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Scientists complain of thick Antarctic ice
The Age ^ | October 31, 2001 | Unattributed

Posted on 10/31/2001 12:09:18 PM PST by Monitor

AUCKLAND - Global warming might be a popular worry but scientists on Antarctica's coast this southern summer are recording some of the thickest sea ice ever seen, the Antarctic Sun newspaper reported today.

New Zealand's Scott Base and the US McMurdo Sound on Ross Island were blocked in by heavy sea ice, apparently the result of a vast iceberg, the paper reported in its latest edition.

On the other side of the continent, a US research ship in Marguerite Bay on the Antarctic Peninsula has just managed to free itself from extensive ice fields.

The Antarctic Sun, published by Raytheon Polar Services at McMurdo, said an iceberg labelled B15 extended about 300 metres below sea-level, blocking the current of water that usually circulates through McMurdo Sound.

When it first calved off the Ross Sea ice shelf in March last year, B15 measured around 11,000 square kilometres, the size of Jamaica.

At the time it was believed it would drift out into the Southern Ocean and break up, but instead the latest satellite photos Monday showed B15, and the much smaller C16, were parked across McMurdo Sound.

"It's turned this whole area into a mill pond," Ted Dettmar, lead instructor at Field Safety Training Program at McMurdo, told the Sun.

In many years, winter storms blow out the sea ice, leaving open water in July, Dettmar said.

By the time the US Coast Guard ice breakers arrive in December, the ice edge is typically 24 to 32 km away from McMurdo Station.

But this year people wintering at McMurdo Station did not see any open water because of the ice, Dettmar said.

The sea ice was now three metres thick in front of McMurdo, and three to 4.4 metres thick at the Williams Field ice runway, west of Scott Base.

An ice breaker may have to cut through more than 113 km of ice to reach McMurdo.

Dettmar said the ice was flat, without pressure ridges and cracks.

It was also affecting penguins and seals which now have to travel further to access the sea.

A science group studying Weddel seals has found less than 150 adults in the study area, which extends from Scott Base to Cape Evans.

This is less than a third of the number seen by this time last year, said seal scientist Michael Cameron.

"We've known that there's a relationship between ice extent and the number of animals in the study area," Cameron said.

"To my knowledge this is the greatest summer sea ice extent that's ever been recorded in McMurdo Sound," Cameron said.

"Everybody's guess is that it's due to this giant iceberg off of Cape Bird blocking the swells that would normally break up any sea ice in the area."

Last year the sea ice near McMurdo was 40 per cent thicker than usual, and this year it's thicker still.

Meanwhile researchers aboard Nathaniel B Palmer off the Antarctic Peninsula also found heavy ice. They were held in it for several weeks, unable to move.

"They're fine, they're safe, they're doing science," said Al Hickey, marine superintendent for Raytheon Polar Services Company.

"They're just going to play a waiting game. The ship's in no jeopardy, the people are in no jeopardy."


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Must be due to all that global warming [/sarcasm]
1 posted on 10/31/2001 12:09:18 PM PST by Monitor
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To: Monitor
Something tells me it's gonna be a nasty Winter this year...
2 posted on 10/31/2001 12:13:33 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: Monitor
No news here, move along folks. I am certain there are places where the ice is thinner and we can talk about it...
3 posted on 10/31/2001 12:15:54 PM PST by Always Right
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Scientists complain of thick Antarctic ice

There complaining because their junk science-theory of global warming is being refuted.

4 posted on 10/31/2001 12:16:34 PM PST by Mojo-jo-jo
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To: Monitor
Have you ever noticed that the global warming/environmental wacko crowd are similar to true psychotics. No matter what counterevidence you present them with, they will always take it as support for the truth of their theory.

Heavy snowstorms in the East this winter? Of course, global warming is causing weather patterns to shift!
Record cold in Florida? Naturally, a temporary phenomenon that is part of the overall warming cycle!
Unusually think Antartic ice? Yes, yes, this conclusively proves it - global warming is upon us!!

6 posted on 10/31/2001 12:19:33 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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Something tells me it's gonna be a nasty Winter this year...

Last year, all that nasty global warming dropped so much snow on us that I had to shovel the snow off the roof to keep it from caving in. The last time I had to shovel the roof was back in the 70's, when these same idiots who now scream 'global warming' were instead screaming 'mini ice age'.

7 posted on 10/31/2001 12:22:28 PM PST by Monitor
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Not looking to start anything, I'm agnostic to skeptical on the whole global warming biz, but this is not thick ice as a result of cold weather. This is a massive iceberg which had been growing for thousands of years, which calved off of the Antarctic ice shelf. The only story here is that instead of floating out to see, it was so huge that it stayed put, which affected some other bits and pieces in the area. The B15 thing is in fact used as global warming evidence. Last from me on this thread, fire away.
8 posted on 10/31/2001 12:24:47 PM PST by babble-on
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To: Always Right
Hey, there's a newbie whining at you!
9 posted on 10/31/2001 12:25:34 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Monitor
Global warming?

Globalony. Its down to 67 degrees in Southern California. We are freezing.

10 posted on 10/31/2001 12:26:14 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: markfnkl
Have you ever noticed that the global warming/environmental wacko crowd are similar to true psychotics.

Similar? I'd say you're trying to be kind to the psychotics by not associating them with the enviro-wacko crowd.

11 posted on 10/31/2001 12:27:16 PM PST by Monitor
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Ozone holes cause thick ice which is really not thick ice but motivationally challenged water particles caused by SUV emissions and lead paint in Chevrolets built prior to 1957 made all the more noticeable now that we have reverted to Standard Time and cows give milk earlier in the day.
12 posted on 10/31/2001 12:28:02 PM PST by N. Theknow
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To: N. Theknow
I'm hoping for some regional warming in several Islamic countries very soon.
13 posted on 10/31/2001 12:29:19 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: Monitor
Global Warming causes more ice, you know.
14 posted on 10/31/2001 12:29:25 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: babble-on

The figure above shows the monthly temperature deviations from a seasonally adjusted average for the lower stratosphere - Earth's atmosphere from 14 to 22 km (9 to 14 miles). Red is an increase in the temperature from the average, and blue is a decrease in temperature. The large increase in 1982 was caused by the volcanic eruption of El Chichon, and the increase in 1991 was caused by the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo in the Philippines. September 1996 was the coldest month on record for stratospheric temperature.

15 posted on 10/31/2001 12:30:42 PM PST by Monitor
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Laz: Global warming has shortened the hibernation season of Ursa major, thus the Bears fast 5-1 start.
16 posted on 10/31/2001 12:31:23 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: Lazamataz
Global Warming causes more ice, you know.

Yea, in liberal bizaro-world, where up is down, left is right, and wrong is right.

17 posted on 10/31/2001 12:32:40 PM PST by Monitor
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To: tjay; Always Right
*ahem* As the weeks go by on this forum, you'll discover that sarcasm is an oft-used device by many posters.
18 posted on 10/31/2001 12:35:22 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Lazamataz
yes, it either causes more ice, or it makes the sea rise because the ice caps are melting. so any way you look at it, global warming is always responsible :)
19 posted on 10/31/2001 12:37:56 PM PST by sirshackleton
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To: tjay
Yes if it's colder outside it's due to global warming; if it's hotter it's due to global warming; thin ice global warming; thick ice global warming: Global warming is caused by evil capitalism. Global warming - bad therefore capitalism bad. I wonder if anyone ever took into account that the variations in the Suns output might have a + or - effect on the earths temperatures. Naw that couldn't be it it must be evil republicans that impact earths weather patterns.
20 posted on 10/31/2001 12:39:10 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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