Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Dowd: These Spooky Times
The New York Times ^ | 10/31/2001 | maureen dowd

Posted on 10/30/2001 7:47:43 PM PST by Pokey78

Last week, Georgetown University held a job fair. At the booths of the big Wall Street companies and banks, students had little wait. But to talk to a C.I.A. recruiter, the line stretched for over half an hour.

Ed Friedman, 21, a senior studying at the School for Foreign Affairs, was in that line. "Two years ago," he said, "Goldman Sachs was the place to be -- even people in the School for Foreign Affairs lined up there. People were interested in six-figure salaries and they viewed the C.I.A. as not having much of a purpose."

But that was before Sept. 11. "Everyone wants to be part of this, to help," he said.

Despite questions of another quagmire, America is at the moment a weird inside-out image of the Vietnam era. The C.I.A. and R.O.T.C. are chic on elite campuses, where flags hang from dorm rooms. Police have gone from "pigs" to heroes. And many of those who complained about America's escalation in Southeast Asia are now complaining about America's hesitation in Central Asia.

In an odd role reversal, the country is more gung-ho than the administration. And the Pentagon seems more skittish about the mounting number of civilian casualties and more consumed with winning Afghan hearts than the rest of America is.

Back then Walter Cronkite famously wondered what we were doing in Vietnam. Now Tom Brokaw presses Donald Rumsfeld about whether we can ever succeed in Afghanistan unless we put in "a division-size force, seize an airport, make that the base of operations."

Just as some A.C.L.U. lawyers now secretly mutter that they want to seal our borders, and some liberals are easily dismissing their concerns about civil liberties abuses and capital punishment, so many old peaceniks are now hawky, less concerned about which group of beards runs post-Taliban Afghanistan than about aggressively going after the villains.

This is the first war since World War II that is personal. Vietnam was inspired by the domino theory, and dragged on because Lyndon Johnson and Robert McNamara did not want to lose face. Desert Storm was about keeping our gas prices low.

But they brought this war to us, and now it is about protecting ourselves and the way we live.

The terrorists have already turned Halloween into an adult holiday and stolen Christmas. Who wants to open Christmas cards or touch catalogs or go to malls? They have debilitated our confidence, both in our economy and our freedom, and made us jittery about the very breaths we take and food we eat.

President Bush went to the Yankees game with about 1,200 police officers as Dick Cheney headed back underground and John Ashcroft warned us to watch out for every single thing.

But the truth is we can't be alert because we don't know what we're looking for, and most of what we're looking for is invisible, and we don't want to fall into ugly generalizations.

The F.B.I. has gotten over 300,000 tips from Americans trying to be alert, but the agency is still stumped.

Secretary Rumsfeld says agitation for a quicker military pace is due to the American desire for "instant gratification." But that is too glib. Americans are impatient about the war because -- unless we live near a crop duster or nuclear plant or find ourselves on a plane being hijacked -- it is our only avenue for striking back.

Just as Robert McNamara once said we lost Vietnam because the government had never understood the Vietnamese culture, so Rear Adm. John Stufflebeem said yesterday that he had underestimated the tenacity of the Afghan troops because he had not understood that the Taliban "don't see the world the same way we do," or automatically accept American "inevitability."

Admiral Stufflebeem may be the last person in America not to know that Afghanistan is a stubborn and durable and bellicose place, whose history is a long tale of war.

In a speech yesterday, Tony Blair said we must never forget the twin towers and the heroes "and the menace of bin Laden." It makes me worried that he is worried that the horror is already dimming. And it makes me nostalgic for that old "Wanted: dead or alive" certainty.

If ever the United States needed historical memory, it is right now. This is a just war, and not just war.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-31 next last
If ever the United States needed historical memory, it is right now. This is a just war, and not just war

To hell with FAEs, B2s, even nukes. We have Maureen Dowd on board!

Osama must be quaking in his cave.

1 posted on 10/30/2001 7:47:43 PM PST by Pokey78
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
Maureen Dowd in a rare moment of coherency. I shall treasure this moment.
2 posted on 10/30/2001 7:53:17 PM PST by SamAdams76
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: summer
Ping.
3 posted on 10/30/2001 7:53:21 PM PST by Pokey78
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SamAdams76
Maureen Dowd in a rare moment of coherency

My guess is she must have gotten some last night. That will do a woman wonders. (So they tell me. hehe)

4 posted on 10/30/2001 7:55:00 PM PST by Pokey78
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
Over the course of the past 2 years, I've trained my dog to retrieve a bucket from the garage at the uttering of the name Dowd.........

