interviewed at the Islamic Al Noor School in Brooklyn said, "Muslims are all one. (Muslims overseas) kind of think of us as just living in America." The students agreed that the Koran, being the "literal word of God," provides the perfect blueprint for their lives and that "their ideal society would follow Islamic law and make no separation between religion and state" (upon which, of course, America is profoundly based).

They did agree in the discussion with the reporter that they would have to accept paying taxes -- in order to become doctors and lawyers trained in America -- but they did not like it because those taxes financed things that were un-Islamic, such as licenses for alcohol. A recent story about Muslim men in The Chicago Tribune reported that they wanted to change the banking system to an Islamic one, where, for instance, interest is forbidden.

But it was in the area of "defending one's country" that the Brooklyn students were most revealing. Most said, for example, that they would "support any leader who they decided was fighting for Islam." And they included the rulers of just about every Arab and Muslim country.

One boy, Fami Fozi, averred that he would support any Muslim whom he determined to be an observant Muslim fighting for an Islamic cause, even if it meant abandoning the United States. None of them believed that Osama bin Laden -- or, indeed, any Muslim -- was behind the bombings.

All felt U.S. society was prejudiced against them, and they were puzzled and amazed to receive countless offers of guidance counseling, support visits from state education officials, and a stream of friendly phone calls.

Let's examine the implications here. President Bush is right to insist that this is not a U.S. war against Islam. His visit to the mosque here and his talks with Muslim leaders were humanely and tactically correct, even gracious in that agreeable Bush-family way.

Nonetheless, although individual Muslim-Americans have grieved, and grieved publicly, those expressions of loyalty to this country at this grave time have not been overwhelming. (Even among my own many Arab and Muslim friends, the response has been more political than patriotic.)

More worrisome is the fact that many of the prominent Muslims that President Bush called in to show solidarity with America after the tragedy were, as Martin Peretz wrote in the New Republic recently, "in some way compromised."

He detailed among them Salam al-Marayati, who had already suggested that Israel was behind the bombings, and Hamza Yusuf, who had prophesied on Sept. 9 that a "great disaster would soon fall on the U.S." Peretz asks the "fearsome thought on just about everybody's mind" but on almost no one's lips: Does the United States have a fifth column?

That question would be easier to answer if our present Muslim-American population were clearer on their perceptions of the division of church and state, and on which they would defend first: America or Islam or even radicalized Islam.

These concerns are not borne of prejudice, which has no place here. They are serious questions that any self-respecting nation-state must ask itself to preserve the health and survival of its own guiding principles.

For the deeper historical problem inside Islam today is its incapacity to deal with modernization. The radical fundamentalists across the Muslim world fear cosmopolitanism. There is a growing hatred of a world of prosperity and progress that has left the once-great "Empire of Islam" far behind. Bin Laden's apocalyptic vision is built on those fears and hatreds. It is the inevitable handmaiden of the envy of the teeming, unassimilable boys of the Muslim world who see the "ungodly" West leaving them in the ashes of history.

For this is a "religious war," although the administration does not want to portray it as such. Islam, like Christianity, indeed all religions, can be a peaceable kingdom -- or a warring one. As Bernard Lewis, the great scholar of Islam, has written: "In moments of upheaval and disruption, when the deeper passions are stirred (the Muslim) dignity and courtesy toward others can give way to an explosive mixture of rage and hatred."

These are the complex, multihued realities that must not be allowed to fade from view in the rosy light of the myths being created. It is certainly moral for students to step forward to defend their Muslim fellow-students. It is also desirable for those girls to understand that the veil they are symbolically donning here in this free land is the symbol of subservience that progressive Arab and Asian women struggle so incessantly against.


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Very interesting column. My thought is: If America is such a horrible, sinful place, why not get the F out?
1 posted on 10/12/2001 9:58:38 AM PDT by Olydawg
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To: Olydawg
Excellent article
2 posted on 10/12/2001 10:05:18 AM PDT by TopDog2
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To: Olydawg
Bump
3 posted on 10/12/2001 10:09:29 AM PDT by Free the USA
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: If America is such a horrible, sinful place, why not get the F out?

Muslims submit to violence against non Islamic people. They are the servants of violence, not, Allah, but to the will that they say is Allah's. The sole reason they are in the US it is to get some money and persecute America. Their religion is a purely secular one. They could give a crap about any god, violence is their mean, not God.

