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Activist resists FBI questioning **Berkeley Barf Alert**
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 10-15-01 | KAREN DE SÁ

Posted on 10/15/2001 4:03:25 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Mercury News

A Bay Area peace activist is resisting the FBI's efforts to question her about her associations with Middle Easterners, saying their inquiry is an assault on her civil rights.

Kate Raphael of Berkeley says the FBI wants to talk to her about her involvement with the international anti-war group Women in Black, which holds weekly silent vigils to protest what they call the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands.

The mainly Jewish group dresses in black and holds banners on street corners in San Francisco, Berkeley, Palo Alto and around the world. Women in Black chapters in Israel and Serbia were nominated for this year's Nobel Peace Prize.

Since Sept. 24, Raphael and her attorney, Rachel Lederman, have been trading calls with the FBI. The agency, Raphael said, apparently wants to ask her about any ``Middle East connections'' she has developed as a result of her peace work.

Raphael and Lederman said a San Francisco agent has told them that Raphael can expect a grand jury subpoena for her failure to cooperate.

FBI spokesman Andrew Black would not confirm or deny that the agency was trying to talk to Raphael. But he did say that in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, agents are working ``aggressively but professionally.''

``The FBI has a responsibility to investigate the ruthless murder of nearly 6,000 individuals and we need the cooperation and assistance of the public in order to bring those responsible for planning this attack to justice,'' Black said.

Raphael's activism dates back to her high school days in Richmond, Va. As editor of the Thomas Jefferson High newspaper, she protested military recruiting ads. In the Bay Area, Raphael, 42, works with a small grass roots group called Lesbian and Gay Insurrection. She has escorted women into abortion clinics and done rape crisis counseling. Since Sept. 11, Raphael has helped set up a program that provides escorts to people of Middle Eastern descent who fear they could become victims of an anti-Muslim backlash.

Raphael finds it ironic that the FBI wants to talk to her.

``It's certainly possible,'' she said, ``that the FBI don't understand the difference between a lesbian peace activist and Islamic fundamentalist men who crash planes into buildings. But that's a sad statement about our government.''

Members of Bay Area Women in Black said they worry that security concerns are starting to erode First Amendment freedoms.

``People are afraid of anthrax and retaliation and biological warfare, but what frightens me the most right now is that our civil liberties are going to be seriously curtailed,'' said 74-year-old activist Rachelle Marshall, who has protested each Friday since 1988 in downtown Palo Alto.

But others say the FBI can't be too careful these days.

Abraham Sofaer, a senior fellow with the Hoover Institution and a former federal judge and prosecutor, said if Raphael is subpoenaed, she should respond to the grand jury.

Although she's ``not a likely candidate for alliance with the Taliban,'' Sofaer said, Raphael has a duty ``as a citizen and as a national of the U.S. to answer those questions. And if she believes this is a political dragnet, she can go to the court and say that.''


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Stupid is as stupid does.
1 posted on 10/15/2001 4:03:25 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Nitro
So you advocate torture of people who don't willingly spill their guts to the FBI?
3 posted on 10/15/2001 4:08:34 AM PDT by dbbeebs
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To: dbbeebs
If you aren't with us, you're with the terrorists!
4 posted on 10/15/2001 4:10:47 AM PDT by airborne
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To: dbbeebs
The woman is a professional victim generator. She couldn't even get a soda from a vending machine without some sort of leftist network providing counseling.
5 posted on 10/15/2001 4:12:19 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: dbbeebs
What would the Taliban do to this woman if she was caught with her girlfriend?
6 posted on 10/15/2001 4:14:57 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: dbbeebs
Just a little bit!!
7 posted on 10/15/2001 4:16:39 AM PDT by Nitro
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Stick to the emotions please. No facts here. The leftist liberal agenda is running on such an empty tank, it is trying to run on dribble. Let's just let it sputter for the sake of entertainment.
8 posted on 10/15/2001 4:18:19 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I was reading about Terrorist cells targeted in California earlier this morning. Too bad her adolescent rebellion may cost her the lives of some of her peace activist friends...
9 posted on 10/15/2001 4:21:58 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: airborne
If you aren't with us, you're with the terrorists!

No, I don't advocate torture of suspects, especially suspects who are hesitant to speak
with the FBI on advice of counsel. We have a right not to speak to the police, right?

Sheesh, people.

10 posted on 10/15/2001 4:22:19 AM PDT by dbbeebs
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Ya know, not everything is about being a victim when you are gay, lesbian, transgendered, liberal, female, etc... Sometimes decent people trying to protect the sheeples need your assistance. She should save her bitchin for real issues. Why are these people insistant that everything is about them?
12 posted on 10/15/2001 4:25:48 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: dbbeebs
Under the current circumstances a reluctance to share info with the FBI indicates guilt. Yes, you do have the right to refuse cooperation but as an American you also have a responsibility to participate in the defense of the country!

As far as the torture thing goes, I was about 90% kidding!!

13 posted on 10/15/2001 4:34:26 AM PDT by Nitro
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To: dbbeebs
The woman has a responsibility as a citizen to answer questions that might be helpful to our effort to root out the terrorists in our midst. If she feels that something she is asked might incriminate her, she can take the fifth.

But she has an obligation to answer the questions anyway. They won't "beat" her, but she could end up in a cell, for contempt of court.

You can't pick and choose what rules you will follow. You can only help influence what rules exist.

14 posted on 10/15/2001 4:46:12 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Sounds to me like this person's mental acuity hasn't progressed since high school. This isn't about her civil rights. It's about the FBI trying to prevent more deaths, possibly even her family members or someone she knows.

I sometimes get angry over what I feel are government abuses of civil rights, but what does this lady see as a problem here? Does she feel she owes the nation she lives in? Anything at all?

15 posted on 10/15/2001 5:03:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: dbbeebs
Terrorists are not immune to the geneva convention against torture of prisoners.
16 posted on 10/15/2001 5:06:35 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The FBI should tell her that she is correct. That they, the FBI, are violating her civil rights. And that they are going to further infringe upon her civil rights by keeping her in a Federal Prison until she talks or the war against terrorism is over.
17 posted on 10/15/2001 5:07:59 AM PDT by eFudd
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To: dbbeebs
Actually the notion that you have a right NOT to speak with the police is entirely false. The only time you may invoke your right not to speak with authorities is if you believe that you would give information that implicates you in a crime. Even then, if an appropriate authority (magistrate, judge etc.) offers immunity you may in fact be compelled, by law, to testify.
Example: Susan MacDougal, until pardoned by Clinton, was held indefinitely in jail under contempt violations issued by a SITTING JUDGE. (not Ken Starr for you lurkers, a prosecuter does NOT have the ability detain someone at will - see 'Habeus Corpus' for further explanation.) Her crime? Refusing to cooperate with authorities and refusing to give testimony in a federal case.
19 posted on 10/15/2001 5:20:34 AM PDT by BlueNgold
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