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Evidence of six hijacking teams
The Guardian (U.K.) ^ | 10/13/2001 | Julian Borger and John Hooper

Posted on 10/12/2001 6:45:11 PM PDT by Pokey78

Search for 10 terrorists still at large in US

US immigration officials are racing against time to comb through years of data in a search for up to 10 trained al-Qaida hijackers who, investigators believe, are still on the loose in America.

Evidence has emerged on both sides of the Atlantic that indicates there were plans to hijack two more airliners on September 11 and that several of the would-be hijackers have yet to be caught.

Since September 11 there has been speculation over the existence of more hijack cells, apart from the 19 terrorists who took over four airliners and crashed them into the World Trade Centre, the Pentagon, and a rural area in Pennsylvania.

Following the discovery of fresh documentary evidence, investigators in the US and Europe are working on the assumption that 30 terrorists, in six teams, were intended to have taken part in the onslaught. It is thought at least one plane was to have been aimed at the White House.

An intelligence source in the US said another plane due to have been hijacked was a Continental Airlines flight from Newark on the morning of September 11. Retractable knives (similar to Stanley knives) of the same type used in the four successful hijackings were found taped to the backs of fold-down trays.

The source did not give details of the sixth plane. However, similar knives were found stashed in the seats on a plane which had been due to leave Logan airport in Boston the same morning, and which was delayed and then cancelled.

The new evidence specified the number of hijackers involved but did not provide all their names, an intelligence source in the US said. Two suspected members of the Hamburg-based cell where the plot is thought to have been hatched are missing.

Both men, Said Bahaji and Ramzi bin al-Shibh, are thought to have formed part of the operation's back-up structure and are thought to have fled to Pakistan.

The only named suspect thought to have been part of the September 11 team is a Moroccan-French man in custody in New York. Zacarias Moussaoui is seen as a possible fifth member of the hijack team which seized United Airlines flight 93, the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania.

Moussaoui, who lived in London before leaving for the US early this year, was detained on August 17 after his requests for flying lessons on an airliner simulator aroused suspicion. He possessed only a student pilot's licence and wanted to learn how to turn and fly straight, not how to take off or land.

Two Indian citizens, Mohamed Azmath and Ayub Khan, have also been under suspicion of involvement. They were arrested on September 12 in Texas on a train from St Louis to San Antonio.

On the morning of September 11, they had boarded a flight from Newark to San Antonio, but it had been diverted to St Louis after news came of the first impact in New York. The two men were found with retractable knives, thousands of dollars, and hair dye among their possessions.

There have been reports that both held a commercial pilot's licence in India, although before September 11 they had low-paid jobs at a newspaper kiosk. Somehow they could afford to send $64,000 (£45,000) in wire transfers to India in 1999.

However if the men, both from Hyderabad, were would-be hijackers it is not clear why they did not seize their plane. Also, they were on a TWA flight from Newark and knives were reportedly found hidden on a Continental airliner.

Neither man is cooperating with investigators, nor is Moussaoui. The identity of the other hijackers still at large is a mystery, an intelligencesource in the US said.

"In some cases they don't even have any names. In other cases they are not sure of the right spellings for the Arabic," the source said. "The search through the INS (Immigration and Naturalisation Service) records is turning out to be a nightmarish experience. It goes back months or years."

The FBI on Thursday warned of fresh attacks in the next "several days" but gave no details about targets.


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1 posted on 10/12/2001 6:45:11 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Give me one hour with the punk who is "not cooperating" and I'll ensure he sings like a canary.
2 posted on 10/12/2001 6:48:17 PM PDT by irish_lad
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To: irish_lad
Well, my bet is that Mossad would make them talk and it is legal there to torture people. I say torture them with an all pork diet and pics of sexy women.
3 posted on 10/12/2001 6:51:04 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: irish_lad
A few well placed box cutter cuts will ensure these cowards live and are placed in the "general population" of our nations worst prisons. 72 virgins can not be worth life with bubba.
4 posted on 10/12/2001 6:54:46 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: cajungirl
Seriously, this is war. Make them talk, make them beg to talk.
5 posted on 10/12/2001 6:57:31 PM PDT by prov1813man
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To: irish_lad
Do you know how a terrorist and a cue ball are similar? The harder you hit them, the more English you get out of them.
6 posted on 10/12/2001 7:05:23 PM PDT by Mean Daddy
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To: Mean Daddy
It was obvious from the day of the attack that there were meant to be at least six hijackings.

The terrorists strove for balance and redundancy.

It was probably two for each target.

Money,

Military,

Leadership.

7 posted on 10/12/2001 7:11:45 PM PDT by nm_james
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To: Pokey78
I've posted this on other threads:

Have the French or the Moroccans "talk" to his mother.

Mother is 'convinced' to cooperate and calls sonny and begs him to tell the FBI everything.

We do nothing illegal but get results here.

8 posted on 10/12/2001 7:19:19 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: irish_lad
The Air Force trained me as an interrogator before they trained me as a pilot. I was DAMNED good at it (much to my childrens' chagrine later.....and to this day). Give me one day. Max.

As for the hijackers: I pity the fool that actually pulls a box cutter and tries to hijack an American airliner. The plane will land and they'll hose out his/their remains.

9 posted on 10/12/2001 7:24:43 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: aculeus
Surgically embed radio transmitters and then release them. Monitor them for awhile, then kill them along with a few others.
10 posted on 10/12/2001 7:29:35 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: Pokey78
If the FBI is correct that only the pilots knew of the "suicide" nature of the missions, then eight of these ten missing terrorists have learned that they were set up.

If I were they, I'd be furious at bin Laden and Al Qaeda for the betrayal, and I'd be even more furious at the two pilots who knew the others were supposed to die and didn't tell them.

11 posted on 10/12/2001 7:39:33 PM PDT by T'wit
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To: tsomer
Surgically embed radio transmitters and then release them.

That's a hell of a good idea.

12 posted on 10/12/2001 7:40:40 PM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: Pokey78
More confirmation that members of the group worked for airport food services and the like, and had access that completely by-passed security. This stuff wasn't taped there by the hijackers themselves, but by their associates working on the inside--as early stories about Logan pretty clearly indicated.
13 posted on 10/12/2001 8:15:20 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Pokey78
NOT COOPERATING??!!??!! THIS IS WAR!!!! DRUG THEM..sorry..no time for "miranda rights"..shoot them up with sodium pentathol or whatever they have to make them tell the truth..
14 posted on 10/12/2001 8:19:37 PM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: Pokey78
or anyone:
Anybody figure out why they needed the hair dye? To go blond?
15 posted on 10/12/2001 8:20:43 PM PDT by ScholarWarrior
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To: Pokey78
So if the knives were planted on the planes, why did Atta go buy some at Wal-Mart the night before? Seems a little odd to me.
17 posted on 10/13/2001 12:09:31 AM PDT by cryptical
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To: cryptical
So if the knives were planted on the planes, why did Atta go buy some at Wal-Mart the night before? Seems a little odd to me.

Belt and suspenders.

18 posted on 10/13/2001 5:59:15 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: Pokey78
However if the men, both from Hyderabad, were would-be hijackers it is not clear why they did not seize their plane...

Speculating, but perhaps there should have been a couple other cohorts on the plane who somehow never made it. The other flights had 4 or 5 on each. If there were only 2 on this flight, then they may have been understaffed.

19 posted on 10/13/2001 10:48:50 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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