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Britons who join Taliban to face trial
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 10/30/2001 | Michael Smith and Amit Roy

Posted on 10/29/2001 3:53:39 PM PST by Pokey78

BRITISH Muslims contemplating going to Afghanistan to join the Taliban's jihad against the West were warned yesterday that they could be put on trial for treason or murder.

Amid reports that a number of British Muslims had already died while fighting with the Taliban, Geoff Hoon, the Defence Secretary, said even those who were lucky enough to return alive might find themselves jailed here.

A hardline Islamic group calling itself al-Muhajiroun claimed at the weekend that four out of "thousands" of British Muslims who had gone to Afghanistan to join the Taliban had died in the allied bombing.

British officials said they were aware that a number of British Muslims had gone to Pakistan with the intention of crossing into Afghanistan to fight for the Taliban but the figure of "thousands" was thought to be exaggerated.

Asked by Arab journalists in London about the reports, Mr Hoon said: "I would hope that anyone who is contemplating going to Afghanistan does think very carefully about the consequences, both to them and their families, in terms of the grief they may suffer, as well as the legal action that might follow on their return, if they were to return."

The Home Office said there was a wide number of different charges that anyone who had fought on behalf of the Taliban might be tried under, which would "theoretically include treason".

Al-Muhajiroun, which is led by a British-based Syrian cleric, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, has warned of "a war within Britain" if any British Muslim is charged with treason for fighting with the Taliban.

However, the Home Office said: "Treason is probably not the most appropriate charge, although the law on treason would cover someone who joined enemies acting against this country."

They could also be tried for murder or assault in Britain for any acts committed abroad, a spokesman said. But the most likely charges would be under anti-terrorism legislation.

Mr Hoon's warning came as an opinion poll found that many more British Muslims would rather fight for Osama bin Laden than for Britain.

Sunrise, an Asian radio station, canvassed the opinions of 500 Muslims in Greater London, mainly of Pakistani origin and aged between 20 and 45.

An overwhelming majority - 91 per cent - believed the war was between the Christian West and Islam, while 98 per cent would not fight for Britain.

In marked contrast, 48 per cent said they would fight for bin Laden or for Islam. Another big majority - 79 per cent - said they did not support Britain in its war in Afghanistan. "The results indicate that Tony Blair's message is not getting through and the Government needs to work a lot harder," said Avtar Lit, chairman of Sunrise.

Al-Muhajiroun claimed that the four dead Britons - from Luton, Crawley, Birmingham and Derby - were killed when a bomb hit a house in Kabul where they were staying with other foreigners who had gone to help the Taliban.

They had arrived in Afghanistan earlier this month, a spokesman said. "They were declared missing in action after last Wednesday night's bombing on Kabul and on Sunday it was confirmed that they have been martyred."

Al-Muhajiroun released the names of three of the Britons, saying they were the team leader Aftab Manzoor, 25, Yasir Khan, 26, and Afzal Munir, 25. It withheld the fourth name at the request of relatives.

Sheikh Omar denied that his organisation had recruited any British Muslims to fight in Afghanistan.

"Our offices in Lahore are open for British Muslims and these men passed through there. Many Muslim families are leaving Britain to return to their homeland. Their first allegiance is to Allah, not to the Queen."

Al-Muhajiroun is one of a number of Islamic organisations being monitored by the police for potential breaches of the Terrorism Act 2000.

One British Muslim who took part in secret military training sessions in Afghanistan said he was a member of al-Muhajiroun and would return to help the Taliban fight British troops.

Abu Yahya, 26, of Plaistow, east London, said: "If the West goes to war against any Muslim country I have a divine obligation to join my brothers and sisters."


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1 posted on 10/29/2001 3:53:40 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
so much the dilution theory... give'm a one-way ticket and let'm keep shop back on the sand dune.
2 posted on 10/29/2001 3:55:43 PM PST by pointsal
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To: Pokey78
Okay, here's what disturbs me about this: WHY AREN"T THEY IN JAIL NOW?? WHY ISN"T IT CONSIDERED TREASON NOW??
3 posted on 10/29/2001 3:56:23 PM PST by MoJo2001
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To: Pokey78
Sunrise, an Asian radio station, canvassed the opinions of 500 Muslims in Greater London, mainly of Pakistani origin and aged between 20 and 45.

An overwhelming majority - 91 per cent - believed the war was between the Christian West and Islam, while 98 per cent would not fight for Britain.

But...but...

I thought the people who support Islamism, Jihadism and terrorism are just a "small minority," "maybe 15 percent" of Muslims?!?

Go figure.

4 posted on 10/29/2001 3:57:34 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Pokey78
Aye, me mates, what pleasure it twould be to see the soulless bastards hanging from the docks like the good ol'days as we pull into port.

Treason against the crown, big no no, dude.

5 posted on 10/29/2001 3:58:07 PM PST by norraad
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To: Pokey78
I suppose if a citizen takes them out, the citizen will be tried for a hate crime. The world is getting goofier and goofier. Good is bad.
6 posted on 10/29/2001 3:58:48 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: Aquinasfan
I guess these aren't the peaceful Muslims, either.
7 posted on 10/29/2001 3:58:54 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Pokey78
Abu Yahya, 26, of Plaistow, east London, said: "I heard there was an a**hole shortage in Hell. I have a divine obligation to join my brothers and sisters filling the shortfall."
8 posted on 10/29/2001 3:59:36 PM PST by RippleFire
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To: MadIvan; tonycavanagh
FYI BUMP
9 posted on 10/29/2001 3:59:51 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Pokey78
Mr Hoon's warning came as an opinion poll found that many more British Muslims would rather fight for Osama bin Laden than for Britain.

This confirms a couple of things:

1)The British Muslims willing to fight for Osama are nothing but barbarians themselves and 2)The Brits are fools if they allow these people to remain British citizens after they acknowledge their treason.

10 posted on 10/29/2001 4:24:36 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Pokey78
I'm a firm believer in allowing one to voice his opinions, no matter how anti-whatever they may be. However, once you become a citizen of any country, you must defend it, and any act which is akin to treason must be dealt with as severly as possible. What is this crap...they want the benefits of western culture, but then slip off for a war or two ? Give me a break - Kill them all and let's rid the world of this infestation once and for all !!!!!!!!!!
11 posted on 10/29/2001 6:30:29 PM PST by looky
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To: B Knotts
I read that today, I don’t judge people by colour or religion, but if you live in a country then your first duty is to that country, otherwise do the decent thing and leave.

What really pisses me of is how many of these people who support the taliban, but wont go out there too third world so much better living here in comfort.

Tony

12 posted on 10/30/2001 2:35:06 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh
Did you watch "War on Trial" on C4 (British) on Friday? Half the audience were Muslims who were cheerleading the leftist anti-American speakers who were declaring that Bush is a war criminal. The biggest cheers were reserved for those who stated that Bin Laden was "innocent until proven guilty". Real BARF material!
13 posted on 10/30/2001 3:16:11 AM PST by Colosis
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To: Pokey78
Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, has warned of "a war within Britain" if any British Muslim is charged with treason for fighting with the Taliban

Nothing irenic about that.

14 posted on 10/30/2001 3:25:58 AM PST by Dan De Quille
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To: Colosis
No I missed it

I believe in religious freedom and I don’t believe in racism, but I do believe in loyalty.

If they believe that there religion dictates that they go of to Afghanistan to fight against us then I say good riddance and f**k off.

Tony

15 posted on 10/30/2001 3:26:29 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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