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Poker-faced Putin raises the stakes at Texas table
FT.com ^ | November 11 2001 20:35 | FT.com

Posted on 11/11/2001 1:22:50 PM PST by CommiesOut

Poker-faced Putin raises the stakes at Texas table

Published: November 11 2001 20:35 | Last Updated: November 11 2001 21:30

As President Vladimir Putin prepares to fly to the US to meet George W. Bush, many Russians hope that his gamble in so closely supporting their former Cold war enemy in the fight against terrorism produces some concrete results.

While officials in both countries have been playing down expectations over the last few days, observers believe Mr Putin needs to bring back some significant concessions from this week's talks at the White House and the Bush ranch in Crawford, Texas.

Few doubt Mr Putin made a historic step on September 24, when he offered the US intelligence co-operation and air corridors, and withdrew any objections to the Central Asian states hosting foreign troops.

He then promised to close two symbolic remnants of the former Soviet presence abroad - its bases in Cuba and Vietnam - and has increasingly hinted at a new flexibility in interpreting the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) treaty.

The question is what will be necessary to ensure that the new-found alliance lasts, and Mr Putin maintains the domestic support he seeks to pursue such pro-Western policies.

Mr Putin has been statesmanlike in insisting that he is not bargaining but simply responding to the threat of terrorism, which threatens his country as well as the US.

"Russia is not expecting any preferences or payment for its position in supporting your country in the fight against terrorism," he told ABC television last Wednesday.

But Dmitri Trenin, deputy head of the Carnegie Moscow Centre think tank, says: "Russia will not publicly ask for anything, but it would appreciate the West being forthcoming in response to its needs. It is very important for Putin to show that he is not naive like Gorbachev, or uncaring like Yeltsin, but is developing a pragmatic relationship."

Vladimir Lukin, a senior member of the pro-Western Yabloko party, hinted at the stakes last week when he said that no-one asks for a reward before helping to put out a fire next door, but "it is a different thing when your neighbour thanks you, if he is a decent man, after we have extinguished the fire together".

Russia has already begun to gain from its position, which Mr Putin has stressed was reflected in measures he had begun to implement long before September 11.

Donald Evans, the US Commerce Secretary, has given political impetus to a new wave of interest in foreign investment, recognising Mr Putin's pro-market economic and institutional reforms and conservative fiscal policy.

Negotiators say there has been a growing US willingness in the past few weeks to support Russia's status as a market economy as part of plans to ease its swift integration into the World Trade Organisation - a priority for Mr Putin.

Earlier this month the White House began talks on repeal of the 1974 Jackson-Vanik amendment, which limited trade from the Soviet Union in retaliation for restrictions on Jewish emigration. The amendment irritates Russia today, despite being regularly waived by the US administration.

The White House, along with several European governments, has also tempered criticism of Russia's hard line in the breakaway republic of Chechnya. The US rhetoric has shifted from stressing human rights abuses and the need for a settlement, to the links between Chechen rebels and international terrorism.

Furthermore, leaks over the past few days suggest Mr Bush is now willing to cut the number of US strategic nuclear weapons to as low as 1,750 - far deeper than his previous policy and in line with Russian demands. He has already stalled missile tests viewed by Russia as potential violations of the ABM treaty.

That leaves a long wish-list raised by different interest groups, including fresh write-offs of Russia's Soviet-era debt.

But Mr Putin himself has stressed the desirability for everyone that his country be politically and militarily integrated into the contemporary international world, and over the weekend he called for Russia to have a decision-making role within Nato. Alexander Vershbow, the US ambassador to Moscow, hinted this month that once the ABM talks were resolved, there was scope for a broader strategic relationship with Russia. It might include greater Russian involvement in Nato, joint decision-making to combat terrorism, and a new US-Russia treaty.

For the moment, both sides are keen to play down excessive hopes for short term developments. Igor Ivanov, Russia's foreign minister, and Condoleezza Rice, Mr Bush's National Security Adviser, argued in the last few days that a comprehensive new strategic framework would not be in place this week.

