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Reconsidering Saudi Arabia
New York Times ^ | Oct 14, 2001 | Editorial

Posted on 10/14/2001 4:46:38 AM PDT by The Raven

Reconsidering Saudi Arabia



October 14, 2001

Reconsidering Saudi Arabia

Moments of international crisis have a way of stripping away diplomatic facades and exposing uncomfortable truths. One of the disturbing realities clarified by last month's terror attacks is Saudi Arabia's tolerance for terrorism. Students of America's deeply cynical relationship with Riyadh have long known that the kingdom did little to discourage Islamic extremists, as long as they operated outside its borders, and that Washington muted its objections to keep oil flowing to the West. It is now clear that the Saudi behavior was more malignant. With Riyadh's acquiescence, money and manpower from Saudi Arabia helped create and sustain Osama bin Laden's terrorist organization.

Over the decades, the United States and Saudi Arabia have benefited from the cold-blooded bargain at the core of their relationship. America got the oil to run its economy and Saudi Arabia got the protection of American military might whenever the kingdom was threatened by its violent neighbors, including Iraq and Iran. Now, as international affairs are reordered in the wake of the terror attacks, it is time for American and Saudi leaders to see if they can fashion a healthier relationship that still serves the interests of both countries but with greater frankness and honesty than in the past.

The Saudi royal family can begin that process by looking unblinkingly at its passive attitude toward terrorism. Osama bin Laden happens to come from a wealthy Saudi family, but that is not the issue. The problem is Saudi Arabia's tangible connections to Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.

Until recent weeks, Saudi Arabia was one of the two critical sponsors of Afghanistan's ruling Taliban movement, along with Pakistan. Saudi money, religious teachings and diplomats helped the Taliban secure and keep control of Afghanistan. The country was then used to provide sanctuary and training camps for the bin Laden network. Saudi Arabia has also sponsored the fundamentalist academies known as madrassas in Pakistan. Many graduates of these madrassas have headed straight to Afghanistan, some to bin Laden training camps.

The Saudi government has allowed Saudi-based Muslim charitable organizations to funnel money to Al Qaeda and its terrorist network. On Friday, Washington moved against a prominent Saudi businessman said to be involved in these transfers. Since Sept. 11, Riyadh has refused pleas from Washington to freeze Mr. bin Laden's assets and those of his associates. Of the 19 hijackers who carried out last month's attacks, at least 10 were Saudi nationals. Riyadh has so far refused to cooperate fully with Washington's investigations of hijacking suspects. It has also barred Washington from using Saudi air bases to launch attacks against Afghanistan.

This is hardly the performance Americans expect from a country that is nominally its closest ally in the Persian Gulf region. It reflects the powerful tensions in Saudi society between the absolute rule of its worldly and Western-aligned royal family and the Islamic puritanism of the officially sanctioned Wahhabi sect on which the monarchy's legitimacy is built. In a closed political system, the only available outlet for criticism of government policies and corruption is Islamic fundamentalism. For some, that path has led to Pakistan and Afghanistan. For a small minority, it has led to terrorism and Al Qaeda.

Washington's embrace of the Saudi royal family dates back to the era of Franklin Roosevelt. It has always been primarily about oil, but other factors have played a role, including Saudi investments in American Treasury bonds and the purchase of expensive American weapons systems. Since the 1990 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia has given American military forces limited access to its bases. Until now, the stream of Saudi oil and money has all but silenced serious American criticism of the royal family's pervasive corruption, its contempt for democracy and the appalling human rights abuses carried out in its name.

There is no simple way to refashion this unsound relationship. The demise of the Saudi monarchy could well lead to the installation of an anti- Western fundamentalist theocracy like that in Iran. Nor can America and its allies abruptly close the Saudi oil spigot. Still, reforms are possible. The royal family has a self-interest in making Saudi Arabia more democratic to ease political pressures that now drive some Saudis to extremist groups and could eventually destabilize the kingdom itself. The monarchy should crack down on its own corruption and do a better job of distributing the nation's wealth so that economic inequities do not generate new legions of terrorists. Saudi temporizing on matters like freezing the assets of terrorist groups and their supporters must end immediately.

Washington's evasions need to cease as well. Pretending that Saudi Arabia is not a source of support for terrorism only invites further trouble. Muting criticism of corruption and political repression in the kingdom simply encourages these destructive habits. Over the longer term, the United States should be trying to develop alternative, environmentally sound sources of energy so that Western reliance on Saudi oil is reduced.

Decades of equivocation and Hobbesian calculations have left American relations with Saudi Arabia in an untenable and unreliable state. The deformities must be honestly addressed before they do further damage to both nations.

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Yesterday I had the misfortune of chatting with several liberals (still in denial). They were on the "root causes" bandwagon.

If there's one way to "push my buttons" it's this "root causes" hysteria that's sweeping the camps of the apologists.

