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America's 'Palestinians'
World Net Daily ^ | November 15, 2001 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:58 PM PST by alloysteel

President Bush says he wants to see a Palestinian state carved out of Israel.

He may be surprised some day soon when that statement and his recent actions in support of it come back to bite him.

Why?

Activists who see themselves as "America's Palestinians" are gearing up a movement to carve out of the southwestern United States – a region (called Aztlan) including all of Bush's home state of Texas – a sovereign Hispanic state called the Republica del Norte.

The leaders of this movement are meeting continuously with extremists from the Islamic world, and you can read for yourself how they have been inspired by the Palestinian cause, and even adopted the most vicious forms of anti-Semitism in the process, by reading their own words on their own website.

"There are great similarities between the political and economic condition of the Palestinians in occupied Palestine and that of La Raza in the southwest United States," explains an editorial from earlier this year in La Voz de Aztlan in Los Angeles, the city seen as the future capital of the new Hispanic state.

Los Angeles, you see, is the southwestern U.S. version of Jerusalem.

Ridiculous? It didn't go unnoticed among the Aztlan activists when Los Angeles Mayor James Hahn told Mexico's President Vincente Fox last week, "Los Angeles is a Mexican city."

The editorial goes on to draw analogies between the Arab uprising in Israel and gang violence in Los Angeles. It's the same thing, the activists claim. This is not crime and punishment, according to the La Raza (literally, "The Race") activists, this is the birth of an independence movement by young Hispanics.

"The similarities are many," says the editorial. "The primary one, of course, is the fact that both La Raza and the Palestinians have been displaced by invaders that have utilized military means to conquer and occupy our territories. The takeover of our respective lands by foreign elements occurred 100 years apart. For La Raza, it happened in 1848 when Mexico lost the southwest at the end of the Mexican-American war and the signing of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidlago. For the Palestinians, it occurred in 1948 when the Zionist Jewish People's Council gathered at the Tel Aviv Museum and signed the 'Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel' on the day in which the British Mandate over Palestine expired."

Are you getting the picture?

This idiotic movement takes on special meaning, however, after Sept. 11.

There is a growing body of evidence to suggest terrorists have used America's unpatrolled, unguarded borders with Mexico and Canada to infiltrate our country and to bring in arms and munitions. It's about time the American people learned there is an organized fifth column of U.S. activists who would be only too glad to assist Islamic terrorists in their jihad against the Yankee imperialists. This is an alliance long in the making.

But please keep in mind what I am telling you today. This is not a column about illegal aliens. This is not a column about problems with the border. This is not a column about how our culture is being changed by mass migration. This is a story about a movement to create a new state within the borders of the continental United States.

And the logic and rationale for this movement is the same logic and rationale (if you can call it that) being employed to make the case for a Palestinian state. Americans need to understand this argument can and will be used against them – soon.

Fidel Castro has, not surprisingly, lent his support to this independence movement. California politicians pay lip service to it and kowtow to its demands. It may seem irrelevant. It may seem innocuous. It may seem like little more than an annoyance. But today – after Sept. 11 – it represents a national security threat.

Meanwhile, President Bush ignores this budding "intifada" in his own back yard and chooses, instead, to tell the Israelis they must carve up their own tiny state to make a homeland for dangerous radicals who want only to destroy them.

And remember, these independence movements are never really about the creation of autonomous states. Instead, they are diversionary movements designed, ultimately, to destroy existing states – in the Middle East, Israel and in the West, the United States of America.


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Keep in mind we wrested this land away from Spain and its successor state, Mexico, fair and square, by simply occupying it and booting them out. If sustained with enough gumption, these challenges come to nothing. But sometime, in the future, another fool much like the "Former Occupant of the Oval Office, 1993-2001" will agree that these claims are valid, and simply give away almost a quarter of the contiguous 48 States. Comes of not defending your borders.
1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:58 PM PST by alloysteel
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To: alloysteel
--agree completely. And furthermore , the Spanish and the Mexicans had probably less legitimate claim on it than we do--also, we've done something with it better than erecting temples in which "volunteers" got their hearts cut out while alive--
2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:07 PM PST by rellimpank
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also, we've done something with it better than erecting temples in which "volunteers" got their hearts cut out while alive--

At least two of my grandfathers were killed by Indians, but I try to go easy on American treatment of the continent's natives. We had our troubles; were no more or less "moral" than the Indians regardering "murder."

3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:08 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: rellimpank
VP Cheney said last night on 20-20, something about Mexico when asked about a possible list of terrorist supporting states. Interesting...? I missed the context I'm sure.
4 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:08 PM PST by Arizona Pard
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To: alloysteel; dennisw; Yehuda; veronica; Sabramerican; Lent
For present and future reference: Palestine, USA
5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:08 PM PST by American Preservative
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To: alloysteel
Some very anti-semitic stuff from a site called La Vozde de Aztlan was posted here once for a nano-second. I don't judge Hispanics by this group at all.

But this sect Farah writes about is scary and dangerous.

