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No Corner Ruled Out in Anthrax Hunt
WASHINGTON (Reuters) ^ | 27 Oct 01 | Brian Williams

Posted on 10/27/2001 11:34:28 AM PDT by Democrats are liars

By Brian Williams

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The hunt for those responsible for deadly anthrax mailings in the United States is going on both at home and abroad, law enforcement officials said on Saturday.

Playing down reports that the focus of the search had shifted to the possibility that domestic extremists, rather than chief global terrorism suspect Osama bin laden were behind the anthrax attacks, a U.S. intelligence official said "no definitive conclusion has been reached."

"I don't think we've ruled anything out at this point," the official told Reuters.

 

 

The Washington Post reported on Saturday that FBI and CIA investigators believe extremists in the United States, not connected to bin Laden, are probably behind the use of the postal system to deliver anthrax.

Bin Laden is blamed by Washington for hijacked aircraft attacks on Sept. 11 which killed nearly 5,000 people.

There was good news for occupants and visitors to the offices of three members of the House of Representatives where traces of the germ warfare agent were found on Friday when a senior doctor involved in the case predicted no one would come down with the bacteria after spending time in those offices.

Commander Gregory Martin, chief of infectious diseases at Bethesda Naval Hospital, told reporters that as a precaution anyone who came in contact with the three congressional offices were being put on a 60-day regime of antibiotics.

But Martin said the level of exposure in the House office building is much lower than the amounts of anthrax found recently in Senate offices.

SUPREME COURT, CIA, STATE DEPT. MAIL CENTERS

"We feel quite confident ... we will see no cases of anthrax" stemming from the contamination in the House offices, Martin said.

Lt. Dan Nichols of the U.S. Capitol Police told reporters at the same news conference that law enforcement officials were still trying to determine whether a ventilation system or a piece of mail may have been the source of the contamination.

Officials said they did not yet know how many people may have been in the three congressional offices since the contamination. Efforts were being made to contact anyone who signed visitor registers, they said.

Traces of anthrax have also been found at mail facilities that serve the Supreme Court and the CIA and a State Department worker is in a hospital in serious but stable condition. The man works at a facility outside Washington that handles State Department mail and letters for U.S. missions abroad.

The greatest concern from the mailings has been the high potency of the anthrax in a letter to the office of Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle received earlier this month.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said investigators had determined the anthrax involved was pure, concentrated and highly dangerous.

"That does not rule out that it could be state-sponsored," Fleischer said at a briefing on Friday. "That does not rule out that it could come from a foreign location. But it certainly does expand it beyond state sponsorship or foreign locations."

There could be as many as 40 places in the United States with the ability to produce the lethal version of anthrax that was mailed to Daschle, said Sen. Bob Graham, chairman of the Senate intelligence committee.

THREE DEATHS SO FAR

"Most of them are associated with a university, a medical center or a veterinary center," Graham, a Florida Democrat, told Reuters. "But I don't believe any source of this has either been ruled in or ruled out, sources within the United States or elsewhere."

So far, three people -- two Washington postal workers and a photo editor at a Florida-based media company -- have died of anthrax.

There have also been infections in New York and New Jersey.

A third U.S. postal facility in New Jersey has been closed after investigators found evidence of anthrax contamination on a mail bin, state health officials said on Saturday.

The main post office for Princeton, located about 10 miles (16 km) northeast of Trenton in West Windsor, New Jersey, shut down after environmental tests turned up a single colony of anthrax late on Friday. Officials collected the sample on Oct. 16 but did not test it until Wednesday.

Authorities, who are investigating as many as five anthrax infections among postal workers from the Trenton area, have closed two other facilities near Trenton, including a main distribution center in Hamilton Township that handled anthrax-laden letters sent to Daschle, NBC News anchor Tom Brokaw and the New York Post.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the agency responsible for containing disease outbreaks, said decontamination personnel and state and private laboratory workers and would be eligible to receive an anthrax vaccine to protect them against the illness.

The vaccine is currently given to U.S. armed forces personnel. Officials would also provide the vaccine to criminal investigators at high risk of exposure.



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"Playing down reports that the focus of the search had shifted to the possibility that domestic extremists, rather than chief global terrorism suspect Osama bin laden were behind the anthrax attacks, a U.S. intelligence official said "no definitive conclusion has been reached." They don't have a clue who is doing this!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 posted on 10/27/2001 11:34:28 AM PDT by Democrats are liars
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To: Democrats are liars
"They don't have a clue who is doing this!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Also this is only the second question. BUT, there are three lifelines.