Trouble is -- their root causes didn't fit the rich, educated, Saudi Arabian.

I, of course, said things I shouldn't have. Along the lines of ..... "THE ROOT CAUSE is the governments and the religion, and we have to change them. Who's better dead, them or us?"

1 posted on 10/14/2001 4:46:38 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
From what little evidence we have I would say that Saudi Arabia is more to blame for 911 than Afghanistan is; however, they are untouchable.
2 posted on 10/14/2001 4:52:47 AM PDT by Ada Coddington
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To: The Raven
>> The demise of the Saudi monarchy could well lead to the installation of an anti- Western fundamentalist theocracy like that in Iran. Nor can America and its allies abruptly close the Saudi oil spigot<<

I think it is a given that in the course of this war, and probably sooner than later, that we are going to lose access to Saudi oil. We should be planning on this highly likely contingency.

The House of Saud is doomed, and I think it is foolish to be committed to the present borders of "Saudi" Arabia in the long term. A reorganized and democratic Arabia is the long-term answer, probably including Baghdad and Basra (but not Mosul), Amman and Damascus, but with the Hejaz independent and possibly under the supervision of Turkey.

Nevertheless, it is criminally negligent that we do not have advanced planning for energy self-sufficiency in place.

3 posted on 10/14/2001 4:57:03 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
This sound nice, "A reorganized and democratic Arabia is the long-term answer," but Saudi Arabia because it is the home of Mecca and Medina is one of the most Xenophobic countries in the world. Now if you want to talk root causes we can start with that. I don't see how you put a democratic state in there, but, I am sure that many there would like to reorganize in more in lines with the Koran.
4 posted on 10/14/2001 5:03:02 AM PDT by prometheus
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To: prometheus
As I said in my post, the old Ottoman province of Hejaz (which contains Mecca and Medina) does not belong to the Arabians alone, and must either be internationalized or returned to Turkey.
5 posted on 10/14/2001 5:09:41 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
How many successful and democratic Arab/Mid East states have existed in the last 50 years? The silence is deafening, this will be a tough nut to crack.
6 posted on 10/14/2001 5:13:18 AM PDT by Ricktex43
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To: The Raven
One of the disturbing realities clarified by last month's terror attacks is Saudi Arabia's tolerance for terrorism.

*WHY* is the New York Slimes -- the first in the Blame America Corner and the dedicated enemies of democracy and capitalism -- why are THEY saying something truthful and beneficial to know?

Pravda-on-the-Hudson has never cared a whit about journalistic integrity or good investigative reporting prior to this, so I must ask the question: How do the Saudis jeopardize One-World-Socialism, gun control, or special 'gay rights'? How'd they piss off the New York Slimes?

7 posted on 10/14/2001 5:14:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Ada Coddington
Why are they untouchable? The House of Saud is in a precarious state. Any successor state would always sell oil to the West. What else would they live on?

Recall that while American dependence on Middle Eastern oil is great, European and Japanese dependence is total. They would support any American action to secure oil supply, and that would apply to any successor government to the House of Saud.

The United States shouldn't care who runs Saudi Arabia, as long as that government doesn't make external trouble and suppresses terrorist movements. The Saudis are showing great reluctance behave responsibly. What they have done instead is up production: gas prices have just tumbled. In effect, they are bribing the West. But if President Bush plays his cards right he can force the Sauds into line or into exile and he is following a sequence so that when it becomes time to confront the Saudis, he will have all the hole cards.

Remember that the next big oil source will be Central Asia. The alliance with Russia and the cleanup of the 'stans will mean that Saudi leverage will be correspondingly reduced. This is geopolitics on a titanic scale.
8 posted on 10/14/2001 5:16:45 AM PDT by wretchard
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To: Jim Noble
and must either be internationalized or returned to Turkey.

Doubtful that will happen and is a solution that still doesn't address the Xenophobia issues about Medina or Mecca.

9 posted on 10/14/2001 5:18:34 AM PDT by prometheus
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To: The Raven
What this article doesn't say is that during the Carter and Regan administrations it was the US policy to work with Saudi Arabia to foster Islamic fundamentalism in Afghanistan with Pakistan as its forward base. Osama worked for the CIA during this time.

During the elder Bush and Clinton administrations, this policy still continued with the object of encouraging Islamic fundamentalism in the Balkans, Caucasus, and Central Asia as a way to destabilize Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States. It is only gradually and with what seems to be great ambivalence that the policy shifted.

The Clinton/Albright policy seemed to be that Iraqi, Iranian and Syrian terrorists were bad, but Saudi, Yemeni, Pakistani, Afghan and Chechnya terrorists were good -- a morally bankrupt evolution of the fundamentally corrupt real-politik policy of their predecessors.

