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Madison School Board braces for pledge night
Washington State Journal ^ | 10/15/01 | Doug Erickson Education reporter

Posted on 10/15/2001 7:45:24 AM PDT by Jean S

Hundreds of people are expected to descend on a 5 p.m. Monday meeting of the Madison School Board to register their opinions on a controversial policy regarding the Pledge of Allegiance.

In anticipation of big crowds, the district late last week moved the meeting from the Doyle Administration Building to the larger auditorium at Memorial High School, 201 S. Gammon Road, which seats about 800 people.

"I think we've become a lightning rod for a lot of frustration built up around the World Trade Center tragedy and terrorist attacks," said Calvin Williams, board president. "There's no place to focus all of that frustration and anger, so if you spot something perceived as unpatriotic, regardless of what the true issue is, people are reacting."

Williams was part of the 3-2 majority that voted last week to instruct schools to use only instrumental versions of the national anthem - not the pledge - as the way to comply with a new state patriotism law. That law requires all schools to offer either the pledge or anthem every day in grades one to 12. Students cannot be forced to participate.

Williams, Bill Keys and Carol Carstensen said their support of the motion was intended to reduce pressure on students uncomfortable with the pledge's "one nation under God" line or the lyrics of the anthem, which some object to as militaristic.

Ruth Robarts and Shwaw Vang voted against the motion, saying that while they shared some of their colleagues' concerns about the coercive nature of the state law, they preferred other ways to implement it. Ray Allen and Juan Jose Lopez were absent and say they do not support the board's decision.

The policy unleashed a national backlash, with the district receiving at least 18,000 e-mails and 2,000 phone calls as of Friday afternoon, said district spokesman Ken Syke.

Gov. Scott McCallum denounced the board as a group of "oddballs," and civic leaders said the city's reputation could be irreparably harmed.

"This has turned into a disaster," Allen said. "People have been calling us every name but the names our mothers gave us."

Allen said he'll push for a motion at Monday's meeting that requires the offering of the pledge in district schools.

But Keys, who authored the controversial policy last week, said he stands behind it and feels no anxiety over the criticism he may receive at the meeting.

"I firmly believe that I'm right, so therefore I'm not worried about it," he said.

Williams said security will be increased for the meeting, although he declined to specify how. "We have some zealous people on both sides of this issue," he said. "We're not expecting anything, but we don't want to have our heads in the sand."

During the public comment period, speakers are expected to each get three minutes, which is the traditional format for board meetings, said Superintendent Art Rainwater.

Depending on how many people sign up to speak, the time could be shortened if the board votes to do so, Syke said. "If they stay at three minutes, they can only hear about 20 per hour," he said.

State Journal staff writer Lisa Schuetz contributed to this report.


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1 posted on 10/15/2001 7:45:24 AM PDT by Jean S
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To: JeanS
Let themn be freeped mercilessly and relentlessly unto the ends of the earth and to the end of time.
2 posted on 10/15/2001 7:47:43 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: JeanS
Visit the Madison, Wisconsin Website. Their motto: "It's Just Like France, Only Closer"
3 posted on 10/15/2001 7:47:46 AM PDT by ventedpipe
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To: JeanS
The Madison School Board= Bucky Badger on CRACK! These people need to get a grip and brace for TONGUE LASHING! This should be a riot!!LOL!
4 posted on 10/15/2001 7:48:39 AM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: JeanS
"I think we've become a lightning rod for a lot of frustration built up around the World Trade Center tragedy and terrorist attacks," said Calvin Williams, board president. "There's no place to focus all of that frustration and anger, so if you spot something perceived as unpatriotic, regardless of what the true issue is, people are reacting."

This guy couldn't buy a clue if his pockets were stuffed with $20 bills.

Time for a recall, those of you in Madistan with any amount of sense remaining. Take back your city and the institution which "educates" your children!

5 posted on 10/15/2001 7:48:46 AM PDT by brewcrew
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"People have been calling us every name but the names our mothers gave us."

And some including your mother, no doubt.