5 posted on 10/12/2001 10:11:26 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Olydawg
That question would be easier to answer if our present Muslim-American population were clearer on their perceptions of the division of church and state,

There is no separation between religion and government for these people. Surely the author understands this? Hasn't the author ever heard of middle-eastern countris being refered to as "islamic states"? They define themselves by religion. Thats partly why they hate everyone else.

6 posted on 10/12/2001 10:11:59 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: lavaroise
Then I guess the questions should be: Why don't we throw them the F out?
7 posted on 10/12/2001 10:14:13 AM PDT by Olydawg
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To: Olydawg
he would support any Muslim whom he determined to be an observant Muslim fighting for an Islamic cause, even if it meant abandoning the United States

It's pretty clear where this guy's loyalty lies, and I suspect a lot of muslims feel the same way.

8 posted on 10/12/2001 10:15:59 AM PDT by winna
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To: Olydawg
When any ethnic group came to this country they retained their old ways as long as there was constantly "new blood" coming from overseas. Once the tide of immigrants had ceased the group starts to blend into the larger American fabric. A troubling trend that counters this is that with increasingly easier travel and communication today the immigrants may remain forever as much connected to the old world as the new. We can certainly end the flow of immigration if we only have the will.
9 posted on 10/12/2001 10:17:23 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: Manny Festo,FITZ,lent,patent,dennisw,rebdov,wardaddy,Physicist
5th Column Bump.
10 posted on 10/12/2001 10:17:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Olydawg
Very interesting column. My thought is: If America is such a horrible, sinful place, why not get the F out?

The reason why they talk this way is because we tolerate it and the fundamentalists in their communities do not. They know they can get away with pissing us off -- but they don't dare piss off the mullah in their mosque or they're exorcised from their community.

Being part of an Islamic community is kind of like being in a police state. You don't want to get into an argument with Crazy Cousin Abdul, so you go, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, death to America. Say, what's on MTV?"

Start revoking visas and kicking them back home for making anti-US comments, and you'll see a sudden conversion from Lip Service Islam. Even Crazy Cousin Abdul may come around, because even he really doesn't want to go back to live in the Land of Taliban and No Toilet Paper.

11 posted on 10/12/2001 10:18:37 AM PDT by 537 Votes
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To: FreeTally
The reason Bush and Blair keep repeating over and over that Islam is a religion of peace - is because they know damn well it is not.
12 posted on 10/12/2001 10:18:51 AM PDT by Guillam
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To: Colt .45
Kill them all, God will know his own!

I guess that is the more elegant version of "Kill em all and let God sort em out"!

13 posted on 10/12/2001 10:24:04 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Olydawg
Georgie Ann hits the nail on the head again. Nice to see a nationally recognized columnist unafraid of being un-PC.

I've been saying this for years: while most new immigrants love the material comforts to be had in this country, when you really get to talking to them, it is amazing just how much many of those from non-Western cultures absolutely disdain our culture, history, institutions, and most especially, the historic peoples of the United States. If we don't limit immigration and vigorously promote assimilation of those who remain, they will kill us either slowly or quickly.

14 posted on 10/12/2001 10:25:47 AM PDT by uscit
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To: Olydawg
" Does the United States have a fifth column? "

YES!

15 posted on 10/12/2001 10:26:00 AM PDT by Republic of Texas
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To: Guillam
I'm beginning to think the same thing.

They may just be saying "Nice doggie", while they select a larger, sharper rock.

prambo

16 posted on 10/12/2001 10:28:00 AM PDT by prambo
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To: 537 Votes
Buh-Bye. Come visit when you can't stay as long.
17 posted on 10/12/2001 10:33:40 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: Olydawg
Yes, we would actually be doing them a favor to deport them because according to the Koran, living with infidels is a sin anyhow. They are required to live under Islamic law, they may think they're here to convert this nation to Islam but that's not going to happen so it's time they go back and live in their Islamic states.
18 posted on 10/12/2001 10:35:56 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Straight Vermonter
And we have to get after our political leaders to do that or they will backslide and put the onus on us to be "sensitive." Something about Bush's twice using the new term, "women of cover" bothered me. I think Ms. Geyer is hinting at whether we need to be so sensitive to them vs. them needing to think about what we make of their veils. They can choose to assimilate.
19 posted on 10/12/2001 10:38:24 AM PDT by karth
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To: Jaded
I wonder if the high school girls that wore viels in solidarity would also submit to leaving school and having thier genitals mutilated as many other muslim girls must do in the name of solidarity.
20 posted on 10/12/2001 10:41:33 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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