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Martinsville rallies to back assistant chief (homosexuals rebuked)
Herald-Times ^ | 7 NOVEMBER 2001 | Kurt Van der Dussen

Posted on 11/07/2001 5:31:50 PM PST by RoyCohn

If assistant police chief Dennis Nail ever wondered if he had friends, he found out Monday night.

Dozens of residents packed the Martinsville City Council meeting room to speak in his behalf against criticism he has taken for a letter to the Martinsville Reporter-Times Oct. 26.

In the process, the simmering anger of townsfolk against outsiders who judge them bigots spilled over — at the same time many of them said they fully backed Nail's verbal attack on homosexuals in his letter.

One councilman, David Barger, said at the end of the meeting that the support for Nail represented the views of "99 percent" of his constituents.

The issue surfaced when Nail sent a letter as a private citizen to the newspaper, accusing some of the nation's TV networks for sympathizing with the Taliban in their reporting of U.S. bombing that mistakenly hit civilian targets in Afghanistan.

But the veteran police officer, who is the department's liaison to the city's schools, went on to say he was sick of kids not being able to pray in school lest "Hadji Hindu and Buddy Buddha" be offended.

It offended him, he said, to see every TV show featuring "queers" and portraying it as acceptable.

The letter brought a couple of protest letters to the Martinsville newspaper. Mayor Shannon Buskirk and Police Chief Frans Hollanders said that while they told Nail that he should choose his words more carefully, no discipline was necessary because he'd written the letter as a private citizen.

But media coverage of the incident outside Martinsville was more than many townspeople could take, and Monday night they vented their anger about it and their support for their assistant chief and his views.

It began, though, with a plea from a man who grew up in Martinsville and now lives in Indianapolis that the town quit feeding its negative reputation.

"I'm just disgusted; I'm ashamed," John Zody said of Nail's letter. He said it just fueled all the outside perception of Martinsville as a town of prejudice, hurting it elsewhere.

"This is regional, folks, it's not just Martinsville," he told the audience. "The message we're sending here is that we're excusing it."

He asked for a resolution by the council calling on Nail to apologize — but it appeared only one member ever even might have voted for one.

"We do have an image problem," council member and school teacher Sheldon Buskirk said at the conclusion of public comment. He said he always considers that what he says will be viewed in light of his position as a teacher and council member.

"We need to think about what we say before we say what we think," he said.

But overwhelming sentiment was that Nail was not only right to say what he thought, but what he thought was right.

Raymond Means said he'd read the letter and called it "one of the finest articles I ever read in my entire life, outside the Bible."

He drew loud applause when he declared that rather than homosexuals needing protection, "We and our children should be protected against homosexuals.

"It will never be accepted in Martinsville. It will never be accepted in Morgan County," he predicted to more applause.

Another man suggested it would be a good idea if "all homosexuals and their sympathizers should be put on a boat and sunk."

Pastor James Brown of the Union Christian Church in Paragon said Nail spoke for the nation's heritage.

"This nation was founded not on Islam, nor on immoral people, but on the word of God," he said, holding up his Bible and warning the council that to censure Nail would would bring "the wrath of God" upon Martinsville.

Resident after resident rose to laud Nail as a wonderful Christian man. Words like "trustworthy," "honest" and "God-fearing" were used repeatedly. One man called him "a man's man" who didn't try to be "politically correct."

One woman said if all the kids he has affected for good were there, the room couldn't hold them.

Another woman called him a "soul-winner" and "prayer warrior" and warned, "If you reprimand him for anything, may God have mercy on your souls."

Several defended Nail's exercise of his First Amendment right to speak as a private citizen, one man noting that usually it's the police who have to be verbally abused "and just take it."

And almost everybody said they were proud of Martinsville and its values and were sick of hearing what others think of them. Several said they don't think much of Bloomington or Indianapolis.

Finally Nail himself spoke, thanking people for their support and saying the only thing he regretted was "bringing heat on my chief and my mayor."

But he would not take back his words, he said, because someday he will stand for judgment before God "and I'll have to answer to Him" if he doesn't stand up for God's word.

Nail's daughter, Sharisse Nail, rose after her dad to say what happened to America on Sept. 11 was no accident.

"Open your eyes, America," she said. "This wasn't a surprise. It was coming our way. Abortion. Queers."

Mayor Buskirk didn't pull any punches, either, saying he was infuriated by a recent radio show from Columbus before Nail's letter, mocking Martinsville as the home of bigoted expressions.

"The liberals can say anything they want, but let the conservatives say the first thing …" he said.

"I've never apologized for being from Martinsville," he said to loud applause.

When it was over, lone protester Zody was even more distressed than before.

"All I've heard tonight is more hate," he told the gathering.


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1 posted on 11/07/2001 5:31:50 PM PST by RoyCohn
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To: RoyCohn
Welcome to FR. Considering the subject of this post -- uh, interesting name.
2 posted on 11/07/2001 5:34:48 PM PST by dighton
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To: dighton
Thanks, I like to tweek the pro-sodomy crowd who hate to hear anything but endorsements of their lifestyle. Looks like at least one town in the midwest isn't afraid to stand up against them.
3 posted on 11/07/2001 5:42:30 PM PST by RoyCohn
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To: RoyCohn
Thanks, I like to tweek the pro-sodomy crowd who hate to hear anything but endorsements of their lifestyle.

Then I'll ask a stupid question: why that name? In other words, Roy Cohn was a -- well, you know.

