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Global Eye - Weather Report [Russian Press asserts Starr predicts the curtailment of liberties]
The Moscow Times ^ | November 10, 2001 | Chris Floyd

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:04:35 PM PST by nemo

 Saturday, November 10, 2001

 Global Eye -- Weather Report

 By Chris Floyd

 It won't come with jackboots and book burnings, mass rallies and
 fevered harangues. It won't come with "black helicopters" or tanks on
 the street. It won't come like a storm -- but like a break in the
 weather, that sudden change of season you might feel when the wind
 shifts on an October evening: Everything is the same, but everything
 has changed. Something has gone, departed from the world, and a new
 reality has taken its place.

 As in Rome, all the old forms will still be there: legislatures,
 elections, campaigns -- plenty of bread and circuses for the folks. But
 the "consent of the governed" will no longer apply; actual control of
 the state will have passed to a small group of nobles who rule largely
 for the benefit of their wealthy peers and corporate patrons.

 To be sure, there will be factional conflicts among this elite, and a
 degree of free debate will be permitted; but no one outside the
 privileged circle will be allowed to govern or influence state policy.
 Dissidents will be marginalized -- usually by "the people" themselves.
 Deprived of historical knowledge by an impoverished educational system
 designed to produce complacent consumers, not thoughtful citizens, and
 left ignorant of current events by a media devoted solely to profit,
 many will internalize the force-fed values of the ruling elite, and act
 accordingly. There will be little need for overt methods of control.

 The rulers will often act in secret; for reasons of "national
 security," the people will not be permitted to know what goes on in
 their name. Actions once unthinkable will be accepted as routine:
 government by executive fiat, the murder of "enemies" selected by the
 leader, undeclared war, torture, mass detentions without charge, the
 looting of the national treasury, the creation of huge new "security
 structures" targeted at the populace. In time, this will seem "normal,"
 as the chill of autumn feels normal when summer is gone.

 It will all seem normal. President George W. Bush signed an executive
 order last week overturning a law requiring the release of presidential
 papers 12 years after the end of an administration, The Associated
 Press reports. Bush officials say the president has "reinterpreted" the
 law -- ordinarily the job of the Supreme Court under the old republic --
  to mean that no papers can be released unless both the current
 president and the former president in question agree to it.

 Historians, journalists or ordinary citizens seeking information about
 the actions of past administrations will have to file suit to show
 a "demonstrated, specific" need for access to the blocked material. The
 mere assertion of a "right to know" about governmental affairs will not
 be sufficient. Such a right no longer exists.

 A Bush spokesman acknowledged that anyone requesting to see such
 documents would be tied up in expensive court battles for years. But
 the use of executive fiat to abrogate the function of the Supreme Court
 and overturn a law passed by the people's representatives was necessary
 to protect "national security," the spokesman said.

 Of course, a sitting president already has the authority to withhold
 any past documents that might endanger national security. But Bush's
 new edict will allow the quashing of presidential papers that might be
 politically embarrassing or reveal criminal behavior by past
 administrations.

 Seem normal. Former special prosecutor Kenneth Starr predicts that the
 curtailment of civil liberties, including the use of torture, will be
 approved by "at least five Supreme Court justices," The Washington Post
 reports. (No points for guessing which five.) The Quiescent Quintet
 will gladly give "heightened deference to the judgments of the
 political branches with respect to matters of national security," says
 Starr.

 Indeed, the Bush administration is now openly considering the use of
 torture to compel testimony from suspected terrorists -- or anyone
 designated as a suspected terrorist, Slate.com reports. True, a few
 girlie-men are still fretting about "constitutional rights," but the
 clever dicks in the Oval Office have that one sussed: Recalcitrant
 prisoners can always be exported to friendly regimes, like Egypt or
 Kenya, where they don't bother with such prissy concerns.
 Information "extracted" there can then be used in U.S. trials.

 Wouldn't evidence acquired by such heinous and unconstitutional methods
 be thrown out by the courts? Ordinarily, yes -- under the old republic.
 But in America's new weather, the judiciary will no doubt "give
 heightened deference to the judgments of the political branches," etc.
 And if all else fails, a handy executive order can always "reinterpret"
 the constitution to accommodate the needs of "national security."

 Normal. Armed with the sweeping new powers of the "U.S.A. Patriot Act"
 passed late last month, the Bush administration is acting to "shift the
 primary mission of the FBI from solving crimes to gathering domestic
 intelligence," The Washington Post reports.

 In other words, the feds will move from protecting the people to spying
 on them. The CIA has also been given authority to take part in domestic
 surveillance and investigation for the first time. These
 domestic "black ops" will be overseen by a secret court appointed by
 the chief justice -- William "Top Quint" Rehnquist.

