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Bush Urges Congress to Act on Anti-Terror Treaties (1st New Big Brother Law, Now UN Terror Treaties)
Reuters & AP ^ | October 26, 2001 | PRISCILLA CHEUNG & Reuters Staff

Posted on 10/26/2001 8:36:53 PM PDT by freedomnews

Bush Urges Congress to Act on Anti-Terror Treaties October 26, 2001 5:31 pm EST

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush urged Congress on Friday to pass laws to implement two international agreements designed to crack down on "terrorists" and on their sources of financing.

The first pact, the International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings, requires states to prosecute or to extradite anyone within their jurisdiction who bombs a public place, government facility or public transport system.

The second agreement, the International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism, requires states to prosecute or to extradite anyone in their jurisdiction who collects funds to carry out "terrorist" activities.

In a letter released by the White House, Bush called on Congress to give "prompt and favorable consideration" of his legislative proposal to implement the two treaties, neither of which has been yet ratified by the U.S. Senate.

U.N. diplomats fail to reach agreement on draft convention against terrorism

By PRISCILLA CHEUNG

The Associated Post

10/26/01 8:25 PM

UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- Diplomats working on a new, comprehensive convention against terrorism have failed to resolve the key sticking point in negotiations: defining who is a terrorist.

The working group failed to meet a Friday deadline on agreement on three of the articles in the proposed convention -- how to define terrorism, how far-reaching the new convention should be and whether certain actions should be exempt from being classified as terrorist acts, General Assembly spokesman Jan Fischer said.

"That leaves the draft incomplete," Fischer said. "Although we were hoping for a draft convention, we have to remember the working group is dealing with some very difficult issues, and it usually takes quite some time to agree on such conventions."

Defining terrorism has been a key stumbling block in the negotiations on the convention, designed to provide anti-terrorism measures and glue together a dozen existing international agreements on terrorism.

One nation's terrorists are often another's freedom fighters. For example, Arab nations argue that the Palestinians are victims of "modern terrorism" and have a right to fight for independence.

The diplomats also could not agree on whether actions taken by certain military forces or national liberation movements should be exempt from the convention, Fischer said.

The spokesman said the diplomats also failed to agree on whether the new convention should be "a kind of superconvention that overrides all the other conventions," or if it should just fill the gaps left by the dozen existing agreements.

It was unclear what the working group, which needs to make recommendations to the General Assembly's legal committee, will do next, Fischer said. The assembly report has asked for a report from the legal committee by Nov. 15.

The legal committee "may try to find some kind of compromise language, but it could also take note of the progress made already and suggest that the outstanding items be taken up in future meetings," Fischer added.


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The UN World Government Empowering Treaties, that Bush wants passed as law, don't even define what a terrorist is!

And he he wants them passed UnConstitutionally as law, as WTO and NAFTA were illegally passed.

These illegal treaties will give thew United Nations and foriegn governments more access to US citizen information.

Also from what I understand the new Anti-Terror Bill that Bush just signed into law is over 5000 pages long according to to what I am hearing.

Also take note Ron Smith on WBAL Radio reported today that Dick Cheney today said that the Homeland Defense Agency is going to be a permanent agency. Even Rush Limbaugh said a two weeks ago that the homeland Defense Force could be a very bad thing if it was more than temporary.

1 posted on 10/26/2001 8:36:53 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: The Documentary Lady
thats the problem - some day "terrorism" will be anything that "unsettles or threatens to unsettle the public tranquility" - things like preaching the gospel or saying someone is guilty of sin....
3 posted on 10/26/2001 8:44:34 PM PDT by artios
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If somebody like Clintoon was President, we, the Freepers would be terrorists. Government folks need to defend the nation, defend the Constitution, defend liberty and win the war. Nothing more, nothing less. Leave liberty alone, they've got all the laws they need.
4 posted on 10/26/2001 8:51:50 PM PDT by major-pelham
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To: major-pelham
The Anthrax will probably be blamed on Patriots.
5 posted on 10/26/2001 8:53:44 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: artios
thats the problem - some day "terrorism" will be anything that "unsettles or threatens to unsettle the public tranquility" - things like preaching the gospel or saying someone is guilty of sin....

Only if a Democrat is elected. It's our job to see that doesn't happen. Liberals are anti-Biblical.

6 posted on 10/26/2001 8:53:49 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: artios
And under these new treaties the UN will decide and define who these people are.
7 posted on 10/26/2001 8:54:56 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: freedomnews
And under these new treaties the UN will decide and define who these people are.

If they do, thank God Bush and not E-Gore is president!!!!!

8 posted on 10/26/2001 8:56:12 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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Texas Yellow Rose

"thats the problem - some day "terrorism" will be anything that "unsettles or threatens to unsettle the public tranquility" - things like preaching the gospel or saying someone is guilty of sin...."

You are absolutely right.  I'm not too sure how far away your "someday" is either.  It may be closer than we think. 


9 posted on 10/26/2001 9:00:21 PM PDT by Texas Yellow Rose
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To: freedomnews; B4Ranch
bump
10 posted on 10/26/2001 9:09:24 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: concerned about politics
Only if a Democrat is elected.

Don't bet on it.

12 posted on 10/26/2001 9:19:01 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: major-pelham
If somebody like Clintoon was President, we, the Freepers would be terrorists.

Sadly, someone like him and Reno will be back, someday. And like a good bacteria, this strain will be even more resistant to our laws.

13 posted on 10/26/2001 9:20:19 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: vedicstar
Hate to break it to you, but Clinton never passed a law as bad as this anti terror treaty. This is happening under Bush.

Thats why when government is divided, our liberties are safest.

15 posted on 10/26/2001 9:32:59 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

--Ben Franklin

16 posted on 10/26/2001 9:41:58 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: freedomnews
Oh..this just gets better and better. I think I'm gonna cry now
17 posted on 10/26/2001 9:48:28 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: Snow Bunny; freedomnews
It is not disease, but the physician; it is the pernicious hand of government alone which can reduce a whole people to dispair. --Junius
18 posted on 10/26/2001 9:51:14 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: freedomnews; Hail Caesar; AntiTyrant; Goldi-Lox; GunsareOK; LiberalBuster; secamend; GeronL...
Hey, George II. Get ready to lose to Hillary! (booooooooo) in 2004!
19 posted on 10/26/2001 9:54:24 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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It also sounds like George II wants the treaties implemented even before ratification, sorta like Klinton and Kyoto.
20 posted on 10/26/2001 9:58:39 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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