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Safire: Seizing Dictatorial Power
The New York Times ^ | 11/15/2001 | WILLIAM SAFIRE

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:55 PM PST by Pokey78

WASHINGTON -- Misadvised by a frustrated and panic-stricken attorney general, a president of the United States has just assumed what amounts to dictatorial power to jail or execute aliens. Intimidated by terrorists and inflamed by a passion for rough justice, we are letting George W. Bush get away with the replacement of the American rule of law with military kangaroo courts.

In his infamous emergency order, Bush admits to dismissing "the principles of law and the rules of evidence" that undergird America's system of justice. He seizes the power to circumvent the courts and set up his own drumhead tribunals — panels of officers who will sit in judgment of non-citizens who the president need only claim "reason to believe" are members of terrorist organizations.

Not content with his previous decision to permit police to eavesdrop on a suspect's conversations with an attorney, Bush now strips the alien accused of even the limited rights afforded by a court-martial.

His kangaroo court can conceal evidence by citing national security, make up its own rules, find a defendant guilty even if a third of the officers disagree, and execute the alien with no review by any civilian court.

No longer does the judicial branch and an independent jury stand between the government and the accused. In lieu of those checks and balances central to our legal system, non-citizens face an executive that is now investigator, prosecutor, judge, jury and jailer or executioner. In an Orwellian twist, Bush's order calls this Soviet-style abomination "a full and fair trial."

On what legal meat does this our Caesar feed? One precedent the White House cites is a military court after Lincoln's assassination. (During the Civil War, Lincoln suspended habeas corpus; does our war on terror require illegal imprisonment next?) Another is a military court's hanging, approved by the Supreme Court, of German saboteurs landed by submarine in World War II.

Proponents of Bush's kangaroo court say: Don't you soft-on-terror, due-process types know there's a war on? Have you forgotten our 5,000 civilian dead? In an emergency like this, aren't extraordinary security measures needed to save citizens' lives? If we step on a few toes, we can apologize to the civil libertarians later.

Those are the arguments of the phony-tough. At a time when even liberals are debating the ethics of torture of suspects — weighing the distaste for barbarism against the need to save innocent lives — it's time for conservative iconoclasts and card-carrying hard-liners to stand up for American values.

To meet a terrorist emergency, of course some rules should be stretched and new laws passed. An ethnic dragnet rounding up visa-skippers or questioning foreign students, if short-term, is borderline tolerable. Congress's new law permitting warranted roving wiretaps is understandable.

But let's get to the target that this blunderbuss order is intended to hit. Here's the big worry in Washington now: What do we do if Osama bin Laden gives himself up? A proper trial like that Israel afforded Adolf Eichmann, it is feared, would give the terrorist a global propaganda platform. Worse, it would be likely to result in widespread hostage-taking by his followers to protect him from the punishment he deserves.

The solution is not to corrupt our judicial tradition by making bin Laden the star of a new Star Chamber. The solution is to turn his cave into his crypt. When fleeing Taliban reveal his whereabouts, our bombers should promptly bid him farewell with 15,000-pound daisy-cutters and 5,000-pound rock-penetrators.

But what if he broadcasts his intent to surrender, and walks toward us under a white flag? It is not in our tradition to shoot prisoners. Rather, President Bush should now set forth a policy of "universal surrender": all of Al Qaeda or none. Selective surrender of one or a dozen leaders — which would leave cells in Afghanistan and elsewhere free to fight on — is unacceptable. We should continue our bombardment of bin Laden's hideouts until he agrees to identify and surrender his entire terrorist force.

If he does, our criminal courts can handle them expeditiously. If, as more likely, the primary terrorist prefers what he thinks of as martyrdom, that suicidal choice would be his — and Americans would have no need of kangaroo courts to betray our principles of justice.


