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Biden’s Winning Remarks
National Review Online ^ | 10/24/2001 | Michael Ledeen

Posted on 10/24/2001 5:18:18 PM PDT by Utah Girl

Joe Biden has been unanimously proclaimed "Buffoon of the Day," for his mind-numbing announcement that we'd better end the bombing of Afghanistan soon, or risk being branded "hi-tech bullies."

I don't want to suggest that there's more here than meets the eye, for there is not much depth to today's honored Buffoon, but there are a few suppressed assumptions and a hidden agenda lurking beneath his warning. The first is that it's somehow unfair for us to smash away at the Taliban without giving them a chance to smash us back. This is a variation on the old, and I hope by now discredited, doctrine known as "proportional response." According to this bit of silliness, if somebody did something mean to us, we were entitled to strike back, but only with the same quantum of meanness. To do more would constitute a violation of the rules.

The doctrine of proportional response incorporates the unstated assumption of moral equivalence, which puts all countries, peoples, ethnicities, races, and other collections of human beings on the same moral plane. If some morally challenged country attacked a saintly country, you could not very well argue for proportional response, since you would want the saintly nation to prevail, and hence you would be willing to accept a disproportional response.

Which is exactly what we want (Hello Joe?). We do not want to duke it out with the terror network according to the Marquis of Queensbury rules; we want to grab the terrorists and throw them against the wall. And we want to show them, and anyone else who might contemplate a murderous assault against America or Americans, that they better not mess with us, because they won't survive it.

Precisely because our leaders for the past several years have turned from the righteous path of wildly disproportional response, we are in a pickle now. Having failed to smash them thoroughly, we find ourselves facing a very dangerous threat, which forces us to do more than would have been necessary a few years ago.

Contrary to Buffoon Biden's rumination, we should delight in a reputation as a high-tech bully. I'd even go further. I'd be willing to pay for universal recognition of the United States as a crazed, uncontrollable, unstoppable, utterly lethal high-tech bully. Just the sort of country you don't want to mess with.


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And Biden has really really bad hairplugs too. And a big combover.
1 posted on 10/24/2001 5:18:18 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: summer
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2 posted on 10/24/2001 5:18:28 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
Nice rant. It looks as if the National Review is back to making sense these days.
3 posted on 10/24/2001 5:21:03 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Utah Girl
The Utah Girl once again has blessed FR with a winning article. Exactly right on the money, and Joe "Plagiarist" Biden ought to be ashamed of himself, if not run out of town on a rail. His remarks were unwarranted, and idiotic. I would VERY much like for his remarks to be made WIDELY KNOWN, especially to the men and women of New York City. MAKE IT KNOWN to the people of NYC that this is the LEADING DEMOCRAT in the Senate on Foreign Affairs.

REPUBLICANS NEED TO REMIND NYC VOTERS THAT THE DEMOCRATIC SPOKESPERSON FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS WAS CONCERNED ABOUT "BULLYING" THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED 6,000 OF THEIR FELLOW NEW YORKERS.

When this is done, Biden will issue proclamations of "apologies" and claim he was "taken out of context". DON'T LET HIS EXCUSES STAND. BIDEN CARES MORE ABOUT "BULLYING" THE TALIBAN THAN HE DOES ABOUT MAKING SURE THOUSANDS AREN'T KILLED AGAIN.

4 posted on 10/24/2001 5:25:52 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Utah Girl
Biden is worried about our being high tech bullies? The Clintons tried to create a level tech playing field by selling our technology to China. Biden must wish they had succeeded. This is not the time for anymore treacherous bs from dumb liberal Democrats.
5 posted on 10/24/2001 5:29:18 PM PDT by abclily
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To: Utah Girl
Teddy Roosevelt sure didn't mind. Remember his Walk softly, and carry a big stick? Worked for him; worked through the 20ieth century.

Big sticks can be good deterrents.
6 posted on 10/24/2001 5:32:28 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Recovering_Democrat
YES! YES! YES!
7 posted on 10/24/2001 5:33:33 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: Utah Girl
Now, now, lets not be mean about a persons appearance (darn it, ya beat me to it). Yeah, dontcha just love those hair plugs?!

Yes, lets stop bombing those poor unfortunates. I say we stop when we've killed about, oh say 6,000 or 7,000 of them. Maybe.

8 posted on 10/24/2001 5:36:15 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: Utah Girl
What magnus Freeper can link to Joe ben Biden's actual words?

For context.

9 posted on 10/24/2001 5:37:24 PM PDT by don-o
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To: Utah Girl
Biden's right.

 

But just one [1] more for the road, ok Joe? 


Taleban at night

 

10 posted on 10/24/2001 5:39:34 PM PDT by Deep_6
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I'll try to find you his exact words. His office is saying that his comments were taken out of context. Right.
11 posted on 10/24/2001 5:40:54 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
Mr. Ledeen is a Freeper.

L

12 posted on 10/24/2001 5:44:57 PM PDT by Lurker
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To: Utah Girl; don-o
Contact bin Biden Here and Now!
13 posted on 10/24/2001 5:45:29 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Cicero; Utah Girl; JMJ333; ThreadKiller; ChemistCat
 I'd be willing to pay for universal recognition of the United States
as a crazed, uncontrollable, unstoppable, utterly lethal high-tech bully. Just
the sort of country you don't want to mess with.

Which is precisely what I have been saying for the last month
to anyone unfortunate enough to be within harangue range.
The proper response to terrorism is unremitting infiltration,
assassination, death, destruction and familicide.  You have
to stop terrorism in the mind of the wannabe even before
the act.  Its consequences must be automatic and appalling.
Does America have the moral strength to fight immorally?
Doubtful.  Will we win any other way?   No.

14 posted on 10/24/2001 5:45:39 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Recovering_Democrat
MAKE IT KNOWN to the people of NYC that this is the LEADING DEMOCRAT in the Senate on Foreign Affairs.

REPUBLICANS NEED TO REMIND NYC VOTERS THAT THE DEMOCRATIC SPOKESPERSON FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS WAS CONCERNED ABOUT "BULLYING" THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED 6,000 OF THEIR FELLOW NEW YORKERS.

Perhaps the idiots in Delaware should be told that the loudmouth, idiotic senator that they keep electing is making an A$$ of himself - and them, for voting for him.

15 posted on 10/24/2001 5:46:48 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Utah Girl
His office is saying that his comments were taken out of context.

Biden, the A$$hole, speaks out of context all of the time.

16 posted on 10/24/2001 5:48:00 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Utah Girl
An earlier Biden thread.
17 posted on 10/24/2001 5:48:00 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Utah Girl
I called his Washongton Office at 202 224-5042 and talked to one of his staffers who was very defensive. She said he was taken out of context and didn't mean what he said, and that he will offer a retraction of sorts. I said fine once he takes back this stupid statement I will maybe reconsider what I thought of him. I used the term dangerous moron. She did not like that much.
18 posted on 10/24/2001 5:48:07 PM PDT by UB355
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To: Utah Girl
Since when do we run wars by letting the other side have a better chance of winning? Only in the PC world of the democratic lefties. This is one of the stupidest things I have heard from a liberal yet!
19 posted on 10/24/2001 5:48:10 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Utah Girl
No US civilian deaths and sacrifices on Biden's PC altar of proportionalism and what not.
20 posted on 10/24/2001 5:49:51 PM PDT by lavaroise
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