"I don't see Crawford as the turning point," says Mr Trenin. "It's one of many turning points which hopefully will re-orient Russia-US relations into a quasi-alliance. It maintains the momentum for discussions which are a golden opportunity to deal with the vestiges of the Cold war."



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1 posted on 11/11/2001 1:22:51 PM PST by CommiesOut
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2 posted on 11/11/2001 1:23:10 PM PST by CommiesOut
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To: CommiesOut
The smartest man I know tells me that Putin is both a Christian and a closet Republican.
3 posted on 11/11/2001 1:30:55 PM PST by onyx
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fyi
4 posted on 11/11/2001 1:44:37 PM PST by GretchenEE
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To: CommiesOut
So far, Putin seems to be a pretty OK guy. He does, however, look like he could kill you in 7 seconds with piano wire without his heart rate going up at all. But maybe that's because of his KGB training.
5 posted on 11/11/2001 2:15:14 PM PST by wimpycat
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To: onyx
2000.02.22

New World Order and Serbs - Part XX

WHO IS THE REAL PUTIN?

He is lean, tough, scrupulous and a born-again Christian. No wonder Vladimir Putin is the most
popular politican in his home country. By a country mile. No wonder the unscrupulous, cowardly,
godless fat cats of the New World Order, who applauded when NATO “Uebermenschen”
(supermen) were killing women and children in Serbia last year when they weren’t bombing
wooden MiG and tank dummies, are sounding a “Red Alert?” (in a Wall Street Journal editorial Jan.
24, 2000). In a typical style of communist propagandists - tell a lie, omit some truth, tell the victim
he’s uncouth - the Journal editors were calling Russia’s acting president a Stalin sympathizing
communist.

Once upon a time, Winston Churchill described Russia as a "riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an
enigma." But that was back in the days when Joseph Stalin ran the Kremlin communist show; when
things were “red” and “white,” if not black and white in Russia. And when the American and British
people were supposed to forget Stalin’s murderous crimes against their Christian brothers in
Russia, because this FDR (Franklin Delano Roosevelt) and Churchill pal was killing more German
(Christians, again) than Russians during WW II.

Nowadays, however, things are far more complicated in Russia. Who is the real Vladimir Putin? A
former KGB apparatchik, who has been biding his time pretending to be a “reformer,” until he got
to power when he is showing his true communist nature? That’s certainly the prevailing view of the
New World Order (NWO) Russophobic commentators.

Or is Putin a new “savior of Mother Russia,” a true patriot who will restore this vast country to its
former place as a world superpower?

Or is he just another “here today, gone tomorrow” Russian politician, just like a series of prime
ministers whom the former Russian president, Boris Yeltsin, had recycled through the Kremlin’s top
management post.

Ever since the Truth in Media ran the piece, “Putin Putting Russia Back on World Powers Map,” TiM
GW Bulletin 2000/1-2, Jan. 5 (which has been subsequently republished in Russian in Moscow and
in Serbian in Belgrade - see my Jan. 18 Beograd.com column), we’ve received lots of interesting
feedback from the TiM readers in Russia and around the world.

To the skeptics I replied that, the jury is still out on Putin. But with passing week this January, the
world could see more signs which suggested the point two above may be the most likely. Here’s an
excerpt from my Jan. 10 comment sent to a Russian TiM reader, now living in Baku, Azerbaijan:

“The jury is still out on Putin. My own mind's not made up about him, either. But his early moves
have been encouraging. Such as firing Dyachenko (Yeltsin's daughter), for example, and going
down to Grozny on New Year's Day. And that's all we can go by. For now...
 