They can take the 50-50 and can cut it down to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Or the Freeper audience can answer.

Or they can call an expert (eg. Laurie Mylroie)

2 posted on 10/27/2001 11:39:23 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis
Crop-dusters.
3 posted on 10/27/2001 11:47:22 AM PDT by Nogbad
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To: Nogbad
Yeah, the media has done a good job of telling them that Dashle's is better than the other's. Now they know for sure what to mill it to for the crop-dusters.
4 posted on 10/27/2001 11:51:37 AM PDT by Bill Rice
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To: Diogenesis
Of course one of the stories coming out, that the letters were coated with Bentatine(forgive me on the error) that makes the spores last longer and disperse freely, I assume that since the U.S. is supposedly one of three sources of the stuff(other two are Russia and Iraq)I think that the stuff is controlled, or am I wrong on this?
5 posted on 10/27/2001 11:52:31 AM PDT by mlibertarianj
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To: Democrats are liars
I can understand that they don't want to give out information that they don't have, or that will compromise the investigation.

But these jamokes had better realize that they have an obligation to scotch the nasty, underhanded rumors being broadcast by the liberal media, including the Washington ComPost that the guilty parties are Christian fundamentalists, or right-to-life organizations, or anything of the kind.

These are flat-out lies, being disseminated by the media, probably with the complicity of some clintonoid or other who is leaking lies from the FBI because Bush hasn't gotten around to firing him yet.

Janet Reno is no longer our ruler by divine right. This stuff has got to stop.

6 posted on 10/27/2001 12:01:34 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Democrats are liars
The Left and Media are certainly hoping it's "right wingers".
7 posted on 10/27/2001 12:04:32 PM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: GuillermoX
It must be the terrorists! Nothing else makes any sense.
8 posted on 10/27/2001 12:12:21 PM PDT by Democrats are liars
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To: mlibertarianj
Of course one of the stories coming out, that the letters were coated with Bentatine(forgive me on the error) that makes the spores last longer and disperse freely, I assume that since the U.S. is supposedly one of three sources of the stuff(other two are Russia and Iraq)I think that the stuff is controlled, or am I wrong on this?
Yeah, pretty much :-)

It's "Bentonite." It's a kind of naturally occuring clay that instantly turns to horrible mud when it rains. It's not controlled. Literally the entire center of the state of Wyoming is covered with the stuff. You can go out and pick it up off the ground. It's used for a zillion things..it's pumped down oil wells, used in Kitty Litter.

Kind of hard to control mud :-)

It also occurs widely throughout the world, in 81 countries, including Iran and Iraq.

The deal with Iraq is that they're the only country known previously to use bentonite in their anthrax program, apparently. But ANYONE can get all the bentonite they want, anywhere they want. Hence, it's not proof Iraq produced the anthrax.

9 posted on 10/27/2001 12:16:01 PM PDT by John H K
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They don't have a clue who is doing this!!!!!!!!!!!!

You seem surprised....why?

It took EIGHTEEN YEARS to track down the Unabomber.

I would be shocked if whoever sent the anthrax letters was tracked down within 3-4 months and not surprised if it took over a year. Mail crimes are exceedingly difficult to solve.

10 posted on 10/27/2001 12:18:57 PM PDT by John H K
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To: John H K
Thanks for the info! :-)
11 posted on 10/27/2001 12:23:21 PM PDT by mlibertarianj
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To: John H K
U'bomber wasn't exactly tracked down ...his own brother turned him in. That is hardly the FBI triumph that some in the media attempt to attribute to former FBI profiler (and resident media "expert") Cliff Van Zandt.

'Can't decide whether the attemp to blame this on "right wing fanatics" is FBI ineptness or whether the administration has given the FBI their "marching orders."

Obviously, the administration does not want this being taced to Iraq at this point in time. This may be strategic in nature. My hope is that this is a temporary thing due to the need to complete the Afghan mission prior to engaging Iraq.

Sadly, there is also the alternative possibility that, in the post-Clinton atmosphere, we are too badly exposed to risk a major chemical or biological attack internally and are thus unwilling to attack Iraq.

In my opinion the anthrax, so far, has not been intended to kill (although it did) ...that's why the samples were small, relatively contained and the messages and warnings were sent. The overall message being sent is this: We have the means and the methods to attack you at home. It is a warning of dire things to come pure and simple.

