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WILL THE FBI CONTROL THE INTERNET?
CCOPS: Concerned Citizens Opposed to Police States ^
| Nov 1, 2001
| CCOPS: Concerned Citizens Opposed to Police States
Posted on 11/01/2001 6:19:25 AM PST by sendtoscott
WILL THE FBI CONTROL THE INTERNET?
Before September 11, Internet service providers were saying
no to the FBI's demands that they install its Carnivore snoop
system on their equipment. Carnivore would let the FBI monitor
the e-mail and Net surfing of *every* customer -- putting each
and every Internet user under warrantless investigation. After
September 11, several big ISPs rushed to comply. That alone was
a big blow for American courage and freedom.
But worse, the FBI has now "discovered" that it's had the
authority all along to *order* every ISP in the nation to
re-configure its e-mail systems to enable broader, easier
FBI snooping. And that's what the police agency is currently
doing, using the Clinton-era Communication Assistance to Law
Enforcement Act (CALEA) as its pseudo authority. The
implementation is expected to take about two months.
Worse yet. The FBI may not only want to watch which Web sites
you visit and see whom you exchange e-mails with. This *could*
be the first step in a plan to enable the FBI to do what cyber-
freedom lovers have long claimed is impossible -- shut down
the Internet (or any part of it) at will. It's technically
possible. Once ALL Internet activity in the nation is flowing
through FBI systems, it's only a matter of technical refinements
for the FBI to be able to control whether the information flows
at all.
Nobody knows for sure whether this will happen. But do you doubt
that the FBI would like to have that power -- and to exercise it
in sometime during the permanent, Orwellian state of emergency
that appears to be our future?
Read all about it at: http://www.politechbot.com/p-02671.html
and http://www.politechbot.com/p-02722.html
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
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To: sendtoscott
Any second now the JBT fans will be here to flame you...
They will exhibit their usual sterling logic: it will never happen, but think how wonderful it would be if it did.
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posted on
11/01/2001 6:22:57 AM PST
by
alpowolf
To: alpowolf
They will exhibit their usual sterling logic: it will never happen, but think how wonderful it would be if it did.
Kinda like the Clintonoid "he would never do something so evil, but its no big deal if he did (or thank God he did)".
To: sendtoscott
The day I signed on the net, I considered myself in the public square and anything I said could and might be used against me.
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posted on
11/01/2001 6:26:10 AM PST
by
LarryLied
To: sendtoscott
I thought Dubya was for the constitution and the rights it tries to protect?
To: sendtoscott
I thought we wanted to win the war to keep our rights, not give up our rights to win the war. Taking away our rights seems a lazy and ill-fated way to fix the problem of not having proper intellgence and competent investigatory agencies. This is a slippery slope that only goes down.
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posted on
11/01/2001 6:35:22 AM PST
by
stilts
To: sendtoscott
Watch them route all internet traffic through central FBI servers, with the generous help of all the spineless ISPs. Any ISP failing to comply with the new order will be pressured, demonized, blackmailed, and coerced into compliance.
Keep an eye out for internet slowdowns or blackouts, caused by who-knows-what the authorities claim (they'll probably blame it on "terrorists"). Once the public gets used to the idea of a sometimes-on, unreliable Internet, they won't question anything if, say, after a big government fiasco, all the bulletin boards (including freerepublic) are down.
The steady march towards totalitarianism continues.
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posted on
11/01/2001 6:40:45 AM PST
by
billybudd
To: sendtoscott
WILL THE FBI CONTROL THE INTERNET? YES
To: sendtoscott
What? If turning this into a police state will help us kill these Arabs, what's your problem with it? You a democrat or something?
Let's Roll.
Let's Roll.
Let's Roll.
Let's Roll.
Let's Roll.
To: billybudd
Any ISP failing to comply with the new order will be pressured, demonized, blackmailed, and coerced into compliance. They'll also get my business.
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posted on
11/01/2001 7:37:46 AM PST
by
joeyman
To: DAnconia55
Your logic is astounding, even more so given the implication of your username. As someone who has lived in a police state before, let me clue you in: once you are in a police state, there's no going back! The only option is to leave the police state (if you can). Given that the US is the freest country in the world, destroying its freedom would not be inconsequential.
To: sendtoscott
It is clear that the marxist scum in congress, federal agencies, and administration are using 9-11 as the leverage for their final shredding of the few aspects of the former Constitution that are still left to us.
These statist elite are having the best time of their political lives with phony laws and regulations that:
- Increase the ability to confiscate property ;
- Support increased SWAT violence;
- Eliminate the last vestiges of privacy;
- Allow un-controlled spying on every citizen's mail, email, and phone conversations;
- Implement phony airport-security rules designed specifically to innoculate all peasants with the love of total government control; and,
- Partner with the banking industry to carefully monitor how the peasants spend their money.
In the meantime, the President continues to sneak the klintoon's final burst of marxist regulations into place.
Does anybody remember how we (at FR) exulted in the nomination and appointment of an Attorney General who claimed he was an avowed supporter of the former Constitution? HAH!
To: LarryLied
You are absolutely correct.
To: sendtoscott
Anyone still got a copy of wildcat BBS software :)
To: sendtoscott
Only if 50,000 Spineless Freepers let them?
To: Merovingian
I marvel that Republicans act surprised to find that our civil rights are now falling faster than they were under Clinton. After all, it was Reagan that first decided to spray paraquat on marijuana that he knew American teenagers were going to smoke and justified it by saying that they were breaking the law and therefore deserved it. That's logic that is barely above Nazi-like thinking. It has always been the law and order crowd that has been the greatest threat to the Constitution. Only with the onset of environmentalism did the liberals become an equal threat.
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posted on
11/01/2001 8:05:09 AM PST
by
stryker
To: billybudd
Sarcasm.
To: Paul C. Jesup
Only if 50,000 Spineless Freepers let them? You a betting man?
To: DAnconia55
"You a betting man?"
Not really.
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