 Like the chill of autumn. This week President Bush demanded that
 Congress pass his "economic stimulus" bill by the end of the month, The
 New York Times reports. The bill would give $25 billion in federal
 money directly to the nation's wealthiest corporations, including IBM,
 GM and GE, refunding taxes they paid over the last 15 years. In all,
 the bill will give $112 billion in tax breaks to the wealthiest
 individuals and corporations over the next two years.

 It won't come like a storm. It will all seem normal. Like a break in
 the weather, a shift in the wind.


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This doesn't look very encouraging.
1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:04:35 PM PST by nemo
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To: nemo
bump.
2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:04:40 PM PST by ventana
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To: nemo
But the "consent of the governed" will no longer apply; actual control of the state will have passed to a small group of nobles who rule largely for the benefit of their wealthy peers and corporate patrons.

This has already happened. The population of the country is clamoring for closed borders, sending non citizens home, putting Americans to work, keeping Mexican trucks in Mexico, etc. Yet "a small group of nobles who rule largely for the benefit of their wealthy peers and corporate patrons" seems to evaluate everything, domestically and internationally, in terms of corporate profits, cheap labor, and expanding global markets.

3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:04:42 PM PST by grania
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To: nemo
It won't come like a storm. It will all seem normal. Like a break in the weather, a shift in the wind.

For all the talk of how the country would move to the right with this administration, we seem to be going even further left.

4 posted on 11/16/2001 1:04:43 PM PST by riley1992
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To: riley1992
This is the Moscow Times after all...
5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:02 PM PST by DB
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To: DB
And your point is? Nothing that was stated in regards to what is going on is untrue, is it?
6 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:04 PM PST by riley1992
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To: nemo
Indeed, the Bush administration is now openly considering the use of torture to compel
testimony from suspected terrorists -- or anyone designated as a suspected terrorist,

Suspected terrorists? Covert sneak & peak "surveillance"?

who will be the next target? Maybe you?

7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:06 PM PST by WhiteGuy
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To: riley1992
The national anthem may have to have "the land of the free" part removed.
8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:06 PM PST by nemo
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To: riley1992; DB
It was in the Moscow Times by a writer named Chris Floyd. If you do a search on his name and read some of his articles/opinions, you have to wonder if this is what Ken Starr really said, or is this what Mr. Floyd has regurgitated.
10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:10 PM PST by World'sGoneInsane
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To: World'sGoneInsane
I am not debating the supposed talking points of Ken Starr. I am saying that the Patriot Act, etc. information is not inaccurate simply because it is being read in the Moscow Times.
11 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:11 PM PST by riley1992
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To: nemo
George W. Bush is an American Patriot. This is not where we are going!
12 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:11 PM PST by Securo
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To: nemo
And the sad part is, this isn't the half of it.
13 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:12 PM PST by IW
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To: nemo
Kenneth Starr predicts the curtailment of civil liberties.

What took him so long?

15 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:13 PM PST by It'salmosttolate
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To: riley1992
Do you really believe the five conservative Supreme Court justices are going to uphold torture as constitutional? You really believe Ken Starr said that? And who exactly in the administration has suggested using torture? The rumors fly and you buy…

It was claimed not long ago that Bush was going to ask for national ID cards when in fact he opposed them. I guess truth doesn't matter…

You can go off the deep end if you want, I'm not going to follow you.

16 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:13 PM PST by DB
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To: DB
As I said a few replies up, I am not claiming there is veracity in what he said Ken Starr stated. I am saying the finer points of the piece, Patriot Act, et al, cannot be dismissed out of hand simply because it comes from Moscow.
17 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:17 PM PST by riley1992
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To: riley1992
I am not debating the supposed talking points of Ken Starr. I am saying that the Patriot Act, etc. information is not inaccurate simply because it is being read in the Moscow Times.

You are saying it is not inaccurate, I am saying it is questionable. Ken Starr did not author this article. While you seem worried about losing civil liberties, you should be equally concerned with a slanted press.

18 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:17 PM PST by World'sGoneInsane
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To: Securo
George W. Bush is an American Patriot. This is not where we are going!

"Dissidents will be marginalized -- usually by "the people" themselves."

19 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:18 PM PST by Beenliedto
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To: *BillOfRights
Bump
We are loosing our freedom because the Christian haters have eliminated morality from our society. No morals eguals no rights from god. That leaves us with just man made rights that can be taken away or changed as opposed to god given rights that cannot be taken away.
20 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:18 PM PST by Khepera
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