DOWD!

good doggie!

Barf!

5 posted on 10/30/2001 7:55:24 PM PST by hole_n_one
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SamAdams76
Would the cluck be so gung-ho if the media had not been targets of the anthrax letters?
6 posted on 10/30/2001 7:57:16 PM PST by Paul Atreides
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
OK, now that Dowd approves, we are definitely in the alternate universe. The NYT must have received a ton of letters. Ha!
7 posted on 10/30/2001 7:59:24 PM PST by Miss Marple
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
Here is who else is now supporting the war: CNN.

I am not kidding: This is what Judy Woodruff said tonight on CNN, at about 4:45 PM EST, and I almost started a thread just to find out if anyone else saw her and heard her say this --

[Following a report from a CNN reporter live and inside Afghanistan's borders]

JUDY: "And, [a note] to our viewers: from now on, whenever we show you someone from CNN in 'TALIBAN-controlled' Afghanistan, we will be saying why we are there:

We are there because we are at war AS THE RESULT OF BEING ATTACKED."

She almost choked saying it, but, she got it out. Seriously: CNN finally found out we've been attacked -- and, then, some genius news director or someone at CNN put it all together for their newscasters: WE've been ATTACKED and THAT's why we're at WAR!

(And: Let's TELL CNN VIEWERS AROUND THE WORLD!!!!)

It was amazing. Did anyone else see it?
8 posted on 10/30/2001 8:03:32 PM PST by summer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
Maureen Dowd's [usually Dowd=BARF!] guest columnist:

Peggy Noonan?

9 posted on 10/30/2001 8:03:42 PM PST by FReethesheeples
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
OK, what the hell happened here. She didn't even try to pen this on Bush. This is too weird.
10 posted on 10/30/2001 8:03:55 PM PST by Bogey78O
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: summer
It was either: 4:45 pm EST or 5:45 pm EST. I know I did look at my watch because I was thinking of posting it.
11 posted on 10/30/2001 8:05:43 PM PST by summer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: summer
I just pinged you a CNN article. That will explain it.
12 posted on 10/30/2001 8:06:03 PM PST by Pokey78
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Miss Marple
The NYT must have received a ton of letters. Ha!

LOL...you've got that right, Miss Marple -- the NYT must have been buried with a TON of letters (mostly: PRO-USA and PRO-war).
13 posted on 10/30/2001 8:08:42 PM PST by summer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
Thanks, I'll take a look, because I thought I was dreaming there....
14 posted on 10/30/2001 8:09:18 PM PST by summer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: summer
Here is the link to Pokey's article about CNN...a must read because you won't believe it!

CNN Chief Orders Balance in War News

15 posted on 10/30/2001 8:10:31 PM PST by Miss Marple
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
Pokey, Pokey, Pokey, (shaking head in disappointment) whatever will we do with you, Dowdophile? ;)
16 posted on 10/30/2001 8:11:13 PM PST by Lizzy W
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SamAdams76; Miss Marple
Maureen Dowd in a rare moment of coherency. I shall treasure this moment.

Did she forget to get drunk before she wrote this, or do you think she’s finally bouncing back from that Michael Douglas dumping horror?

Maybe Catherine Zeta Jones won’t feel the need to sleep with a gun in her nightstand for a change.

17 posted on 10/30/2001 8:12:53 PM PST by dead
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Miss Marple
Oh, I just now read it after he pinged me, but thank you so much. I was truly shocked.

BTW, the other day I was in the public library and I noticed: three of the four people on the easily viewed screens of the public computers were applying online for: jobs in government agencies. One was applying for the FBI, and others were applying for other branches of US government. Almost EVERYONE seems to want to do something to help win this war.
18 posted on 10/30/2001 8:17:53 PM PST by summer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Miss Marple
Well, you know what I meant -- "the people" were not easily viewed on the screens, but the screen content was easily viewed. OK. Time for me to go to sleep! :)
19 posted on 10/30/2001 8:19:53 PM PST by summer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: summer
I have noticed that as well. People really want to do something. I think I will write a letter to Governor Ridge (or rather an e-mail since they probably aren't opening mail right now).
20 posted on 10/30/2001 8:20:24 PM PST by Miss Marple
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-31 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson