RISE AMERICA RISE: What America should learn while fighting its Global War with Islamic Terrorism

The following is a message to America from elements in India, the likely author Sudheer Birodkar, likely directive from the RSS Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (The National Volunteers Association) of India. Some of it you may find it historically inaccurate, or very controversial. You may not agree with it. But read on. It is broken into FOUR parts, all of it authored by person(s) of India as a single commentary.

The American War office is exploring the option of fighting terrorism by ejecting the Taliban and replacing it with an Afghan government more amenable to world peace. This is a laudable objective. But does not address the root cause of the scourge because of which the Pentagon and WTC were blown off.

- The problem before us today at Manhattan and Pentagon comes ultimately from a Theology -

The problem before us today at Manhattan and Pentagon comes from Theology-inspired terrorism, based on the theology of Islam. The theology of Islam like any other theology is based on the misunderstanding of the unknown universe as some form of a god. Readers will find this analysis to be fantastically out of track with what happened at Manhattan and Pentagon - but please read on.

- Choices before the Americans in Afghanistan in the light of Afghans being a fiercely proud clannish, tribal Islamic society -

Now let us assume that the American military might with Operation Infinite Justice is able to walk across all over Afghanistan, like the British and Russians before them. The question is can the Americans hold Afghanistan under the new civilian administration that they may set up under President Burhanduddin Rabbani or under former King Zahir Shah?

We do not think so, because the Afghans apart from being a fiercely proud clannish tribal people are also under the clamp of Islam which is the most organised, violent, and virulent form of monotheism.

It has a lot to do with the outcome of this strategy, since we predict an initial American victory in the invasion of Afghanistan. Similar to that of the Russians in 1980. What will follow after this is interesting to predict. The Americans control will be gradually undermined due to popular hatred for the Great Satan. The American established stooge government will be overthrown and what will be established is a fanatically anti-West, Anti-Christian and anti-civilization regime which would be far more desperate and far more dangerous and far more intelligent than the Taliban. Yes this is what will be the outcome, if the Americans today enter Afghanistan to defeat the Taliban; but leave the ideology that gave birth to the Taliban any chance of re-birth. And if it this ideology of theology-inspired terrorism is not rooted out completely and permanently; then even one surviving cancerous cell would be enough to cause the body-politic of Afghanistan to be Talibanized once again. And this time with far more devastating effects internationally.

The USA better understand what it is up against in the Taliban, in theology-inspired terrorism that Taliban epitomizes and the incorrigible nature of violent monotheistic theology.

The USA should put its ear to the ground and hear what the past one thousand four hundred years of the Muslim encounter with the rest of the world has taught us. If this is too much, then the USA can limit itself to what Christendom has learnt from the Jihad in Europe.

- What can the USA learn from Christendom's experience from the Jihad in Europe? -

Christendom has been victorious against the Islamic Jihad only when it has rooted out Islam completely in the regions overrun by the Jihadis.

This is what happened in the year 732, when the Arabs (Moors) were defeated at Poitiers (Tours) near Paris by Charles Martel (or Karl the Hammer). He earned the title "Hammer", due his incessant attacks on the raiding Muslims till none of them survived. There were no Muslims in France from this year till the Algerians started migrating to France in this century.

In Spain when King Ferdinand (and Queen Isabelle) finally threw the Moors out of Cordoba (derived from the Arabic name Qurdubah) and across the straits of Gibraltar (Arabic name Jebel-ul-Tariq) into Morocco in the 15th century, they did not stop till they had either thrown all the Muslims out of Spain or had converted them to Christianity. This any historian will corroborate.

At the end of the First World War in 1919, Bulgaria, Serbia, Greece, etc which were then under Turkish rule, began to undo the damage of 400 years of Turkish Muslim rule. They converted all the mosques to Churches and either reconverted the Muslims to Christianity or threw them out of their countries. The countries that did not do so were Bosnia and Kosovo. And so they face the problem they do today.

All students of history know all this, but many would not want to remember these unsavory events. Unsavory because they involve what is today called ethnic cleansing. And ethnic cleansing is certainly bad. But what do you do when you face an entity that believe in "kill or be killed" and for whom attaining death while killing is martyrdom?

But the situation which involves globally organised theology-inspired terrorists facing the rest of the globe is like a " Man-eater tiger facing a Man" There is not much of a choice for the man, but to become a successful hunter, unless he want to end up as the meal of the unrepentant tiger.

Many Americans and other liberals would say that these this is an extreme positions and the events in France, Spain and Greece happened in a different age. We are in the 21st century now. To them we ask, if they know the real meaning of the Islamic Jihad and while they themselves have become civilized as compared to what their ancestors were 1000 years back, 500 years back or even 100 years back. But how many Muslims have become moderates like you? To answer this question we need to bring under scrutiny the Islamic concept of Jihad.

Jihad - The history of the 14 centuries of Islam bears evidence to the fact that Muslims have never reconciled to having non-Islamic people anywhere in the globe. The Muslim lifestyle may have changed - Jazzy Cars instead of the Camel Caravans, Denims instead of the Dishdashas (the flowing gown of the Arabs), their weapons may have changed from the sword of Allah to the Islamic Atom Bomb. But their outlook remains unchanged - that of the Jihad - to convert all Kafirs to Islam on the pain of death. This attitude is typified today in the proclamation made by Osama Bin Laden, the best known face of international Islamic terrorism of Jehad; "Alarzu Lillah, Walhukmu Lillah." (The Earth belongs to Allah and thus only Allah's rule should prevail all over the earth.) Thus as Islam does not accept co-existence of non-Islamic people anywhere on the globe, it is logical to foresee either a victory of the non-Islamic forces over Islam or vice versa. This victory over Islam would have to be such that would once and for all put an end to the threat of an Islamic victory to civilization the world over.

The USA should bear this in mind before it enters Afghanistan. Enter Afghanistan only if you have the will to crush to its extinction, the root of Theology-inspired terrorism, the cradle of which is Islam. Make no mistake here Americans, the root is Islam. Do you have the will to crush it?? This is the million dollar question.

Pakistan's Role in this war on Terrorism is going to be dubious. Trust them, at your peril and reap the fruits of this trust as you did when you trusted them last in 1979, when you armed them to the teeth to train and ram the Jihadis to fight the Soviets. Whatever the logic of your policy that time, the fact remains that this act has come home to roost at WTC and Pentagon.

Unpalatable as it might be to you, it would help you to learn from this reality while going about trusting Pakistan too much once again this time.

The Pakistanis have begun their dirty blackmail by conditioning their help to you if you solve the issue of Kashmir on their terms. One thing to remember here is that those fighting in Kashmir are the same as those who crashed the civilian airliners into the Twin Towers and Pentagon.

If you Americans desire to eradicate the cancer of Theology-inspired terrorism and to disable it from inflicting wounds on America once again; then you cannot help the Pakistanis to preserve it in Kashmir.

If you, for whatever reasons, decide to do what the Pakistanis are asking you on Kashmir; then this cancer will grow from Kashmir and be virulent enough to strike America once again. It would be worthwhile here to remember that Pakistan as the only nuclear capable Muslim state is not a part of the solution - it is in fact the kingpin of the problem of theology-inspired terrorism.

If the Pakistani leader Pervez Musharraf really had his heart in helping the USA then the demands that he should have made today would have been to help Pakistan to fight out the private rogue armies like the Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Jaish-e-Mohammedi, Sipah-e-Sahaba, etc.

While trying to please you Americans by pledging all support by accepting all conditions, he wants to show you that he is whole-heartedly in the War on Terrorism with you. While on the sly he wants you to fall prey to his blackmail that you should help him on Kashmir for nurturing the same Jihadis there. We need not repeat that it is these same vermin who have savaged America's Pride on the 11th of September. This is a dangerous game that Musharraf is playing with you.

In the heat of the situation, you might not see through his game. Please remember that, in the case of Pakistan and more so the Pakistani Army of which General Musharraf is the leader, you are dealing with the institution that created the Taliban. You are dealing with an institution which is the only Islamic army on this globe that possesses the atom bomb. And you are dealing with a mentality that is ruthless and death-defying in the spread of its ideology of theology-based terrorism -Islam. The Pakistani army and the Taliban are thus a part of the problem of Islam. Make no mistake on this.

Since the problem that the world faces today (made acute by the blasting of Manhattan and Pentagon) comes from Theology-inspired terrorism, based on the theology of Islam. The theology of Islam like any other theology is based on the misunderstanding of the unknown universe as some form of a god. Now you Americans are too motivated by your belief in god. So you too are theists and so would see noting wrong in a person believing in god. The problem lies here. Belief in unknown universe as a god is invalid, but not harmful as long as this belief is not imposed on others. Islam is the most violent expression of imposing belief in god on others. This sums up the problem today. The solution is to root out the evangelization of religion. This would sound incredulous to you Americans who also evangelize Christianity. But then Christianity, though invalid is not dangerous, as long as the Christian missionaries are not violent (and as a rule they are not violent). The Muslims though are violent and as a rule they are violent. Herein lies the acuteness of the problem of an invalid human choice of co-relating with the unknown universe as a god (which all religions are) and evangelizing any form of this concept (which missionary religions are) and enforcing this evangelization with the force of arms (which only the Islamic religion is). For us rational-humanists; this sums up the problem

After this long sermon, you would ask us; so buddy are you with us or are you with the terrorists? And what do you want us to do?

Our answer is that the CORRECT thing to do would have been to resolve the problem of violent monotheism the way it was born. Through giving a choice of either giving up violent monotheism or facing elimination. This may sound too crude. But there is no option. Those who are Muslims today are so, since their ancestors at Mecca (in 632) in Persia (in 640) in North Africa, in Bosnia, in Albania and in all parts of the globe were given a choice of accepting Islam or facing death. Those who survived the first onslaught of Islam were given the choice of remaining non-Muslims by accepting the humiliating treatment that is recommended in the Quran for Dhimmis (people who refuse to convert to Islam).

Since this is how the Islamic problem was born, so this is how it would have to be resolved. The choice to be given to the Muslim countries that the Americans overrun would be to give up the violent theology of Islam (as documented in the Quran) and embrace any non-violent faith; or to face elimination (sorry no soft options here). Crude as this will sound, but we have to face this hard reality for our own survival as a civilized; progress and peace loving human species.

- Any effective solution should prevent any violent missionary religion to ever again hold the world to ransom -

The only different thing that a rational-humanist army would have done in this scenario would have been to give people in the liberated territories a choice to give up Islam and practice non-violent religious faith within the privacy of one's heart or maximum within the four wall of one's house.

Thus the effective solution would be the same - that of not allowing any violent missionary religion to ever again imprison human minds and motivate them to do violent deeds that we saw on the 11th of September at Manhattan and Pentagon.

Can the Americans today work towards ensuring this scenario when they go about the GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM?

A lot of people have huge concepts. They have zones they live in, and watch television as their world is at war. They may have this idea, that maybe the next day they will tune into the news as they go about their daily life, to catch up on their world which is at war, which is an event for sure, but maybe it really isn't because, someone else is going to have to deal with it, not them, they are too busy with these huge concepts. And, it's a nice day and there is this flight they have to catch. Another day, they ready for their flight, and while packing, or waiting at the airport, perhaps they have time to think about these huge concepts. They don't even know, they are on the right plane, but the wrong flight. Yes, it's a 747 or whatever, a plane that takes you there - but they're on the wrong flight. They don't know, they thought they were going this place, but they were going to the other part of the world. They were going to meet some new people, another world that they never really looked into the face of. Perhaps they were just too willing to give everyone a chance, because, maybe they thought that being reasonable is the equivalent of being totally open to anyone, even if it is a stranger, that one will find the answer from a stranger. After all, the stranger may be sincere . . . and indeed, sometimes they are. And for all these reasons, they are now in a plane together. Indeed, the stranger is sincere. The sincerity of this stranger, he is going to change everything. You think you are going this place, but you are going the wrong way very soon. But you won't know, and it's already too late because you got on that plane. So what they thought they were fulfilling in their life, the concepts, are interrupted by someone else's concept. Everyone, or at least some, may think that their concept is protected, somehow, some way. The whole thing falls apart, when they think someone else will protect them so they don't have to worry about it, and simply live in these concepts. They don't have to do it, because maybe their own concepts might get in the way. And then the world that is at war comes home, and walks right into their space. Then they realize, maybe there is something that they forgot to do. Even concepts have to have borders.

there are 5000 dead mangled corpses decaying and contaminating Manhattan which you will never see on tv,Christians shot in a Pakistani church,thousands of Christians in the last week slaughtered in Nigeria,train explosions,coca cola attacks and Kashmiri flare ups in India,Israels defence minister shot,peacemaker in Afghanistan tortured and shot,American tourist beheaded in the Phillipines pleads for mercy....how much sh*t do you need to overload with before you identify the problem?

I don't care whether this guy worships and 8 armed half elephant half crab-he has the real picture.

There is another option-- allowing them to convert to a secularized or tolerant form of Islam as practiced in a narrow civilized corner of the Muslim world-- Turkey, Bahrain and scattered parts of southwest Asia.

Mustafa Kemel Ataturk has earned a place as one of the giants of the last century in taming a religion and turning a nation toward peace. Radical Islamists in Turkey, once influential, are now like gangs in the United States-- a pain in the arse in some areas, but not a worldwide threat.

I agree. I'm on his side. I just think he believes we should accept Hinduism, which is fine with me since he doesn't want to impose it on us.

I love India. Especially the newspapers which are just about the only ones in this world that cover the diplomacy and geopolitics of the day.

Times of India

Hindustan Times

Interesting that he appreciates the underlying purpose of the Spnaish Inquisition: Many Muslims/Jews pretended to convert to Christianity but secretly tried to subvert the Christian state. The Jews were not really dangerous, but the Moors could not reconcile themselves to the humiliation of living under Christian rule and looked forward to "liberation" by Turkish fleets. The Spanish regarded them as a fifth column that had to be rooted out. This is NOT how the English read history, but it is closer to the truth than the conventional wisdom.

More to the point: the author proposes a process like the "denatzification" of Germany after WWI. I am afraid it would end up like the suppression of Catholicism in Ireland by the British. Islam is too deeply rooted in the cultures of these countries. What might work is something more like Ataturk-like modernization. The only problem is that Ataturk was as exceptional as Alexander. Where do we get such men?

An Ataturk is exactly the type of answer for Afghanistan - it, in fact, could be made a reality if our intelligence and our real-politik representatives had the ability that is required at this time to find and support such a man. Despite the odds, I believe it could happen, because this war is in fact about de-evoloution via Islam or our progressive Western civilization - it is truly a war between these two sides. I should point out, there have been many faults in our civilization, which is in fact much broader then "Western", e.g. thank god for the Greeks, Romans, ancient world including Mesopotamia, et all, but keep in mind - Communism, for example, isn't an Islamic outgrowth, but part of our "Western" heritage . . . but even the long-standing anti-communist that I am, I would ally with the communists against this Islamic terror, just as I would ally with the communists against another outgrowth of "Western" ideation, and that is National Socialism. Today's "conservative" is actually the true liberal, or what liberalism was at one time. Today, a liberal is simply someone who wants to destroy our heritage, our liberty, simply because they hate us so much - they would in fact support the 12th Century Taliban even though the regime would take us back centuries, simply if it would mean a cancer upon us.

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