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BREAKING NEWS: David Trimble DEFEATED
News of the World ^ | Today | News of the World

Posted on 11/03/2001 12:00:19 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom

PEACE PROCESS IN TURMOIL

THE peace process in Northern Ireland was plunged into fresh crisis today after David Trimble failed to be re-elected as First Minister.

The Ulster Unionist leader had hoped to be restored as leader of the assembly after the start of IRA decommissioning of weapons.

But two rogue unionists decided to vote AGAINST their leader.

They joined anti-peace agreement unionists ending Mr Trimble's hopes for office.

Mr Trimble branded their behaviour "dishonourable".

The British government now has to decide whether to hold new elections to fill the top posts.

Or they could suspend the assembly once again, this time to give Mr Trimble time to gather more support.


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1 posted on 11/03/2001 12:00:19 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
The press commonly brands the IRA as terrorists and puts the blame for the impasse on them.

I won't excuse everything the IRA has done, but the real intransigeants are the Ulster unionists. They are the ones who have blocked the peace process after the IRA has observed a cease fire for many years now--thus surrendering its only weapon against the Protestant Ascendancy.

Moreover, while the IRA have almost always issued warnings before bombing targets, and have avoided indiscriminate violence against innocent bystanders, the Protestant extremists have frequently murdered at random Catholic civilians who happened to be handy, in pubs, in the streets, and in their homes.

The repudiation of David Trimble as too moderate--even though he has stubbornly refused to deal honestly with the IRA or to match their concessions with anything in return--is another typical sign of Protestant intransigeance.

2 posted on 11/03/2001 12:11:49 PM PST by Cicero
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
Not so "breaking." Posted yesterday. Michael
3 posted on 11/03/2001 12:17:35 PM PST by Wright is right!
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
This story is old news, happened yesterday.

Did you sleep through Friday?

4 posted on 11/03/2001 12:18:22 PM PST by jerod
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To: Cicero
Ulster Unionists are among some of the most intransigent obstacles to peace in Ireland. The UDF has committed appaling acts of terrorism. None of this gives any justiication to the IRA - a terrorist organisation that has for years derailed the possibility of peace and justice for the Irish people by their indefensible campaigns of indiscriminate murder. Horrors have been committed by both sides. Just when peace was near we have this. Shame on them.
5 posted on 11/03/2001 12:22:43 PM PST by Gimlet
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To: Gimlet
Sorry Freepers, I was not aware it was posted yesterday. It was put as Breaking News on the NewsoftheWorld website today. My apologies
6 posted on 11/03/2001 12:40:43 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
I offer my thanks.....I visit FR about six times a day and missed that article. Not exactly a high crime or misdemeanor!!!! Interesting article tho........another piece of mr. bill's legacy.
7 posted on 11/03/2001 12:43:58 PM PST by OldFriend
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
Just last night on Charley Rose Gerry Adams seemed to regard Trimble's defeat as a temporary setback. According to Adams, today and tomorrow there will be retrenchment among the smaller parties who voted against Trimble. Adams suggested that these small parties were out-maneuvered by the hardliners and never really expected Trimble to lose. On Monday another vote will be taken. Trimble may yet become First Leader.
8 posted on 11/03/2001 2:39:40 PM PST by beckett
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I don't have any dog in the fight in Ireland but the fact that the British might suspend the results of the election and hold a new one after giving Trimble time to gather more support seems like a damned undemocratic way to go about running a democracy. We have had several bond elections similar to this where the motive was to wear the opposition down and force the result that the elite wanted.
9 posted on 11/03/2001 3:55:37 PM PST by meenie
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I understand your objections but keep in mind this was not a general election. It was a vote by party leaders, a parliamentary procedure. Under cross community voting procedures, Trimble and nationalist SDLP minister Mark Durkan's bid to be First and Deputy First Ministers must get the support of 50% plus one among unionist members of the assembly and 50% plus one among nationalist members of the assembly.

They failed by a few votes.

The rules allow for re-votes under certain conditions. If those re-votes, which will probably be held on Monday, fail to elect Trimble and Durkan, then a call for a new general election would be required.

10 posted on 11/03/2001 4:49:02 PM PST by beckett
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
Slinging rubbish from the Crossmaglen barracks with a helicopter is just bad economics.

I pray they get it together.

11 posted on 11/03/2001 9:24:23 PM PST by Trailer Trash
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To: Gimlet
None of this gives any justiication to the IRA

What exactly (or generally) gives any justification for the Brits to rule six counties of Ireland?

12 posted on 11/03/2001 10:06:31 PM PST by nolu chan
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To: nolu chan
EMPIRE
13 posted on 11/03/2001 10:14:52 PM PST by Ragin1
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To: nolu chan
Some paperwork in the 1930's.
14 posted on 11/03/2001 10:15:04 PM PST by Trailer Trash
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To: Trailer Trash
Some paperwork in the 1930's.

If memory serves, it was a bit earlier than the 1930's. The partitioning agreement was reached between the Brits and a rep from the 26. And then the Irish fought a civil war over it which ended in 1921 I believe.

The Brits have been there for hundreds of years and there have been repeated uprisings during that time.

15 posted on 11/03/2001 10:34:08 PM PST by nolu chan
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To: nolu chan
Churchill had offered DeValera the six during the Blitz, in return for Irish support for the war effort, but DeValera, that brilliant tactical genius and economics wizard turned him down flat.

They ought to give Ulster dominion status and let Sinn Fein and the Protestant militants fight it out. There was never an independent "united" Ireland, unless you count Brian Boru and his cup of coffee of a kingdom.

16 posted on 11/03/2001 10:51:50 PM PST by lavrenti
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To: sonofliberty2
Indeed, far before Trimble lost, peace was lost

True. Peace was lost about the time Britain invaded and conquered. There has been an Irish uprising approximately every generation for centuries.

generous offer of peace by the British people

Just like the Yanks of old, the Irish can't seem to be properly receptive when met by British offers of generosity.

19 posted on 11/04/2001 12:44:39 AM PST by nolu chan
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