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Children 'horrified' by pro-life talk
The Telegram ^ | 10/12/01 | CRAIG JACKSON

Posted on 10/14/2001 1:05:25 PM PDT by concerned about politics

Children 'horrified' by pro-life talk

Some parents of Leary’s Brook junior high students in St. John’s were “horrified” this week to learn their children were subjected to a one-sided presentation by members of the pro-life movement.

The concerned parents, who plan to send a letter expressing their concerns to Avalon East School Board director Brian Shortall, are appalled to learn the school did not review the material prior to the presentation.

Further, the school didn’t ask for parental permission for the children to attend the 90-minute afternoon session. Some parents are equally disgusted about the manner in which John and Gaetanne Hetherington of Longueuil, Que., described an abortion to the grades 7-9 children — 11- to 14-year-olds.

Parents claim the pro-lifers told their children that when abortions occur, the fetus is turned in the womb so that the feet are delivered first. That physicians then reach in, cut the head from the neck and suck the brain out.

Some children placed their hands over their ears while others were reduced to tears by what they heard, a parent said, noting the presenters also showed the students a model of a fetus.

“My son was so horrified and gripped by this story that I don’t think he can get it out of his mind,” a mother said Thursday.

The woman agrees children have to learn the facts of life at some point, “but they do not need to be exposed to what is in fact fear-mongering.”

The presentation on how an abortion takes place isn’t factual, she said.

“This was clearly not appropriate, nor was it fair, nor was it objective, nor did it consider medical, moral, or legal realities in this country.”

Another parent said she was flabbergasted to hear her child associate the word “murder” with abortions. This goes well beyond whether someone is pro-life or not, she said.

She’s also annoyed the pro-life supporters got into the school without any review of the material.

“We are apologizing, we’re accepting full responsibility, we share parents’ concerns that this presentation was not appropriate, (and) a letter of apology is going home to all parents today from the principal of the school,” said Mary Tucker, the school board’s manager of communications.

The board and school officials also plan to take some corrective action to deal with it. If it’s necessary for followup instruction with the students from qualified people, such as a public health nurse or medical professional, it will be done, she said.

The board will also ensure that information being presented to children in the future is “age-appropriate, tasteful and balanced,” she said.

Tucker said material brought into the schools must be reviewed and sanctioned by the board and must be linked to the curriculum.

Tuesday’s presentation was not a well-rounded discussion as was expected, school officials claim, adding the Hetheringtons planned to focus on abortion, drugs, alcohol, leadership and values.

But many admit the afternoon session went off course when the floor was opened up to a question-and-answer session between the Hetheringtons and the students.

So who are the Hetheringtons?

They were in contact with the school before the end of the 2000-2001 school year about making a presentation. School staff claim the couple showed up Tuesday out of the blue from Quebec and wanted to do a presentation.

A parent said school officials could have easily found out about the Hetheringtons using the Internet.

The 100 Huntley Street page clearly shows that the couple appeared on its Sept. 6 show.

They attend Eglise Nouvelle Vie in Longueuil (the New Life Church). The Web site goes on to say “John is an abortion survivor and musician, and Gaetanne, a broadcast journalist.”

It says the couple returned to their Quebec roots “to be planted there in answer to God’s call on their lives, which is to bring the message of revival and the promised harvest of souls through the repentance for the sin of abortion.”

They have spoken to more than 300 churches and schools.

Some parents, meanwhile, have raised concerns to the Newfoundland and Labrador Human Rights Association about Tuesday’s presentation.

‘One-sided’

Jerry Vink, the association’s executive director, said the issue does raise questions of human rights.

The Rights of the Child, which was enacted by both the Government of Canada and United Nations, speaks to the appropriateness of education, including “the development of respect for the child’s parents.”

“In human rights one of the things that we recognize is the education of a child should involve the parents and they should be aware of what goes on in the school,” Vink said.

Vink said the activities, which occurred Tuesday, did not — in his opinion — present a message of understanding, peace and tolerance as identified in the Rights of the Child.

“It’s the kind of one-sided, biased views that have no place in the educational process,” he said.

The Telegram could not reach the Hetheringtons Thursday.


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The schools have been teaching the pro-death propaganda for so long, the parents, and their children, were horrafied when told the truth.

I think it should be offered in every school in the country.

If they can teach pro-death, it's only right they teach pro-life, otherwise it really is one sided!

1 posted on 10/14/2001 1:05:25 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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PS....If anyone has an E-Mail for this school, it would be great to write them and praise them for teaching BOTH sides of the issue, no matter how horrifying the truth really is.

People need to know!

2 posted on 10/14/2001 1:08:47 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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Wait a minute!

They don't understand our horror at teaching 8th graders about fisting, but they are horrified at this? Well, HOW does it feel???!!!

3 posted on 10/14/2001 1:09:37 PM PDT by FrogMom
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Just think of the level of outrage that would have been seen if abortion were illegal and a pro-choice group was given this captive audience. Be civil now...
4 posted on 10/14/2001 1:09:49 PM PDT by spanky_mcfarland
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“My son was so horrified and gripped by this story that I don’t think he can get it out of his mind,” a mother said Thursday.

As it should be...

FMCDH

5 posted on 10/14/2001 1:14:00 PM PDT by nothingnew
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To: concerned about politics
“My son was so horrified and gripped by this story that I don’t think he can get it out of his mind,” a mother said Thursday. The woman agrees children have to learn the facts of life at some point, “but they do not need to be exposed to what is in fact fear-mongering.”

This mother seems to be afraid that this "horrified" her son so badly that he may never be able to commit abortion. Poor little boy.

6 posted on 10/14/2001 1:14:16 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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The truth is ugly isn't it. If I had to see it it would probably give me nightmares, and I have seen some pretty ugly stuff. The extent of the evil in Nazi Germany was never fully realized by the German people untill they were forcibly marched into the death camps and made to look into the pits at what they had done.

A little bit of ugly is good for everyone sometimes.

7 posted on 10/14/2001 1:16:14 PM PDT by america76
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The real story: Day after day, month after month, semester after semester, year after year these kids are brainwashed by the socialists with absolutely no expressed parental concern. Those who are concerned home school. The rest have surrendered their kids to the socialists.
8 posted on 10/14/2001 1:16:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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Just think of the level of outrage that would have been seen if abortion were illegal and a pro-choice group was given this captive audience. Be civil now...

OK. Make it illegal, and we won't complain. Fair?

Pro-death has always been givin a captive audience. Shouldn't it be "civil" to show the other side as well? After all, we're talking about cutting the neck and sucking an infants brain out.

9 posted on 10/14/2001 1:17:04 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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Some one enlighten me. What, exactly, are the medical justifications for partial birth abortions? Is is simply a lawyer trick to avoid the law?

Obviously, if the birth is 'complete', you can't abort it without angering the courts.

What about if the birth has not started? Is there a law that applies to "not yet started birth abortions", but not to "partial birth abortions"?

I don't know how people can sleep after holding a baby and sucking it's brains out.

10 posted on 10/14/2001 1:17:06 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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Some one enlighten me. What, exactly, are the medical justifications for partial birth abortions? Is is simply a lawyer trick to avoid the law?
Choice.

Obviously, if the birth is 'complete', you can't abort it without angering the courts.
It can't be allowed to live if it does survive long enough to get out of the canal. It is set aside to die. Some have struggled for air for up to eight hours. End of story.

What about if the birth has not started? Is there a law that applies to "not yet started birth abortions", but not to "partial birth abortions"?
Chemically Induced labor.

I don't know how people can sleep after holding a baby and sucking it's brains out.
Pro-death. It means nothing to them. It could save a tree someday.

11 posted on 10/14/2001 1:24:23 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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Shouldn't it be "civil" to show the other side as well? You are most certainly correct...just not in a public school supported by my tax dollars!
12 posted on 10/14/2001 1:25:13 PM PDT by spanky_mcfarland
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"Some one enlighten me. What, exactly, are the medical justifications for partial birth abortions? Is is simply a lawyer trick to avoid the law?"

There has neve been ONE compelling reason for a partial birth abortion. What can be so compelling about going through the process and labor of delivery, and then STOPPING the delivery long enough to murder the baby before it's head is delivered? Common sense dictates that there can be no medical justification for this.

13 posted on 10/14/2001 1:25:29 PM PDT by joathome
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The United States and Canada must repent of all of the abortions that have been committed. If the abortions continue, innocent blood will continue cry to heaven, and America and Canada will pass into the history or mythology of humanity.
14 posted on 10/14/2001 1:25:54 PM PDT by father_elijah
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The United States and Canada must repent of all of the abortions that have been committed. If the abortions continue, innocent blood will continue to cry to heaven, and America and Canada will pass into the history or mythology of humanity.
15 posted on 10/14/2001 1:26:49 PM PDT by father_elijah
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We must ask first for forgiveness for the greatest number of innocent deaths that the world has ever seen and then change our laws back to pre Roe v Wade. A physician has a duty to do no harm. A politician has a duty to serve all -- born and unborn.A citizen has the duty to publicly witness and be a voice for those who have none.
16 posted on 10/14/2001 1:41:34 PM PDT by victim soul
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Beautifully said. Amen.
17 posted on 10/14/2001 1:43:34 PM PDT by father_elijah
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To: joathome
Ditto my Friend.

Nothing in fact or fiction is as horrible as Partial Birth Abortion. No script in Hollywood could be so grusum.

18 posted on 10/14/2001 1:44:24 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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I don't understand the problem.
When the children are told a lie, the parents are giddy.
When the children are givin the truth, the parents are outraged.
Could it be the parents were really the ones who were shocked to find out what abortions really are and can't deal with the reality themselves?
19 posted on 10/14/2001 1:46:17 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Victoria Delsoul; 2sheep
ping
20 posted on 10/14/2001 1:48:50 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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