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1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:55 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Another useful idiot.
2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:55 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Pokey78
AGYG <----shaking head....doesn't know where to begin with ol' Safire....there's just too much here....
3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:56 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Pokey78
Why isn't the FDR precedent apt? Just how is there a material difference between the German saboteurs landed in this country that FDR had tried by military tribunal, and the noncitizens suspected of terrorism today?
4 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:57 PM PST by aristeides
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To: jwalsh07
Safire neglects to mention that Lincoln's temporary suspension of the writ of habeus corpus was a constitutional act, and that the military trial of the German spies was according to the directive of FDR.

Bush has not suspended the writ of habeus corpus; rather, similar to FDR's move, he has taken in hand to treat potential attackers as the trained soldiers / mercenaries that they are, rather than the garden variety of civil criminal.

5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:57 PM PST by Ironword
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To: Pokey78
Quote of the Day by Faraday
6 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:57 PM PST by RJayneJ
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To: Pokey78
This is too silly for words. The people will be with Bush on this one. The 'disloyal opposition' is simply mad that THEY didn't think of this. Pretty smart research on the part of some Bush or Ashcroft staffer.
7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:58 PM PST by SmartBlonde
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To: Pokey78
Pathetic...
8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:58 PM PST by TheDon
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To: aristeides
Just how is there a material difference between the German saboteurs landed in this country that FDR had tried by military tribunal, and the noncitizens suspected of terrorism today?

Well, the new infiltrators claim to have weapons of mass destruction, while the Germans only had high explosive. So that's one difference.

10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:58 PM PST by Clinton's a rapist
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I think Safire has some valid points. Should they rule the day? Not so sure.
11 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:58 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Pokey78
Bump
To read later
12 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:58 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: virgil123
If even Safire is this outspoken against Bush's abuse of our legal system, the President better begin backtracking before he has a civil war on his hands

Wow, do you think so? Gosh let me know the regiment you are building so I can join. I have to see the uniforms first though.

13 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:59 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Pokey78
Mr. Safire: You are obviously exhibiting the illogic and irrationality of a person in stress. I advise you take a vacation, a long vacation.

The paramilitary cult of filthy THUGS who murdered thousands of Americans does NOT deserve ANY of our constitutional rights. These miserable terrorists are WAR CRIMINALS who viciously murdered innocent civilians from over 60 different countries.

YOU, Mr. Safire, are obvious out to lunch; now, go on an extended vacation, and take some books along about CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY BY WAR CRIMINALS.

14 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:59 PM PST by meridia
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To: SmartBlonde
"This is too silly for words. The people will be with Bush on this one. "

Right. The people will love it. Dictatorial power? Please!

15 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:59 PM PST by Theresa
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To: TheDon
Totally pathetic. Execute civilians? That is totally laughable.
16 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:59 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: jwalsh07
Was that a self-description?
17 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:00 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: Pokey78
a president of the United States has just assumed what amounts to dictatorial power to jail or execute aliens...ok by me, and no I don't care about they came for the scum but I looked away and then they came for me crap.
18 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:00 PM PST by RWG
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To: Pokey78
Nonsense. Acts of war or conspiracies to commit acts of war are a different class of crime and require military tribunals and their necessarily swift trials and penalties to effectively safeguard national security and innocent life. Knowing they will face swift justice will cause most would-be terrorists to find another hobby or another state target. I am sure the Founders would have come to the same conclusion. Good call, Mr. President.
19 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:00 PM PST by Havisham
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To: Pokey78
I spoke with a conservative national editor tonight about how the War on Terrorism abroad has become the War on the Constitution at home. He gave me the standard response these days about extreme times calling for extreme measures--it was almost word for word what I heard liberal Roger Cossack of CNN saying on a radio interview earlier.

I stated that it will be interesting to see how much of the Patriot Act will survive review by the Supreme Court. He thought about it, and then said alot of it will be thrown out by the the Court.

It's incredible, as an American, to watch as so many of my fellow citizens openly talk of torture and truth serums, sneak and peek, secret trials with secret evidence and other Soviet atrocities as being necessary for the survival of our freedom.

It reminds me of that saying from a few wars ago,"We had to burn the Constitution in order to save it."

20 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:01 PM PST by kristinn
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