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Muslim Students Weigh Questions Of Allegiance- Potomac school teaching hate?
Washington Post ^
| 10/16/01
| Marc Fisher
Posted on 10/16/2001 5:40:22 AM PDT by vrwc54
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Is it reasonable to ask students at the Muslim Community School in Potomac whether there is a conflict between being an American and being a Muslim? It certainly seemed fair after six young people, all born in this country, all American citizens, told me that no, they did not believe that Osama bin Laden was necessarily the bad guy the president says he is, and no, they did not think the United States should be attacking Afghanistan, and, no, they might not be able to serve their country if it meant taking up arms against fellow Muslims.
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posted on
10/16/2001 5:40:22 AM PDT
by
vrwc54
To: vrwc54
My God..this?..in the Washington Post????..I'm gonna look out my window now to watch the pigs flying by...
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posted on
10/16/2001 5:48:33 AM PDT
by
ken5050
To: vrwc54
"If I had to choose sides, I'd stay with being Muslim," said eighth-grader Ibrahim. "Being an American means nothing to me.These are baby rattlesnakes growing up to be BIG ones.
To: vrwc54
More examples of the need to ship them ALL back to their respective muslim $hitholes!
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posted on
10/16/2001 5:50:02 AM PDT
by
Bill Rice
To: vrwc54
Being an American means nothing to me.
Nits make lice.
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To: vrwc54
Oh, how far we have strayed since there was genuine pride for being American, for immigrating to the great nation of Freedom and Opportunity.
Decline in personal responsibility, decline in work ethic, blurring of what's right and wrong, good and evil... such souls are lost to a life of misery, a life of spiraling introspective analysis yielding pseudo-intellectual conclusions, and self-ridicule.
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posted on
10/16/2001 5:55:41 AM PDT
by
RightlySo
To: BurkeCalhounDabney
I've had my coffee.
I'm usually a day late and a post short.
To: vrwc54
Interesting. Over the years, we Jewish Americans have frequently been confronted with challenges to our patriotism and questions about our "dual loyalties", etc. Yet I have never known an American Jew (other than the far-left types who ironically are the greatest opponents of Israel) to say that he was other than a proud, patriotic American.
Apparently the same cannot be said about at least some Muslim Americans.
To: ken5050
Hey, I watched Dan Rather last night: he was unusually hawkish. I guess the media's recent fan mail has got them pissed, too. (This, in the Post?)
As for the students in the article, perhaps a long field trip to Iran is in order.
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posted on
10/16/2001 6:01:37 AM PDT
by
dasboot
To: vrwc54
"What does it really mean to be an American?" asked seventh-grader Miriam. "Being American is just being born in this country." "If I had to choose sides, I'd stay with being Muslim," said eighth-grader Ibrahim.
"Being an American means nothing to me. I'm not even proud of telling my cousins in Pakistan that I'm American. Being an American means nothing to me."
Why then, for crying out loud, do these people stay here?
To: vrwc54
They will honor a 12 year old ALLEGEDLY killed by an Israeli bullet, but are silent to the humanity of those innocents killed by the June 21st disco bomber, as well as other inncocent people killed by suicide bombers.
This could be the scariest article I've read since 9/11. These are our fellow citizens talking. That the Muslim leaders obviously have lack the moral clarity to condemn in no uncertain terms those who committed the atrocities against their fellow citizens in the name of the God of Islam is absolutely chilling.
Now, will any of the liberals have the courage to call a hate crime for what it is?
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posted on
10/16/2001 6:06:18 AM PDT
by
exit82
To: vrwc54
Where is One_Particular_Harbour and all of those other apologists who have been telling us for weeks since 911 about how patriotic and pro-American Muslim/Arab "citizens" are? As more and more of these articles come out, you find the apologists less and less on the threads arguing against profiling and deporting immediately all non-citizens and careful checks against anyone making statements such as these.
Ah, well, I guess it's hard to be a terrorist apologist forever.
200 years from now, I want their children's children's children's children to cower and cringe in fear whenever they hear the sounds of jet engines overhead because their legends tell of fire from the sky.
I want them to hide in dark caves and holes in the earth, shivering with terror whenever they hear the roar of diesel engines because the tales of their ancestors talk about metal monsters crawling over the earth, spitting death and destruction.
I want their mothers to be able to admonish them with "If you don't behave, the Pale Destroyers will come for you", and that will be enough to reduce them to quivering obesience.
I want the annihilation to be so complete that their mythology will tell them of the day of judgment when the stern gods from across the sea .. the powerful 'Mericans .. destroyed their forefathers' wickedness.
Kill them all ... nits make lice.
Col Chivington (Sand Creek)
To: exit82
"...These are our fellow citizens talking." No exit82, these folks themselves say they were only born here. They aren't fellow citizens, they're traitors, through and through.
To: dasboot
The absolutely most amazing post 9-ll transformation without a doubt belongs to Thomas Friedman, the normally idiotic foreign affairs columnistbof the NY Times....I gave up reading him years ago.....I used to pour the coffee dregs on his colum..but after 9-11, I was reading the paper cover to cover.....the Times news coverage of the event is exceptional..and his column had be standing up and cheering..( well, almost)..and subsequent ones have been better...you'd think he was writing for the Weekly Standard....if you go to the Times achives...well worth the read..
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posted on
10/16/2001 6:15:17 AM PDT
by
ken5050
To: itsinthebag
"Being an American means nothing to me. I'm not even proud of telling my cousins in Pakistan that I'm American. Being an American means nothing to me." Why then, for crying out loud, do these people stay here?
Because they're teenagers and can't readily move to another country? And because their parents, however disloyal, aren't stupid, and know what side their bread is buttered on? They are well aware that the economic opportunity this country presents is vastly superior to what they could find in the miserable sinks from which they or their ancestors came.
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posted on
10/16/2001 6:15:57 AM PDT
by
Capriole
To: BlueLancer
I'm one of the former apologists. Flakes have fallen from my eyes. I now apologise for taking so long to catch up with the rest of you in recognizing the obvious.
On another matter, I just heard that Joe Leiberman is calling military engagment of Iraq. Seems the Libs are starting to leapfrog each other in the rhetoric of war. Are they really finally getting it, too? Or have they just put their finger in the air, and realized that they will miss the political bus if they don't start acting like Republicans?
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posted on
10/16/2001 6:19:30 AM PDT
by
dasboot
To: markfnkl
You got there first with thoughts I certainly share.Never once in my life was I told by anyone in my family or by friends that Jewish Americans should ever consider loyalty to any country but this.I know people who emigrated to Israel-they made their choice and as long as they want to live there,it's fine with me.You can't have a foot in two rowboats at once.I'm not surprised at Zogby's poll on Arab Americans-do you realize how many of them are Christians whose co-religionists have suffered massacres and discrimination by Moslems?This un-American and hateful stance is attributable to recent immigrants,often non-Arabs,and to followers of Louis Farrakhan.I have noticed that Black Muslim followers of Warith Deen Muhammad have been unfailingly patriotic Americans.Even Christian Arab Americans who may oppose our Israel policy have more to fear from Islamic extremists and they know it.
To: ken5050
When even the Washington Post lets something like this go to print, you KNOW we're in deep trouble. Just like the Democrats in Congress being solidly behind Bush for a whole month.
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