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France is running out of priests
Guardian (UK) ^ | 7 November 2001 | Jon Henley

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:04 PM PST by Zviadist

French bishops, meeting in Lourdes this week for their annual conference, have not even put it on the agenda. But it is the most pressing problem for the once-mighty Roman Catholic church in France: it is running out of priests.

"It's the church's biggest unspoken post-war scandal," said Rémy Chauvin, who published a vitriolic attack this week on the church hierarchy, unambiguously titled The Devil is in the Font. "They are just burying their heads in the sand."

Fewer than 100 novices will be ordained this year, according to Mr Chauvin, compared with more than 1,000 a year 40 years ago.

Because of the shortage mass is no longer celebrated regularly in thousands of rural parishes, and many bishops have had to import priests from abroad.

During the summer 15 young priests from Senegal, Ivory Coast, Burkina Faso, Madagascar and the Democratic Republic of Congo arrived in the southern city of Perpignan to reinforce a hard-pressed ecclesiastical team which already included three Swiss fathers, two Dutch, four Belgians, three Algerians and a Mexican.

The strain is felt hardest in rural areas, Mr Chauvin said, citing the case of the Lot-et-Garonne department. Ten years ago it had 201 priests; now it has 122. Just 40 of these are available to meet the spiritual needs of 439 country parishes harbouring 305,000 souls in an area of 5,400sq km.

The hierarchy has so far played down the problem, insisting that rural depopulation is the main cause, and that if the French countryside has no priests, it has few public services, fewer shops and a dwindling number of inhabitants.

Mr Chauvin has calculated that the average age of France's 20,400 Catholic priests is over 65 and that within 10 years fewer than half of them will be active. Either that, or more will have to follow the example of Father Casimir Maury of Arignac in the Ariège, still occupying the village presbytery at the age of 101 because no one can be found to replace him.

"These days we have to do two or even three weddings on the same day, which was inconceivable a decade ago," the doughty Fr Maury said.

"And we've had to hand over many of our traditional tasks, even teaching the catechism, to lay workers. But we do our best."


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Funny, the traditionalist and SSPX seminaries are full with waiting lists. We held a second collection two weeks ago for a traditionalist Benedictine Roman Catholic monastery in New Mexico that was desperate to add-on becuause of its long waiting list.

Isn't it wonderful how successful the Vatican II turned out to be?

1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:04 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Uh Oh, the post-concilar church is running out of liberal propagandists. Couldn't be related to the Council. No, that's impossible...
2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:04 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
Reconciliation between the SSPX and the Church would take care of France's problem in short order.

But the dying leftist hierarchy in France was the most stubborn opponent of reconciliation. Shows where their priorities are.

3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:05 PM PST by wideawake
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To: patent; sinkspur
Hmmm, I seem to recall one of you posting not too long ago that the priest shortage was a myth.
4 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:05 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
The French have excellent cheese.
5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:05 PM PST by Zorobabel
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Might also help if the French had more babies too.
6 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:05 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: Zviadist
Rescind the unwarranted 12th century imposition of priestly celibacy and you'd fix the problem in a minute.
7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:05 PM PST by LN2Campy
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To: wideawake

Reconciliation between the SSPX and the Church would take care of France's problem in short order.

Hear hear! Fat chance of that, though, because the corrupt leftist heirarchy would have to implicitly accept that they have been wrong all along, and that VatII did not produce the renewal they had promised. Think of all the souls that have been lost due to the destruction of the Church. Methinks some folks will eventually have to pay -- perhaps not in this life, but...

8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:06 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
I am no catholic, but this makes me so sad. No just from a religious point of view, but also the upcoming death of the countryside that modernity is imposing upon all of us.
9 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:07 PM PST by NewAmsterdam
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To: LN2Campy
Isn't that wierd that the same country that worked with the Roman Catholic Church to kill off the Knights Templar are now facing a shortage of priests? Maybe they could change their doctrine a bit?
10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:07 PM PST by samuel_adams_us
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To: Zviadist
By the way, have a look at this, you'll love it

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/570788/posts

11 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:08 PM PST by NewAmsterdam
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To: Zviadist
France and Canada (and to a lesser extent, the U.S.) have political leanings so far left that they are teetering on the edge of the earth. It's no surprise that these countries don't have any priests when the Church there deliberately turns away traditional, prayerful Catholic candidates in favor of leftist loonies, pederasts, flakes and iconoclasts. They DELIBERATELY close parishes and merge others, whining about the "priest shortage," but ignoring the pleas and heartfelt cries of the laity for TRADITIONAL priests. You are correct; there are waiting lists at all of the TRADITIONAL seminaries, world wide. What is there about this message that turns these bishops so BLIND??? Here is my latest take on blind bishops: Sheep in Wolves' Clothing
12 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:08 PM PST by redhead
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To: Zviadist
It's those French chicks, I tell ya. Oh, la la...
13 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:08 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: Stingray51
bump
14 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:09 PM PST by Rodney King
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To: Zorobabel
The French have excellent cheese.

Yessir. It's..ah,.....it's a bit runny...

15 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:09 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck
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To: Zviadist
When the Vatican tolerates France stealing the churches and the government owning them and distributing them through the interior ministry to legal national religions at the violation of separation of church and state, you have the ingredients for a slow death of worship coupled with government taking a hold of the power of the church.

This is what liberals want by the way in the US of A. ie. a liberal theocracy.

16 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:10 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: samuel_adams_us
First, if you were familiar with the history of the Knights Templar you would know that the French monarchy, and not the Holy See, led the charge against the Templars. You would also know that the Templars did plenty to spark the enmity of the King.

Furthermore, Catholics in Poland don't hew to a doctrine any different than that of Catholics in France, yet Poland has a surplus of priestly vocations.

17 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:10 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Zviadist
The solution is simple: female priests.

(It's at this point that I will learn what an ignorant Catholic I truly am.)

18 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:10 PM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Zviadist
France is running out of priests

No problem, France has lots of mullah's now to replace priests.

19 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:10 PM PST by Anticommie
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
The solution is simple: female priests.

(It's at this point that I will learn what an ignorant Catholic I truly am.)

Tugger, you forgot the smiley face. Now if you were serious we would have to remind you that the Church has no authority to ordain women. They might as well try to ordain a house cat for all effect it would have.

Christ chose men to be His Apostles. If He intended to call women to His priesthood He would have called a woman or two to be Apostles. He didn't. We consider Christ's example as what we follow. We don't consider Christ a "pretty good God, but kind of backwards about feminism."

SD

20 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:31 PM PST by SoothingDave
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