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Islam, Christianity and tolerance: David Limbaugh decries attempts to misrepresent Gospel
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, October 16, 2001 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 10/15/2001 11:49:02 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

WND Exclusive Commentary
Fundamentalist Islam, Christianity and tolerance


© 2001 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

I sincerely don't want to start an argument over religion, especially in these sensitive times, but I feel compelled to defend the Christian faith so that it does not become "collateral damage" in our war on terrorism.

Because the terrorists who attacked America proceed from an extreme religious mindset, some are attempting to smear evangelical Christianity, which they see as similarly extreme and intolerant.

In a recent op-ed in the New York Times, political science professor Alan Wolfe quotes Osama bin Laden as saying there is only one God and that the whole world is split into two camps: belief and disbelief. "Osama bin Laden's words are chilling, not only because they threaten further terrorism, but also because they echo themes that have run through America's own religious history."

Wolfe cites examples of Christian intolerance in American history, but expresses his relief that America has now changed. We are still a religious society, he says, but no longer intolerant, except for extremists in the Christian right, typified by the favorite whipping boys, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. "To be sure, religious fundamentalists have prominent political presence even now. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, for example, are not averse to invoking a language of crusade in the political arena."

And Wolfe doesn't stop there, reminding us that there are plenty of other dangerous Christians where Robertson and Falwell come from. "There are, of course, American believers who evangelize, persuaded that those who do not believe as they do are destined for hell. Yet there are far more who believe that whatever their own path to God, other people will choose different paths that deserve respect."

Now, to the clincher: Wolfe says that the Taliban and bin Laden are at war with us because they believe in forcibly imposing their religion on others. So, he concludes, bin Laden is wrong when he says that this war is between belief and nonbelief. "It is instead about two different ways of believing, only one of which allows for individual conscience and freedom. The refusal of the other to make that allowance is what makes terrorism against nonbelievers possible."

Unless I'm misreading the professor, he is establishing moral equivalence between bin Laden's brand of Islam and Falwell's brand of Christianity, and suggesting they are equally extreme and dangerous. This is tantamount to saying that Biblical Christianity is intolerant, extreme and dangerous.

In case you're wondering, Wolfe is not alone in his assessment. His views are more widely held than you think, as evidenced by many e-mails I received after my last column. That's why so many regard Christianity with such visceral contempt and believe that Christians are fair game for ridicule and persecution.

Robertson and Falwell, as far as I know, have never urged America to convert other nations to Christianity by force. You may find offensive Falwell's comment that God has removed his hand of protection from America, but it was not a call to arms against other nations in the name of Christianity.

Contrary to the belief of some, evangelical Christians do not want a Christian theocracy in the United States, much less in the rest of the world. Most Christians are vigorous proponents of freedom. They fiercely support the First Amendment's Establishment clause – it was mostly Christians who adopted it – but they don't believe in extending it to absurd extremes.

I will not duck the fact that Christianity adheres to moral absolutes and is not tolerant of sinful behavior. But Christianity hates the sin, not the sinner. Tolerance doesn't require that we discard our moral standards. It also doesn't mean that we accept as true, opposing belief systems. It means "to recognize and respect others' beliefs without sharing them."

I will not deny that Christianity teaches that Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. But one of the best-kept secrets is that many other religions claim exclusivity as well. As to their respective exclusive claims, they can't all be true, unless you believe that contradictory things can be true simultaneously.

Without question, many Christians continue to evangelize, but they do so not out of disrespect for other religions, but from love and obedience. Jesus called on all Christians to spread the Gospel, but not by violent means. I want to say emphatically that Christianity respects other beliefs, and neither encourages nor condones discrimination or violence against non-Christians. It is unfortunate that so many have distorted these truths and impugned an absolutely loving religion.


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1 posted on 10/15/2001 11:49:02 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Because the terrorists who attacked America proceed from an extreme religious mindset, some are attempting to smear evangelical Christianity, which they see as similarly extreme and intolerant.

Mr. Limbaugh must read Free Republic.

2 posted on 10/15/2001 11:53:16 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: JohnHuang2
Osama's message was not "God vs. Not-God", it was explicitly Islam vs. Judaism + Christianity (+...). That is the part of his message most censored by the press. See what he actually said.
3 posted on 10/15/2001 11:54:09 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever
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To: JohnHuang2
Bump.
5 posted on 10/16/2001 12:04:11 AM PDT by tuesday afternoon
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To: AuntB; nunya bidness; GrandmaC; Washington_minuteman; tex-oma; buffyt; Grampa Dave...
Limbaugh ping
6 posted on 10/16/2001 12:10:32 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Great Article to read also:

"Will the Real Islam Please Stand Up
Stop telling me about Islam.
Shouldn't the media and talk shows hosts really be instructing 'wayward' Muslims
and their followers who have 'hijacked' Islam about the true meaning of the Koran and Islam.
I really don't care about their religion. Tell them about their religion!
Just tell the Muslims who have their Koran and the Prophets' message all wrong
that they have it backwards and inside out.
They seem to be the ones who need to understand the 'true' meaning of the Koran and Islam."

7 posted on 10/16/2001 12:24:30 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: EaglesUpForever
Osama's message was not "God vs. Not-God", it was explicitly Islam vs. Judaism + Christianity (+...).