Since Jan. 10, of course, Putin has made quite a few other moves which reaffirmed my initial
assessment. Such as firing on Jan. 11 Pavel Borodin (of the “Yeltsin family”), and demoting Mikhail
Aksyonenko (of the “Berezovsky family”). And his doing an end-around the “reformists” in the
Russian Parliament, whom he frustrated enough to shoot themselves in the foot, by boycotting a
crucial session of the Duma in late January.

But perhaps the most surprising and revealing part of Putin, which may have caused all the wrath
the godless NWO commentators unleashed on him, was that, far from being a hardcore
communist, Russia’s new popular acting president may be a born-again Christian.

It was Orthodox Christmas Eve (Jan. 6), and Vladimir Putin went straight to the essence of the
Christian understanding of the holiday. "Why did Christ come into the world?" he said, apparently
speaking without prepared text, or a teleprompter. "To liberate people from sickness, troubles,
from death. In its essence, Christmas is a holiday of hope."

Putin's Jan. 6 remarks were vastly different from the conventional holiday pronouncements by
Russian politicians, who usually confine themselves to praising the role of the Orthodox Church in
Russian history, and in promoting social harmony.

Putin's remarks could have come straight from a sermon.

“As the world tries to understand the often-inscrutable acting president, attempting to figure out
what exactly he did as a KGB officer in Germany and an aide to the mayor of St. Petersburg, at
least one of his personal characteristics is becoming clear: He is an active Orthodox Christian with
a more than passable knowledge of the faith,” the Moscow Times reported on Jan. 21.

When Putin became president on Dec. 31, he specifically asked for the Russian Patriarch Alexy's
blessing for the three-month transitional period. And Putin received it, as the Russian news
agencies and television reported.

Putin also made the sign of the cross and listened attentively during the televised Christmas
service in the newly opened Christ the Savior Cathedral in Moscow (which Stalin had razed).

At the Church of the Life-Giving Trinity on the Sparrow Hills, where Putin stopped by for half an
hour on Christmas Eve, people could easily tell he was a real believer. "You can instantly tell if a
person is a believer or not," Priest Alexander Antipov, who serves at the church, said in an
interview with the Moscow Times on Jan. 18. "Putin is a believer."

"He was the first politician who asked for the Holy Patriarch's blessing," he said. "If any cause
begins with prayer, it is already good. It means that the person has a moral basis in life. Let's
hope!"

A prominent Orthodox priest in Moscow who asked not to be identified said he had talked with
Putin about matters of faith before he became prime minister, and confirmed that he is a
"believing Orthodox man."

But did you ever hear about any of this - in America, a predominantly Christian country (America),
and the “land of the (supposedly) free?” I certainly haven’t. I’ve only learned this from our Russian
sources. Instead, Americans been inundated with various Russophobic comments.

One exception is the Newsweek, which reported in January that Putin became religious three years
ago, after rescuing his two daughters, now ages 13 and 14, from a fire at a “dacha” (country
home) near St. Petersburg. Journalist Yevgenia Albats, who co-authored Newsweek's profile of
Putin, said she had received the information from "a very close friend of Putin's," according to the
Moscow Times.

Priest Maxim Kozlov, dean of Moscow State University's St. Tatyana Chapel, said the fact that Putin
is a believer does not necessarily say much about him as a politician. "But it gives us hope that a
person, who understands himself as an Orthodox Christian, would refuse to do certain things in
politics," Kozlov said. "Unfortunately, we cannot say the same about others. There, money rules
everything."

A man who “has a moral basis in life” has become the head of the only country in the world with
the means to confront the world where “money rules everything.” No wonder the Journal is calling
Putin a communist and is sounding a “Red Alert.” For, the Wall Street-centered New World Order
based on a “might is right” principle may be starting to unravel. And that’s something America’s
Main Street should cheer.

But unraveling of the “NWO empire” did begin in Serbia, a country known as the “graveyard of
empires.” As one Russian reader recently put it, “the Serbs stand like a rock and fall like a cliff.”
The “tsunami” which the fall of Kosovo has caused is yet to reach America. And it may be a while
before it crashes on our shores. But it is certainly on its way, via Russia, India and China.

