Posted on 10/25/2001 7:22:22 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
The chairman and the sheriffs
The concealed weapons bill gets caught in a dispute over fingerprinting
By Dan Williamson
Capitolgate Statehouse Reporter
dwilliamson@capitolgate.com
This was the plan: by the time the House Civil and Commercial Law Committee got its hands on the concealed-carry bill, it would be ready for a vote; any major changes in the legislation were to have been made in subcommittee.
Thats why its there, Rep. John Willamowski (R-Lima), the civil law chairman, said two weeks ago.
That was the plan.
The reality, however, is that though the House Bill 274 subcommittee recommended a substitute version of the measure last week, Willamowski is unhappy with its contents. He indicated this week he will push for further alterations before sending it to the House floor.
Further complicating matters is that Willamowskis alterations might scare off the only law-enforcement organization that has supported the bill.
Willamowski said this week he remains strongly opposed to the fingerprinting provision in Sub. H.B. 274. Although the subcommittee weakened the fingerprinting requirement spelled out in the original bill, as proposed by Rep. Jim Aslanides (R-Coshocton), it wasnt enough to suit Willamowski.
With regard to fingerprintingagain, you dont have to get fingerprinted to buy a gun, he said. Therefore, you shouldnt have to be fingerprinted to carry a gun, he has said.
The original legislation required all citizens seeking concealed-carry permits to submit to electronic fingerprinting as part of the background check performed by the residing county sheriffs office.
After angry complaints from gun-rights activists, the subcommittee changed the bill to allow sheriffs to determine whether a four-year Ohio resident needs to be identified by fingerprint. But for newer Ohioans, fingerprinting would still be mandatory.
The compromise didnt appease most of the gun-rights organizations. More importantly, nor did it appease the chairman.
Willamowski said he doesnt know when his committee will take up Sub. H.B. 274. He said he plans to seek input from House Speaker Larry Householder (R-Glenford) before disclosing what sorts of changes he intends to propose for the bill.
Ive got some ideas, he said. Ill run it past some people to see if I can get some support.
Rep. Ann Womer Benjamin (R-Aurora) said yesterday she personally isnt married to the fingerprinting clausebut suggested members of the Buckeye State Sheriffs Association are.
The sheriffs association is the only statewide law enforcement organization thats supporting the bill. House Republicans would like to be able to cite the associations endorsement as evidence that Sub. H.B. 274 is not an anti-police bill.
Whats important to me is keeping the sheriffs on board with the bill, said Womer Benjamin, a member of Willamowskis committee and chairwoman of the H.B. 274 subcommittee. If some arrangement can be worked out where the fingerprinting could be diluted while keeping the sheriffs on board, then I probably could support that.
However, the head of the sheriffs association said such an arrangement cannot be worked out.
Bob Cornwell, executive director of the association, said the subcommittee wanted to dilute the fingerprinting clause further than it already has. We said no, he said.
As for Womer Benjamins concerns about the potential of the sheriffs withdrawing their support, That is a very realistic fear on her part, Cornwell said.
If theres no fingerprinting provision in Substitute House Bill Two-seventy-four, we will not support the bill.
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This son of a bitch obviously dosen't live in New Jersey, soon one here won't be able to take a dump without proper papers.
Deadeye, keep it up.
Could you point out where they are ? ---I see nothing on my screen that tells which state it is.
Same here in GA, and in FL where I lived before. Heck, here in GA we have to be fingerprinted to get a drivers license. I don't like it and I think it's silly, but since I have to drive my car I do it anyway.
I know many people oppose fingerprinting for a CCW on principle, but while they're waiting to get a no-fingerprint law that may never be passed, hundreds, or even thousands, of people in OH will be assaulted, robbed, or possibly killed because they can't legally carry a gun. Seems to me it would be better to take what you can get now and then work to make it better in the future. As the public begins to see that concealed guns aren't the evil tools of the devil their politicians have told them they are, it will become easier to make the law better.
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