10 posted on 10/14/2001 5:21:48 AM PDT by Lessismore
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To: prometheus
The House of Saud is concerned solely with its survival and the aid to the fundamentalists is in the nature of the protection so effectively conducted by the Mafia in this country. Covert activity made to look like the work of the fundamentalists could cause the House of Saud to get off the fence. The House of Saud must know their future under a fundamentalist regime is nil and, thus, they would be forced to act against the fundamentalists.
11 posted on 10/14/2001 5:24:10 AM PDT by monocle
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To: Lazamataz
How'd they piss off the New York Slimes?

Maybe their anthrax scare last week re-introduced some of their writers to reality.

12 posted on 10/14/2001 5:24:51 AM PDT by John Farson
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To: wretchard
Remember that the next big oil source will be Central Asia.

Remember that the deal is that Riyadh controls production and Washington and London control refining and marketing.

Only Central Asia has the "elephant fields" with reserves big enough to threaten this arrangement. Therefore, if Islamic fundamentalism could be used as a tool to subvert the Central Asian states, Saudi control could be extended and the arrangement would live on.

Otherwise, even the huge Saudi fields are reaching mid-life and their production is at about its peak. Saudi control will wane over the next decade or two, and control of oil production will shift to whoever controls the Caspian basin.

13 posted on 10/14/2001 5:39:11 AM PDT by Lessismore
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To: monocle
The threat to the House of Saud isn't only from the Wahhabi. It also comes from within the House. Remember that King Faisal al Saud, who became King when his brother Abdul failed with his economic problems, was assassinated by his nephew. Paying blood money to keep the assassins at bay is an old practice in Arabia. The House of Saud has a lot of money. Saudi Arabia has had a rocky relationship with the West, and still does.
14 posted on 10/14/2001 5:44:31 AM PDT by prometheus
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To: Lessismore
There is no way that Saudi Arabia will control the production in Central Asia. It does not have even the remotest historical connection to the area, except through the tenuous umbrella of "Islam". It's control over production in its own fields is based on sovereign control. It has no indigenous drilling technology.

The Central Asian countries will control the production, the West will control the marketing and refining and Saudi Arabia will find itself slated for Phase N of the anti-terrorist campaign.
15 posted on 10/14/2001 5:47:58 AM PDT by wretchard
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To: prometheus
My point is that the Saudis are acting like Bill Clinton trying to have it both ways. Actions should be initiated to force a decisive more on their part. Do you have any doubts that if the House of Saud felt threatened from within they would not against all potential enemies?
16 posted on 10/14/2001 6:10:38 AM PDT by monocle
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To: The Raven
Regarding Saudi Arabia, " You are with us or you are against us". If we can't use the Airstrip in Saudi Arabia, Might as well BOMB IT. People are saying they had a hand in supporting the terrorists with hundreds of millions of dollars. Maybe we freeze their money, I bet its a lot...
17 posted on 10/14/2001 6:17:41 AM PDT by chatham
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To: Ada Coddington
From what little evidence we have I would say that Saudi Arabia is more to blame for 911 than Afghanistan is; however, they are untouchable.

The main center of the most virulent type of Islam - Wahabitism was put in power in Saudi Arabia and protected by the British and by the United States. Wahabites are behind Chechnya extremists, are active in Balkans and are linked with Taleban. On the other hand Iraqi and Syrian regimes are quite secular and Christians in those two countries are not much discriminated. Even in Iran Christians can worship and live while in Saudi Arabia even private worship can end up in prison, torture and death.

Without this essential truth being taking into account we cannot understand what is really going on. But closer relations with progressive regimes (progressive is a good thing sometimes) are not possible since America is a hostage to the oil demand, Israel short sighted supporters and russophobe fanatics like Brzezinski (Caucasus, Balkans, Central Asia and all this Big Game crap).

18 posted on 10/14/2001 6:26:21 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: prometheus
The quickest way to get Saudi Arabia's attention is to freeze billions of dollars in assets tied to families and contributors of Bin Ladens. Throw in a few princes in the pile for good measure and suddenly we have their undivided attention.
19 posted on 10/14/2001 6:35:27 AM PDT by Ranger
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To: wretchard
The Saudi Wahhabi sect is a puritanical attempt to return to the Islam of the 7th Century. In the 7th century, a small number of Arab Islamic fundamentalists conquered the civilized world across North Africa, the Middle East, and Persia.

I think that they believed that with the US backing and with Pakistan and Afghanistan as a base they really could control Central Asia. After all, we have been backing the Saudis since the meetings with FDR during WW II. And they control OPEC, which was set up by Kissinger to funnel more oil revenues into the Middle East to defend against the Soviet Union (especially to increase the Shah's revenues so that he could buy more US weapons for Iran).

Note that bin Laden has similarly grand visions, except in his case it is to achieve an Islamic fundamentalist revolution from Morrocco to Indonesia, win a jihad against the US and erase Israel from the earth.

You can think big if God is on your side.

20 posted on 10/14/2001 6:37:48 AM PDT by Lessismore
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