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Turkey to try Islamic militants who declared holy war against US
AP | 11/05/01 | SELCAN HACAOGLU

Posted on 11/05/2001 9:03:25 AM PST by kattracks

ANKARA, Turkey, Nov 05, 2001 (AP WorldStream via COMTEX) -- Turkey will try 12 Islamic militants, some of whom attempted to travel to Afghanistan to fight against the United States, on charges of radical Islamic activities, police officials said Monday.

The defendants belong to the banned Islamic group Selefiler of the Wahhabi movement which originated in Saudi Arabia and has served as an inspiration for Osama bin Laden, the prime suspect in the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States.

Police Chief Ali Kalkan of southeastern Gaziantep city said some group members have left Turkey to join a holy war or "jihad" in Afghanistan against the United States. The men were responding to a call by bin Laden's al-Qaida network, he said.

"We caught five of them when they returned from Iran after failing to proceed further," said Kalkan. "Ten others are believed to be either in Iran or may have already reached Afghanistan."

The arrests were made in a raid on a house in Gaziantep two weeks ago. Seven other suspected members of the group were also detained.

The group members were being monitored by police in a crackdown on radical Islam and attracted authorities' attention when some of them suddenly disappeared.

"We learned that they left to fight a jihad against the United States in Afghanistan," Kalkan said.

The 12 defendants will be tried for involvement in radical Islamic activities, which is a crime in predominantly Muslim but fiercely secular Turkey. Prosecutors have released all but one pending trial.

No trial date has been set yet.

The Selefiler was formed in Istanbul more than 10 years ago with the aim of replacing Turkey's secular government with an Islamic state.

Based on a literal translation of the Quran, Wahhabism rejects mysticism and any veneration of saints or their tombs. The puritanical movement, originating in Saudi Arabia, has also served as an inspiration for some Chechen rebels fighting for independence from Russia, and it has alarmed secular officials across the former Soviet Union.

Members of the group have in the past been arrested for arson attacks on government-owned depots that stock alcohol and on trucks carrying beer as well as for carrying arms. Islam forbids the consumption of alcohol.

By SELCAN HACAOGLU Associated Press Writer

Copyright 2001 Associated Press, All rights reserved


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1 posted on 11/05/2001 9:03:25 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Now this is an ally.
2 posted on 11/05/2001 9:11:03 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
No kidding. The Turks are not screwing around.
3 posted on 11/05/2001 9:14:03 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: kattracks
Good to see that the no-nonsense spirit of Kemal Ataturk is still alive.

I find it interesting that these guys were unable to get any further than Iran, which of course shares a thousand-mile border with Afghanistan.

It would seem that Iran is helping out quietly, in an understated way.

4 posted on 11/05/2001 9:19:23 AM PST by wideawake
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To: a_Turk
ping.
5 posted on 11/05/2001 9:46:22 AM PST by Shermy
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To: kattracks
I ask you to please vote out of office those digbat representatives who have voted to hamper the Turkish fight against terrorism over the past years.

I further ask you to take a more agressive stance toward representatives of terror groups that operate in Turkey, but maintain PR operations in the USA.
6 posted on 11/05/2001 9:55:41 AM PST by a_Turk
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To: kattracks
Members of the group have in the past been arrested for arson attacks on government-owned depots that stock alcohol and on trucks carrying beer
That alone should be reason enough to spank'em..
7 posted on 11/05/2001 9:58:11 AM PST by a_Turk
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To: kattracks
Why bother with the "world-wide" coalition? The U.S., U.K., Turkey, Russia, and Israel is "coalition" enoguh to win the War.
8 posted on 11/05/2001 10:22:47 AM PST by Dixie republican
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To: wideawake
I'm suprised that they'd try to enter from Iran in the first place. Iran hates the taliban about as much as they hate us.
9 posted on 11/05/2001 10:24:13 AM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: Britton J Wingfield
I'm suprised that they'd try to enter from Iran in the first place. Iran hates the taliban about as much as they hate us.
Perhaps for reasons of stupidity?
11 posted on 11/05/2001 11:19:31 AM PST by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
That's as good a guess as any.

Welcome aboard FreeRepublic :)

12 posted on 11/05/2001 11:22:32 AM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: Britton J Wingfield
Welcome aboard FreeRepublic
Thanks, it's good to be here.
13 posted on 11/05/2001 11:38:34 AM PST by a_Turk
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Hi, a_Turk. It seems like the US and Great Britain need a few lessons in how to forestall a jihadist takeover.
14 posted on 11/05/2001 11:41:28 AM PST by ikanakattara
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To: ikanakattara
It seems like the US and Great Britain need a few lessons in how to forestall a jihadist takeover.
Lesson number one. You have the freedom to say those things agreeable:) for there's always room for one more on the shit list.
15 posted on 11/05/2001 11:48:14 AM PST by a_Turk
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To: kattracks
The 12 defendants will be tried for involvement in radical Islamic activities, which is a crime in predominantly Muslim but fiercely secular Turkey.

I hope it is soon to become a crime here, but I'm not holding my breath.

16 posted on 11/05/2001 12:44:03 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: kattracks
It's really unbelieveable that in the 21st centruy some people think they have the right and duty to interfere with the lives of other people--imagine worrying about whether or not your neighbor wants to have a beer--these radical Islamists need to spend more time getting their own acts together--like thinking about whether or not their own spiritual paths are truly religious in nature or whether they just don't want anyone else to enjoy their lives if they don't feel free to think and experience life without a rigid set of rules. I hope that Turkey throws the book at them--let them rot in prison in solitary where they can spend some time in reflection and prayer and be denied worldy pleasures by the order of the state. BTW I despise control freaks who try to run the lives of other people by force and threat.
17 posted on 11/05/2001 1:39:09 PM PST by foreshadowed at waco
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To: foreshadowed at waco
It's really unbelieveable that in the 21st centruy some people think they have the right and duty to interfere with the lives of other people--imagine worrying about whether or not your neighbor wants to have a beer

Or smoke a doobie.

Hey, we're supposed to be going back to living our normal lives. If FR stops having drug policy flame wars, the terrorists win! ;-)

18 posted on 11/05/2001 2:33:23 PM PST by N00dleN0gg1n
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This is a good show-move for Turkey. And the Turkish press is clearly spinning it in a way that many patriotic Americans will be comforted and encouraged by this action. But we should be clear that the Turks aren't doing this for America's sake. The Turkish government is doing it to keep their 'secular' government in power.

The Turks, the Persians and the Arabs have always detested each other, so there is little new here. Wahhabism is Arabic in origin, and that alone puts it on the slate of things to be eradicated in Turkey.

The secular approach in Turkey is embraced by a small but powerful elite. The power situation reminds me a great deal of the last years of the Shah of Iran. Putting our eggs in this basket is a huge mistake, but there is little to choose from in dealing with the Muslim world. It is bizarre in the extreme that Turkey is the best hope the West has for dealing with Islam. But there we are.

The best PR move the Turkish government could make would be to bring the Armenians they slaughtered back from the dead. But genocide cannot be reversed, and since the Turks deny the genocide took place, there is no hope for repenting and reconciling.

19 posted on 11/05/2001 7:08:23 PM PST by father_elijah
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To: father_elijah; *taliban_list
The secular approach in Turkey is embraced by a small but powerful elite.
In reality, less than 20% vote for the religious party.
The best PR move the Turkish government could make would be to bring the Armenians they slaughtered back from the dead.
Those unfortunate incidents happened before the founding of the Republic of Turkey. Let's leave history to the historians.
20 posted on 11/05/2001 7:28:33 PM PST by a_Turk
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