And it all started as NATO’s bombing of Serbia ended last year… The Serbs and the 250 Russian
troops executed a Slavic version of American football’s “end around” play last June, snatching the
sophisticated and heavily fortified underground Pristina (Kosovo) Slatina military airport right
under the noses of their gleeful but klutzy NATO “Uebermenschen.”

It was from that day forward, June 11, 1999, that Boris Yeltsin became merely a model for a
future wax figure in a New World Order museum. And that the epitaphs for Bill Clinton, Tony Blair,
Gen. Wesley Clark or Madeleine Albright were already written.

After that, it was just a matter of time before the official Russian foreign policy began to reflect the
reality of Cold War II. Yeltsin’s appointment of Putin, a total unknown in the West, to the post of
the prime minister on Aug. 9, was the first step. Yeltsin’s stepping down as Russia’s president on
Dec. 31, completed his transition from a president to a wax figure. (Notice even God’s symmetry
with the way Yeltsin cam to power - failed coup in August 1991, Gorbachev’s resignation in
December 1991?).

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6 posted on 11/11/2001 2:20:06 PM PST by Lent
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To: Lent
Thanks, I really enjoyed that article from TruthInMedia.
7 posted on 11/11/2001 2:38:38 PM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: GretchenEE
Good read! Thanks for the ping!
8 posted on 11/11/2001 2:40:46 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc
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To: MadIvan
fyi
9 posted on 11/11/2001 2:42:32 PM PST by GretchenEE
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To: Lent
Thanks so much for the article. You're a remarkable guy. I learn from you.
10 posted on 11/11/2001 2:42:55 PM PST by onyx
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To: Lent
Another thanks bump.
11 posted on 11/11/2001 2:50:52 PM PST by CommiesOut
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To: CommiesOut
It would truly be a miracle from God for Putin to turn his country around. GWB, and many of us will be praying it happens.
12 posted on 11/11/2001 2:51:08 PM PST by demkicker
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To: Lent
Thank you for the TiM read.
13 posted on 11/11/2001 2:55:25 PM PST by GretchenEE
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To: Carol-HuTex; Gracey
You forgot to add the Mexicans and the other Latin nations you despise, to your inane comment.

Who's the hater, Carol?

15 posted on 11/11/2001 3:09:53 PM PST by onyx
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To: wimpycat
LOL

Although that KGB training neglected to relieve him of the natural human facial reponses to questions that are dead give aways to a lie. I noticed this in his 20/20 interview, very telling to say the least. He's quite the readable guy if you know what to look for, which is why the title of this thread made me LOL.

17 posted on 11/11/2001 3:21:42 PM PST by Flipyaforreal
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To: Flipyaforreal
I saw excerpts of the Barbara Walters interview this morning on Sam and Cokie's show. I told my husband, "I bet she won't make HIM cry." I didn't try to read his face or body language for signs of deception. I know there are ways to tell if someone is lying or not, but I wasn't trying to read his face. It's just an overall impression I have of him. Maybe it's because I've never seen a picture of him smiling or laughing.
18 posted on 11/11/2001 3:30:03 PM PST by wimpycat
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To: onyx
i don't know about his theological leanings, but he sure could pass for a conservative

the russians, not us, are now operating under a 13% FLAT PERSONAL INCOME TAX, thanks to putin

private real estate ownership just became legal in large cities, thanks to putin

the list of initiatives goes on, and the russian economy will perform relatively better than we will in the foreseeable future

as for huff-and-puff-tex, m. thatcher is appropriating my recent estimate of iq being "somewhere between the body weight of calista flockhart and room temperature" after an equally inane comment on another thread

19 posted on 11/11/2001 3:59:11 PM PST by AntiScumbag
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To: AntiScumbag
Thanks for your comments, most enlightening.
20 posted on 11/11/2001 4:04:24 PM PST by onyx
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