FGM: A cultural not a religious practice:

To correct some of the anti-Islam propaganda on this board.

A pediatrician who works in the Beta Israel community claims that they no do not practice FGM in Israel. Also, their daughters who were born in Ethiopia were not mutilated. 22

Genital ablation is predominent in muslim neighborhoods, sorry, this does not remove prejudice against ISlam.

Genital ablation is predominent in muslim neighborhoods, sorry, this does not remove prejudice against ISlam.

And don't forget about the male genital mutilation practiced by Islam. Instead of being done on the 8th day or just after birth, it is often practiced in mid to late childhood in elaborate ceremonies, the premium being placed on the boy being able to make it through the ordeal showing no signs of pain. Anyone who believes either of these mutilations has no effect on the child either in anticipation of the event or in retrospection is simply self-deluded. No doubt the practice on the male is a good part of the reason why a psychologist I knew said that most Arab Muslim males could be classed as clinically insane.

God help me - I used to believe that circumcision (?sp) was the expected thing to do and allowed all three of my boys to be mutilated. I am an American for many, many generations. It is indeed a traditional phenomenon and now that I know better, deeply regret the thing I allowed to be perpetrated on my children just after they were born. What could I have been thinking? Something done in the name of cleanliness was in reality a travesty.

most Arab Muslim males could be classed as clinically insane.

Islam is the most rapidly expanding major religion, due both to conversion and high Muslim birth rates.

In America the net reproduction rate for the white majority has fallen below the level needed to sustain the current population. It is only by opening the immigration flood-gates that America grows in population.

Muslims now outnumber Jews in America.

Islam is living. Protestantism is dying. Judaism is dying. America as we knew it is dying.

Quisnam igitur sanus? (Who then is sane?)

Islam is living. Protestantism is dying. Judaism is dying. America as we knew it is dying.

Quisnam igitur sanus? (Who then is sane?)

Well, at least we know who isn't logical. That would be you, if you're trying to go from birth rate to sanity. BTW, the rapidly expanding population worldwide is something that is able to take place because of Western technology, Western agricultural science, and medicine. Who, then, is dependent upon that which he seeks to destroy? Who, then, is insane?

God help me - I used to believe that circumcision (?sp) was the expected thing to do and allowed all three of my boys to be mutilated. I am an American for many, many generations.

Well, I'm not talking about circumcision that's done under anaesthesia and at an age when there is no possible psychological harm. For that, there's no evidence of harm either to mind or body. I'm talking about a practice that is as barbaric as slashing children's heads to celebrate the death of an Islamic martyr.

"God help me - I used to believe that circumcision (?sp) was the expected thing to do and allowed all three of my boys to be mutilated. "

Let's not get carried away. As a circumcised male, I do not in any way feel "mutilated," any more then I would if I had my appendix or wisdom teeth removed. Just what purpose does a foreskin serve anyway? And there are certain health benefits to both the male and his spouse.

Who, then, is dependent upon that which he seeks to destroy?

Muslims abhor the social diseases that are killing America, not the technological advances that Muslims are using to expand. Isn't that obvious?

Islam recommends that male children be circumcized on the 7th day after birth or if an adult male who is uncircumcized converts. You may recall that Abraham circumcized Ismael also.

Oh I wouldn't get worked up about it. There are advantages to circumcision--no phimosis, reduced penile carcinoma, reduced cervical carcinoma in sex partners. Maybe we males shouldn't be circumcised, but then how would I know? The only ones who might know are the ones who have been circumcised later in life. I have certainly never found it to be a handycap--uh...er...I mean...so to speak--in any way.

I think he was referring to HIV and AIDS. They have very low incidence of either.

I was made aware that baby boys were circumcized without anesthesia. You know, that has to hurt!!! Think you need to check into that.

Being a female, I cannot testify about the benefits of a foreskin, but I am sure that God would not have put it there if it didn't serve a purpose.

All right, Americans--get in there and do your duty! I'm reaching for my wife right now!

FUNNY!!!

Oh I don't know. What about a hymen? I mean...well... Oh never mind.

In Sudan FGM is practiced by the Muslim community.

Someone has done a real guilt trip on you - relax. Almost all American males of the baby boom generation and older are circumcised - and I don't think most of us give the "ordeal" a moment's thought. It really isn't that big a deal. The physical and psychological pain surely do not measure up to all of the things that happen intentionally or accidentally in the daily process of living a normal life.

While I would not want to go through an African style circumcision rite - even that is more an excuse for a bunch of men to go out and whoop it up with an excess of the local ly brewed hootch and prove their manliness than any long term ordeal. The African males that go through it return to their villages with a sense of pride at having passed through the affair and pride that they have now joined the adults of the tribe - and do not harbor long term resentment against humanity. The notion is that if you can't endure even that that little bit of pain for that brief time you aren't much of a man, certainly not worthy of being a warrior for the tribe.

And - I am sick to death of the people in this forum who try to equate circumcision to FGM. No one lops off a functioning organ, and sexual pleasure is not forever prevented by the act. Males are not, for the most part left in pain for weeks and months and risk of infections for the remainder of their lives.