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NATO Air Surveillance Help Makes American Skies Safer
Virginian-Pilot ^ | October 24, 2001 | JACK DORSEY

Posted on 10/24/2001 7:00:44 PM PDT by Ligeia

NORFOLK -- Maj. Gen. Johann-G. Dora, a 53-year-old German fighter-bomber pilot, joined the Luftwaffe in 1967 and helped NATO and American forces protect Europe from Soviet aggression.

Today, international crews under his control are flying anti-terrorism patrols over the full breadth of America.

Dora, in Norfolk this week to meet with NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Atlantic and the U.S. Joint Forces Command, heads the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's Airborne Early Warning and Control Force of 17 aircraft.

He sent five of the NATO early warning planes to the United States soon after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Northern Virginia.

It's a mission he never thought he'd see.

``It's unusual for sure,'' said the two-star general.

The five E-3A NATO aircraft, plus a sixth support aircraft that Dora and his staff flew to Oklahoma City on Tuesday, are from Geilenkirchen, Germany.

They include a unique international crew.

The countries contributing personnel are Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Greece, the United Kingdon, Portugal, Spain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Turkey and the United States.

At any time, the cockpit can include crew members from four different nations.

``At the very beginning, people looked at us and said we might not achieve very much,'' he said.

``They said we won't perform like a national crew would. But after a few years we found this force is an example of a truly international unit that works.

``They don't want (it said) one nation is not doing as well as another, so they all do better. It's a real success story and one of the reasons why U.S. authorities have worked with us.''

English is the language spoken by the four-member flight crew and the 15 systems operators during the flights, which can last more than 10 hours.

The aircraft are designed to ``look for everything,'' Dora said, ``especially for low-flying aircraft, fast and slow'' that are not normally picked up on commercial radar, or even ground-based military radar.

They also can track ship movements.

In this particular mission, the NATO planes transfer information they receive to officials of the North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, for assessment.

Dora, who is a current E-3A pilot, said he may fly some of the sorties while in Oklahoma this week. It isn't his first visit.

The NATO crews have been to Tinker Air Force Base, where the United States keeps 28 of its AWACS planes, several times for exercises and training.

``We know the surroundings very well,'' he said. ``Oklahoma City is a nice town, the people are especially very warm hearted and friendly.

``My crews report to me they are really welcomed, although the people of Oklahoma, when they see all the Germans here, are not used to that.

``But once we say we're NATO, they offer to buy us a beer, even dinner. That is strange. We never had an experience like that in Europe.''

The United States requested the NATO help to protect the airways from potential terrorists who might try again to turn commercial airliners into suicide missiles.

The mission is called Eagle Assist, following the overall homeland defense operation called Noble Eagle.

The NATO assistance allowed U.S. AWACS aircraft to be deployed elsewhere. The assist also helped lower the operational tempo of the U.S. planes, which are in high demand.

``I am delighted that we can do it,'' Adm. Sir James Perowne said of the NATO deployment, the first time the alliance has been asked to protect American soil.

After the terrorist attacks, NATO invoked Article 5 of its charter, which states that a foreign attack on one member is considered an attack on the other 18 members of the alliance.

Additional NATO assets being used in the coalition's war against terrorists include the Standing Naval Force Mediterranean, a multination task force of ships being used in the eastern Mediterranean to guard the approaches to the Suez Canal.

Other communications and command-and-control assets belonging to NATO also are available.

``I hope we can help America,'' said Perowne, of the United Kingdom, who is deputy Supreme Allied Commander Atlantic and based in Norfolk.

``America has stood by Europe many times and, in this tiny way, . . . we are standing by America, visibly standing by America.''

The help is small compensation for all the times America has aided Europe during the past 50 years, Dora said.

``This is true for all of Europe, but especially true for our country, because Germany owes you a lot of thanks. This is a very small return. We are proud that we could pay back a little bit of (those) big things you have done for Europe.

``That is not just how I feel but how the crews feel, and that is true for all the 13 nations'' involved in the effort.


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My, what different times are these.
1 posted on 10/24/2001 7:00:44 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia
I can't say that I'm pleased.

Our military has been downgraded to the point where we aren't able to monitor our own shores without help. Very sad.

2 posted on 10/24/2001 7:11:07 PM PDT by Mike K
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To: Ligeia
God Bless Our Allies Bump.
3 posted on 10/24/2001 7:12:43 PM PDT by TonyInOhio
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To: Mike K
We are independent cusses, aren't we? It's very difficult to accept assistance from other nations.
4 posted on 10/24/2001 7:14:53 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia
We clearly need more AWACS planes of our own. Meantime, until we have them, we are better off with NATO than with nothing.
5 posted on 10/24/2001 7:24:14 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Cicero
Yes, I agree. Since we are short on both pilots and AWACS, this is what must be done. I was initially opposed to it, but a friend convinced me it's better that our pilots are working with our servicemen and women overseas and the NATO pilots are here. I hope more planes and pilots are in the military budget.
6 posted on 10/24/2001 7:28:17 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia
Can anyone here tell me what these AWACS can do to protect us?
8 posted on 10/24/2001 7:40:52 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: Ligeia
All things considered. . . I'd kinda sorta like to be a fly. . . perched cleverly on the inside wall of a NATO plane . . . as it supposedly looks out for the welfare of the good old USA !!!
9 posted on 10/24/2001 7:41:19 PM PDT by GeekDejure
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To: TonyInOhio
From the article:
``This is true for all of Europe, but especially true for our country, because Germany owes you a lot of thanks. This is a very small return. We are proud that we could pay back a little bit of (those) big things you have done for Europe.

Fifty years from now, perhaps Afghanistan and the Middle East will say the same.

10 posted on 10/24/2001 7:41:29 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: Level Plasma
Do you honestly believe they are working to take the guns from your home? They're trying to keep airplanes from crashing into any more buildings and to keep crop dusters from spraying toxins and killing Americans. I'll wager our guns are the least of their concerns.
11 posted on 10/24/2001 7:49:08 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia
Only fitting we have Germans protecting the Homeland...BIG SMILE! BIG SMILE! BIG SMILE! (Sig Heil)
12 posted on 10/24/2001 7:56:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: snopercod
Can anyone here tell me what these AWACS can do to protect us?

Land based radar can not detect low flying planes, AWACS can.

13 posted on 10/24/2001 7:58:50 PM PDT by Slewfoot
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To: Level Plasma
I can't imagine Americans will ever become accustomed to foreign assistance of any kind.
15 posted on 10/24/2001 8:24:30 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: Level Plasma
So far, I've only seen tolerance for the presence of NATO. No one becoming accustomed. I don't mean to take issue with semantics, but it's an important distinction. I will only accept it as temporary until we rebuild our military ourselves. Perhaps they'll play a role and intercept some fiendish act. Even so, I will be relieved when they're gone.
17 posted on 10/24/2001 8:39:01 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: Level Plasma
Does anyone know how many of these AWAC's Clintoon got rid of.

What are the numbers?

19 posted on 10/24/2001 9:02:55 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Slewfoot
Land based radar can not detect low flying planes, AWACS can.

The two "low flying" planes which hit the WTC were visible on ATC radar. Would having an AWACS overhead have stopped those two?

20 posted on 10/25/2001 5:04:07 AM PDT by snopercod
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