5 posted on 11/07/2001 5:54:33 PM PST by dighton
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To: dighton
"Then I'll ask a stupid question: why that name? In other words, Roy Cohn was a -- well, you know."

PRECISELY! The PC gay crowd don't like to acknowledge that any more than they will admit that Jeffrey Dahlmer was one of them or even Mohammed Atta. They only want to paint rosy pictures of their degenerate lifestyle, but we know better.

6 posted on 11/07/2001 5:57:45 PM PST by RoyCohn
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To: RoyCohn
I live near Martinsville and an AP version of this story was in my local paper. That story talked about the guy being racist. To me he sounds more anti-Islam, anti-Buddhist and anti-gay than racist. But in Indiana, Martinsville has the reputation of being a racist town. Years ago a young black woman was murdered there - still unsolved - and there have been KKK marches off and on (Not that other Indiana towns haven't had KKK marches, too). There are also allegations that visiting black athletes were met with racial slurs when coming to town for high school sports. With the town having that reputation, journalists tend to tag anything controversial coming out of Martinsville as "racist."
7 posted on 11/07/2001 6:01:06 PM PST by bleudevil
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To: xp25
Personally, I would rather that police spend time arresting people actually hurting other people (yes, that includes pedophiles) than worrying what consenting adults are doing behind closed doors.
8 posted on 11/07/2001 6:03:47 PM PST by bleudevil
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To: bleudevil
So you consider AIDS and it's tremendous costs a 'victimless' crime and just another lifestyle choice that we need to tolerate?
9 posted on 11/07/2001 6:16:23 PM PST by RoyCohn
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To: RoyCohn
Bump
10 posted on 11/07/2001 6:21:43 PM PST by Robert Lomax
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To: xp25
A few courageous men...
11 posted on 11/07/2001 6:23:52 PM PST by rebdov
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To: RoyCohn
What are we going to do, have police burst into people's houses and make sure they're having sex with the right gender?

I'm not "for" homosexuality but I don't sit around and obsess on how much I dislike it, as some Freepers seem to.

I don't dispute that the man has a right to his opinion. Speaking as a Hoosier, though, I think we would be better off worrying about the single-parent and never-married parent rate than about gays. And concerning disease, I bet more Hoosiers will die of diabetes brought on by eating too much than from AIDS.

12 posted on 11/07/2001 6:28:45 PM PST by bleudevil
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To: bleudevil
I'm not "for" homosexuality

Then are you willing to steer your kids away from that lifestyle? If you are willing to do that and encourage other parents to do the same, then that is half the battle. Then again, are you one of those households with 'two mommies'?

13 posted on 11/07/2001 6:37:37 PM PST by RoyCohn
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To: RoyCohn
Dennis Nail is a hero! How refreshing to hear someone on my side exercising their first amendment rights. I'm a proud Hoosier that can relate to Mr. Nails's brave commentary. Its because of the liberal Herald Times Bloomington paper that this made news. Martinsville is just like most communities in Indiana except its neighboring town 15 minutes south happens to be Bloomington. Home to Indiana University of which is an ultra liberal collage run amuck with homosexuals pushing their sick agendas. BTW the real reason Bobby Knight was run out of IU was because he is a conservative and strict disciplinarian. Folks like him the IU homos can't tolerate!
14 posted on 11/07/2001 7:14:45 PM PST by jaybe
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To: RoyCohn
I'm straight, no kids.
15 posted on 11/07/2001 7:55:58 PM PST by bleudevil
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To: RoyCohn
Go here and vote to applaud Dennis Nail! Scroll down to the bottom of the page: http://www.hoosiertimes.com/
16 posted on 11/07/2001 7:58:56 PM PST by jaybe
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To: RoyCohn
Another man suggested it would be a good idea if "all homosexuals and their sympathizers should be put on a boat and sunk."

Sounds like a swell group of folks. At least he didn't include any remarks about "Johnny Jews".

17 posted on 11/07/2001 8:05:14 PM PST by sakic
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To: xp25
IMO Sodomy should be a Criminal Offense.

With the penalty being?

18 posted on 11/07/2001 8:06:15 PM PST by sakic
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To: bleudevil
Personally, I would rather that police spend time arresting people actually hurting other people (yes, that includes pedophiles) than worrying what consenting adults are doing behind closed doors.

Shooting heroin is still illegal and it is almost always done by consenting adults behind closed doors. The problem is the cost associated with homo lifestyles, both medical, and spiritual. Because of them for example, the Boy Scouts get booed and defunded. Demographic and objective statistical evidence of the damage homos wreak on themselves is legion. High suicide rates (because of mean intolerent bigots of course), high substance abuse rates (ditto), radically reduced average lifespan, and of course STDs including AIDS. Anything else that caused such misery would clearly be illegal.

Homosexuality is about as harmless as drunk driving, russian roulette, and injecting heroin (except in this case its an RHBI injection).

19 posted on 11/07/2001 10:08:49 PM PST by lafroste
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To: bleudevil; RoyCohn
What are we going to do, have police burst into people's houses and make sure they're having sex with the right gender?

Well by all means, go stomp the crap out of this man's First Amendment rights to speak his thoughts!

There was NO mention of police bursting into people's houses. Damn, but the pro-homo cheerleaders keep pressing the same buttons. It gets rather comical when they are this far off topic.

20 posted on 11/08/2001 5:52:49 AM PST by FormerLib
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