6 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:09 PM PST by veronica
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To: alloysteel

Keep in mind we wrested this land away from Spain and its successor state, Mexico, fair and square, by simply occupying it and booting them out.

Sheeeeeeettt..... They stole it from the Indians or at least tried to. Mexico "owned" that real estate for all of 25 years while Spain had "claimed" it for a longer time. No big deal if we wrested from them. We upgraded our side of the border while their side is a friggin mess.
7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:15 PM PST by dennisw
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To: alloysteel
"Get off this land!"

"What for?"

"Because it's mine."

"Where did you get it?"

"From my father."

Where did he get it?"

"from his father."

And where did he get it?"

"He fought for it."

"Well, I'll fight you for it."

Carl Sandburg

8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:36 PM PST by wildbill
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To: alloysteel; dennisw; veronica; Illbay
Keep in mind we wrested this land away from Spain,Mexico, fair and square, by simply occupying it and booting them out

Finally, a historical question of land transfer not related to the middle east.

Illbay, help me here. We didn't steal New Mexico, Texas and Arizona, did we? I thought we bought it from the Mexicans, who bought it from the Mexicans.

9 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:54 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Sorry, I thought we bought it from the Mexicans, who bought it from the Indians.
10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:55 PM PST by SJackson
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To: veronica
Was that about the Mossad agents supposedly arrested in Mexico City shortly after 9/11? It was pulled from here.

I know one of those types and from the way she gets, they will be as irrational as the fanatics we are dealing with currently. I fear things will never really get better. There are too many movements not in sync with the American vision.

11 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:55 PM PST by Aliska
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To: alloysteel
Bump for another great article by Farah.
12 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:56 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: truth_seeker
I beg to differ slightly. We were somewhat more moral and didn't set out initially to kill them. They forced our hand by constantly attacking the settlers. Of course, they were here first.

This article is well worth reading - long but it's from Lion Gardiner's journal (my 8th great grandfather is mentioned several times in it):

Exerpts from Lion Gardiner's Journal

Mostly what the Englishmen did was in self defense, but they had to fight or be killed to the last man. A tiny snippet from the above link:

"Then three days after the fight came Waiandance, next brother to the old Sachem of Long Island, and having been recommended to me by Maj. Gibbons, he came to know if we were angry with all Indians. I answered No, but only with such as had killed Englishmen."

The above account will not be found in modern history books and it is similar to what we are now being forced to do in Afghanistan as one who plows through the entire exerpt will conclude. That's pretty much how it really was in those days.

13 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:00 PM PST by Aliska
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To: truth_seeker
At least two of my grandfathers were killed by Indians, but I try to go easy on American treatment of the continent's natives. We had our troubles; were no more or less "moral" than the Indians regardering "murder."

Thats mighty white of you! I love America...its the greatest country anyone ever stole!

14 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:02 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
Thats mighty white of you! I love America...its the greatest country anyone ever stole!

I would be interested in learning what your statement means.
In other words, what are you trying to say?

15 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:04 PM PST by Octar
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To: Octar
Truth_seeker said "I try to go easy on American treatment of the continent's natives."

well, I meant what I said! oh..maybe I should explain that part of my family origionates from the continents natives. Nice of him to take it easy on them. I didnt mean anything derogatory, I love America...and simply put..it is the greatest nation anyone ever stole. It wasnt discovered...at least not by anyone from Europe. Im sure my ancestors woudl be interested in knowing that they were lost.

16 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:45 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
What do you think your ancestors "owned"?
17 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:49 PM PST by Octar
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To: Enemy Of The State
Thats mighty white of you! I love America...its the greatest country anyone ever stole!

I probably didn't make myself clear enough. In spite of having ancestors killed by Indians, I have no anger, or claim to moral or other superiority. Although there was more than ample land for everyone to settle, America's treatment of natives, particularly in the west, is nothing for America to be proud of.

Canada did a better job, but it still results in a lot of problems.

I am with you. I love America. If I could have my way, we would treat natives as well as possible.

One grandfather and uncle (his brother) were killed in 1706 in Maine. They had come from the Channel Islands in 1671. Another grandfather was killed in Indiana, in 1812. His son (another grandfather) was injured in the same (unprovoked? sneak attack at their cabin). In 1812 they had been there 5 or 10 years, so it wasn't like they had just come upon the place, and taken it. In spite of this experience, this family later converted to Mormonism, which held Indians in special regard.

18 posted on 11/16/2001 1:22:07 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Octar; truth_seeker
"What do you think your ancestors "owned"?"

Simply put: The land that the US Government continued to take from them before they arrived on this continent and the land that they continued (into present day) to take from them. I agree with truth_seeker, there was more than enough land for both civilizations to share. The US govt. made numerous land deals with the NATIVE Americans only to swindle it from them later. Even in present day the Native Americans still dont receive even as many rights as the African Americans.

19 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:12 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: alloysteel
"And remember, these independence movements are never really about the creation of autonomous states. Instead, they are diversionary movements designed, ultimately, to destroy existing states – in the Middle East, Israel and in the West, the United States of America"

Exactly, Give them an Inch and they will take a MILE.

20 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:54 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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