6 posted on 10/15/2001 7:48:50 AM PDT by TomServo
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"We're not expecting anything, but we don't want to have our heads in the sand."
How about their heads on a stick?
7 posted on 10/15/2001 7:50:24 AM PDT by ScholarWarrior
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To: JeanS
This is a sign of how sad things have become in this country. To not allow the pledge of allegiance in schools because of the words "one nation under God." is ludicrous. This is the BEST way to state a complex idea. "God" can mean the Christian god, allah, or whatever deity an individual may worship. It is a very subjective term. Sounds to me like people just fear being a part of their country.
8 posted on 10/15/2001 7:52:04 AM PDT by RonKY
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To: JeanS
BUMP
9 posted on 10/15/2001 7:54:19 AM PDT by Aurelius
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To: JeanS
Hey Williams, if a kid doesn't want to say the pledge, let him be excused from participating. Kinda like the way students who are offended by 'diversity' assemblies can be excused. Oh, I forgot, diversity assemblies are mandatory.
10 posted on 10/15/2001 7:54:51 AM PDT by Northpaw
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To: JeanS
"I think we've become a lightning rod for a lot of frustration built up around the World Trade Center tragedy and terrorist attacks," said Calvin Williams, board president. "There's no place to focus all of that frustration and anger, so if you spot something perceived as unpatriotic, regardless of what the true issue is, people are reacting."

In other words, patriots are not only offensive, but stupid as well.

11 posted on 10/15/2001 7:56:08 AM PDT by Sloth
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"I firmly believe that I'm right, so therefore I'm not worried about it.....

he said, turning down the blindfold and cigarette."

12 posted on 10/15/2001 7:58:19 AM PDT by eddie willers
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New York Freeper

BUMP TO A GREAT FREEP

Think of the weekend these board people had! LOL

13 posted on 10/15/2001 8:00:13 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: JeanS
get government out of education;
get education out of government;
save us!
14 posted on 10/15/2001 8:00:37 AM PDT by Principled
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It was reported on Milwaukee radio this morning that they received 17,000 emails. Also, at one point their phone system went down but I don't remember how many calls they received.
15 posted on 10/15/2001 8:08:33 AM PDT by Jean S
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To: JeanS
During the public comment period, speakers are expected to each get three minutes, which is the traditional format for board meetings, said Superintendent Art Rainwater.

The pledge can be recited in an orderly and understandable fashion, in about 10 seconds or so. That would be at least 15 times in 3 minutes.

That's how I would use my 3 minutes, unless of course I could sing, in which case I would throw in one round of that "militaristic" old favorite "The Star Spangled Banner".

17 posted on 10/15/2001 8:13:18 AM PDT by erk
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To: RonKY
I wouldn't be bothered by "under God". It's the divisive inclusion of "one nation...indivisible" that would bother me.
18 posted on 10/15/2001 8:13:29 AM PDT by Aurelius
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To: JeanS
I live in Madison & the school board members that enacted this rubbish are pandering to a very, very small number of elitists with deep pockets and DO NOT represent the majority of voters in their respective wards.

This is not unlike the 'appropriation' by another group of stuckup, elitists of a big chunk of the downtown for the ARTS DISTRICT, most of whom applaud the school boards decision. Nevermind, that they drove out, intimidated, threatened, or 'condemned' perfectly functioning businesses that were enjoyed by an overwhelming majority of people who wished to enjoy them.

This is consistent behavior with those who like to think of themselves as Madison's upper crust. These same people caused the 'Monona Terrace' - a mass of concrete that replaced a great lakeside park anybody could enjoy with a parking ramp/convention center complete with guards, security cameras & visible foot patrols of police so the elites won't have to be annoyed by the presence of people belonging to the common ruck.

In short, the half-wits & former sixties 'activists' who have enacted that baloney so recently made famous (or infamous) most definitely DO NOT represent most of the fulltime, yearround residents of Madison, Wisconsin.

19 posted on 10/15/2001 8:14:05 AM PDT by NoClones
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To: JeanS
"I firmly believe that I'm right, so therefore I'm not worried about it," he said as he was thrown into a boxcar and sent on a long sabbatical by those who pay his salary.
20 posted on 10/15/2001 8:23:44 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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