12 posted on 10/27/2001 12:44:19 PM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Democrats are liars
There is one group who is benefitting from the Anthrax scare that wil not be investigated. The FBI itself. Look at the targets of the attacks and you get a picture that they are aimed at anyone who might think about blocking the anti-terrorist bill that the FBI badly wants passed.

Now if they can also turn this into a witch hunt on the extreme right, so much the better for them. Sad when you become suspicious of your own government isn't it?

13 posted on 10/27/2001 12:56:04 PM PDT by Marak
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To: Democrats are liars
Once again the accusation is alway sourced as FBI govt or senior officials and/or invetigators. Only the media says this for a few weeks and sources each other. I want names not repetition until it's a "real" concern.
14 posted on 10/27/2001 12:58:21 PM PDT by martian_22
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They don't have a clue who is doing this!!!!!!!!!!!!

They've known who is responsible for weeks. Does anyone seriously believe that, four weeks into the anthrax campaign, the POTUS is still in the dark as to whether the letters are coming from al-Qaeda terror cells or all-American wackos? Get real. Ergo, we are being fed disinformation.

Now, put yourself in the position of Bush. You know that Iraq is presenting a credible threat to kill American civilians in huge numbers whenever you point the finger at Saddam. What are you going to do? Run out and tell everyone? Of course not. He has to keep the ball in the air for as long as possible. Saddam's okay with that, too. He's not going to blow the gaffe, since the anthrax only works as a deterrent so long as Bush has room to maneauver. The sh*t hits the fan when and if Bush points the finger.

15 posted on 10/27/2001 1:12:00 PM PDT by Clinton's a rapist
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Well, this is a better balanced story than some of the other rubbish. It's possible that somebody's yanking the media's chain with the "right-wing" talk, b/c they know the media will parrot the allegations. It could be to benefit the FBI, to discredit the "right-wing", or hopefully- a false story being leaked to make the terrorists careless b/c they think the FBI is hunting the wrong game. Most likely its some mid level A-hole democrat holdover with nothing to do but blabber to media types...
16 posted on 10/27/2001 1:14:24 PM PDT by 95Tarheel
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To: Clinton's a rapist
I like your elements of your theory, too.
17 posted on 10/27/2001 1:16:02 PM PDT by 95Tarheel
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To: Clinton's a rapist
Your theory is good. It is the only theory thus far that explains the wholly irrational suggestions that right wing hate groups are behind this. Notice that no one ever says they are, they are just "leaning toward that as a possibility." Also, Bush doesn't look too sure of himself when he discusses this. Nothing like the zone he gets into when discusses Osama and his cave. So there's something disturbing here that is being dealt with on a "need to know" basis. We don't have a need to know yet. They think. But they underestimate our will to know, and our ability to figure it out on our own.
18 posted on 10/27/2001 1:57:26 PM PDT by Vinomori
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To: Vinomori
The story that makes sense to me - either posted elsewhere or with words that didn't match the search I tried - is that the anthrax doesn't match either the Russian or Iraqi forms. But the clintoon admin., a few years ago, had given grants to some academics to see if they could produce "weapons grade" anthrax with commonly available ingrdeients and equipment, and do it without detection. The grant was cancelled when some of them did, within 3 months and at a cost of less than $1M, assemble a lab and the ingredients to begin production.
That story is pretty much confirmed by the reports saying that "someone with a graduate degree could do it".

I truly think this is more of a Unibomber case than a bin Laden or Iraqi case. That makes it much harder to solve.

Of course, the perpetrator(s) could be Middle-Eastern. Most of the science students in graduate programs in our Universities are Asian, Middle-Eastern or Russian.

19 posted on 10/27/2001 3:00:26 PM PDT by speekinout
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They've known who is responsible for weeks.

Are you saying they know who is in the terrorist cells that mailed the anthrax tainted letters from U.S. mailboxes, or just that they know who provided the anthrax?

If it's the former, then the effort to find the location of the terrorist cells would be at least a little closer to completion.

If it's the latter, then there really isn't much the government can do. Assuming the stockpiles of anthrax are already in the hands of hidden terrorist cells within the U.S., then no amount of threatening language or overt actions against Iraq can change that fact. IMO the first priority would be to neutralize the immediate threat (locate and disable the hidden terrorist cells), then go after the sponsor.

20 posted on 10/27/2001 3:14:11 PM PDT by been_lurking
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