The thing is, to Osama, Christians and Jews are infidels. The Koran calls Christians and Jews "unbelievers" since they do not accept Mohammad as a prophet. To the orthodox Muslim, you cannot be a legitimate believer in God if you reject Mohammad. Thus, to some Muslims, "Islam vs. Judaism & Christianity" is the same as "God vs. Not-God."

8 posted on 10/16/2001 12:31:08 AM PDT by Gelato
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To: JohnHuang2
It is unfortunate that so many have distorted these truths and impugned an absolutely loving religion."

We are undergoing the ultimate test. I pray that we will win.

9 posted on 10/16/2001 12:33:05 AM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: Rightwing Conspirator1
Hmmm...Bin Laden = Pat Robinson/Jerry Falwell?

Nope. I just can't recall the last time either of those two sent kamakazis crashing into Mecca or Medina, or even Kabul.
10 posted on 10/16/2001 12:33:23 AM PDT by VietVet
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To: Gelato
to some Muslims, "Islam vs. Judaism & Christianity" is the same as "God vs. Not-God."

Yes, and in turn some pundits and "scholars" in the west mistakenly translate this as Jerry Falwell+Osama vs. everyone else. Pathetic.

11 posted on 10/16/2001 12:36:05 AM PDT by EaglesUpForever
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To: EaglesUpForever
Very true.
12 posted on 10/16/2001 12:43:49 AM PDT by Gelato
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To: Rightwing Conspirator1
No, he must NOT read FR. Or he hasn't read the threads where our own religious intolerants post.
13 posted on 10/16/2001 1:54:49 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: JohnHuang2
Quote of the Day by jwalsh07
14 posted on 10/16/2001 4:38:38 AM PDT by RJayneJ
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To: JohnHuang2
Bttt.
15 posted on 10/16/2001 5:08:27 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: JohnHuang2
Let’s have a little test of tolerance:

Christian: “Since I and about 75% of the others in this school are Christians, I would like to begin the school day with a prayer. The prayer is voluntary and only those who wish to participate will pray.”

Atheist: “I don’t want to pray. Prayer as part of the class schedule is wrong. Having most of the class say a prayer when I don’t makes me uncomfortable. So you will stop. If you don’t stop, I will sue the school to force them to stop.”

Taliban: “You will pray five times a day, facing Mecca. Failure to do so will result in being whipped.”

Who is the most tolerant?

16 posted on 10/16/2001 5:12:47 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: nopardons

No, he must NOT read FR. Or he hasn't read the threads where our own religious intolerants post.

Your attitude regarding this so-called intolerance (which you refer to on Free Republic) is nothing more than what others have recognized as "freedom from all moral restraints". That is, the freedom to do any depraved and evil kinds of things without interference. This is the nature of the "accusation of intolerance" that you speak of. There is no validity to this kind of accusation, with regards to Christianity -- as there definitely is with Islam, it being an evil and false religion.

It's like David Limbaugh says, in that there is no moral equivalency of Christianity to Islam, in that regard.

You are only using "loaded words" (in light of the recent actions of a false and evil religion of Islam), and trying to falsely smear those loaded and charged words onto the righteousness of Christianity, offered by Christ and salvation therein.

You purposefully muddy the waters of "conviction and belief" -- which come from the words of the Bible, from the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob -- in which He says He will prove and vindicate His name in the end. And in the meantime, He offers the free gift (without coercion to anyone [i.e., no beheadings, no killings to force conversion, no force against "free will"]) of Salvation, through His Son Jesus Christ.

You do the same "work of evil", as the Islamics do. In that case, you work for the same "father" of that religion -- the one who spawned that evil religion. You simply work and engage in the same kind of deception and lies that the Islamics do. All who do so come from the same "father of lies" -- the one identified in the Bible as Satan and in opposition to God.

Unless you choose to accept (which is a free will choice on your part) the "free gift" which Jesus Christ offers, and believe in Him -- you will face the same Great White Throne Judgement that the Islamics do. You will face the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob on that day of judgement.


  Revelation 20:11-15 
      
  11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat 
     on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled 
     away. And there was found no place for them. 
      
  12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing 
     before God, and books were opened. And another book 
     was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead 
     were judged according to their works, by the things 
     which were written in the books. 
      
  13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and 
     Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in 
     them. And they were judged, each one according to 
     his works. 
      
  14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of 
     fire. This is the second death. 
      
  15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life 
     was cast into the lake of fire. 

And as it says, "anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire." That means if you have not accepted Christ as your Savior, you will be cast off and thrown into that lake of fire, eternally -- to be separated from God and all that is good -- by your own choice that you have made.

This is the difference of Christianity from Islam. In this you choose, and then you live with your choice from then on -- forever. Choose now and choose carefully. Your fate depends on it.

18 posted on 10/16/2001 5:24:58 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: JohnHuang2
Excellent. Thanks.
19 posted on 10/16/2001 6:19:04 AM PDT by b4its2late
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To: b4its2late
David Limbaugh's a refreshing, clear-headed writer -- a pleasure a read.
20 posted on 10/16/2001 6:28:29 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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