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New Abortion Statistics: Irish figure highest on record
Irish Family Planning Association ^ | Nov 9, 2001 | Unknown

Posted on 11/18/2001 4:44:57 AM PST by Happygal

The Irish Family Planning Association has said that the latest abortion statistics for Ireland show that, regardless of whether or not there is a referendum on the issue, the number of women traveling to the UK for abortions will continue to increase.

The IFPA was commenting on figures released today by the UK Office for National Statistics which show that, during the second quarter of 2001, a total of 1,715 women who had abortions in the UK gave Irish addresses.These second quarter figures are the highest on record for any quarter and show an increase of 19 on the first three months of the year. In the first quarter, 1,696 women traveled from Ireland to the UK for abortions.

“At this stage, we can assume that the end-of year figure will surpass last year’s total of 6,500 and will probably reach 7,000. The clear message behind these figures is that, regardless of whether or not there is a referendum on abortion in the spring, the reality will remain the same: Irish women will continue to leave our shores for abortions services in the UK and elsewhere,” according to Tony O’Brien, Chief Executive of the Irish Family Planning Association.

As the Government attempts to pass legislation which has the narrow objective of over-turning the Supreme Court ruling in the X case, it will simply bury its head in the sand when it comes to confronting the reality of Irish abortion.The Taoiseach has said that the woman’s right to travel will be reaffirmed in his new abortion proposals, but this simply gets him off the hook. By exporting our abortion figures, the Taoiseach and his Government can remain unaccountable for the continued increase in the number of women traveling for abortions.

"Just a week out from the anniversary of the All Party Committee’s report on abortion, the only thing that has changed is that our abortion figures have increased. No new money has been spent on preventative and education programmes and the new Crisis Pregnancy Agency remains aspirational.

"The hours of debate currently underway in the Dail on the Government’s Bill to overturn the X Case would be better spent on debate and action concerned with reducing the number traveling to the UK. Furthermore, these figures point to the need for a morerealistic approach to abortion in Ireland,” added Tony O’Brien.


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And so Ireland awaits ANOTHER abortion referendum. Ye know what bothers me? Why is it that everytime their is a referendum in this country, and the nation votes contrary to leftist views, the Government thinks `oh well, the dumb voters got it wrong. We'll give them another few years, and foist another referendum on them.' I'm not just talking about the abortion issue. I think the public spoke loud and clear in respect of the Nice Treaty also.

As for the introduction of abortion into the country, personally I'd like to see something seriously done with the state of the health service in general first. Waiting lists for operations increase - often public patients must wait years for a routine op!

I can just see it now, a girl goes to her doc and tries to schedule an abortion. She gets her appointment when the child is starting school!

1 posted on 11/18/2001 4:44:57 AM PST by Happygal
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To: Happygal
Gal:
A visitor from Co Down (I know, I know!) was happily amazed at plentiful availability and short waiting times for healthcare procedures here in Arizona.
But she also said "YOU have to pay for it?" "Oh God!"
Best,
kj
2 posted on 11/18/2001 5:00:28 AM PST by KirklandJunction
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To: KirklandJunction
Well, I have my own private healthcare policy even though I am forced to pay PRSI to assist public health care. Regardless, waiting lists are still incredible. (I have a personal gripe here as my mother died recently (I believe) as a result of being undiagnosed because of hospital waiting list delays.)

Down, I imagine falls under the British health service, no?

3 posted on 11/18/2001 5:08:27 AM PST by Happygal
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To: Happygal
Gal:
My condolences to you on the death of your Mother. That hurts like hell no matter what.
Yes, Down is on the British Health thing.
Down, to my tourist eyes, is all loyal to UK......except when it comes to criticizing London, England, etc. Then they sound like rabid Scots or Welsh.
P.S. I'm told that while looking at antiques here, she said "Ach, that's not GOOD crystal, no, not at all!"
You can guess what town name she said was really good crystal!
Best,
kj
4 posted on 11/18/2001 5:23:23 AM PST by KirklandJunction
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To: Happygal
So England is killing Irelands babies for them. How charitable of them.
5 posted on 11/18/2001 5:31:36 AM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Happygal
Why is it that everytime their is a referendum in this country, and the nation votes contrary to leftist views, the Government thinks `oh well, the dumb voters got it wrong

It’s not just Ireland the left resent the freedom of the Ballot box and will always use lies and ‘compassion’ to get their way. They infest schools, colleges and media to get their propaganda across. This is why freedom is not free and democracy requires eternal vigilance

If the left can remove that vigilance and make those who are vigilant look foolish they have won. This is why the enforcement of abortion and other left wing anti-human activity cannot be defeated if we only scratch the surface.

For issues of the left to dissipate a free press must be returned. This leads to a freely elected government which in turn liberates schools and colleges from the stranglehold of the left, and therefore public opinion is not guided by one faction only.

How can we recognise the forces of the left? – follow the money – the abortion industry is huge and controls many politicians and media – and there are many waiting in the wings who would be happy to benefit from this support.

Until the left has been removed from is position of influence then they will always be back again and again referendum after referendum. Until they win then it's "time to put the past behind us."

The left have always used imaginary figures to support their theories so the figures quoted by IFPA should not be treated with any credibility.

6 posted on 11/18/2001 6:00:30 AM PST by Free_at_last_-2001
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To: Aquamarine
Jonathan Swift's satire terribly close to true, huh. These are the days...
7 posted on 11/18/2001 6:01:17 AM PST by Cleburne
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To: Cleburne
I just read you profile page and had to tell you that my Great Grandfather was a Lieutentant in the Conferate Army. He survived it, but later died from complications he suffered during it. Before he died he built the first monument to the Conferacy in Cheraw S.C., he carved it out of a beautiful piece of Italian marble.
8 posted on 11/18/2001 7:18:47 AM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Aquamarine
Never believe statistics coming from the wolves who are guarding the henhouses. Anybody who gets an abortion can get one anonymously. Anyone can say they are from Ireland.

There is no verifible tracking of these claims because of of the "bogus Right to Privacy Law" innate in the creation of our U.S. Supreme Court ruling.

I hope that today's Irish young women have not forgotten so easily their heritage and their families' former persecution by population control through immediate starvation.

We Americans were stupid enough to believe the Planned Parenthood's and population controllers' figures of abortions and those who died by illegal abortions, let's hope my Irish people are smarter than we ignorant American Irish were.

9 posted on 11/18/2001 11:27:00 AM PST by victim soul
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To: victim soul
Amen to what you said.
10 posted on 11/18/2001 1:56:48 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: victim soul
I may be wrong, but I think this referendum will row back a ruling by the Supreme court here allowing abortion under circumstances where the mother claims to be suicidal. The left fear the referendum because it will coperfasten the right to life and allow abortion only if the mothers life is genuinely in danger. (They are already claiming that the present law is similar to the taliban regime... yada yada...). The compromise to the abortionists is that the "morning after pill" will be freely available.

At least a successful referendum will row back the ridiculous rulings in the courts. Hard cases (X-case) make bad law and I agree that it is impossible to get a true figure on the rate of abortion.

11 posted on 11/19/2001 12:37:27 AM PST by Colosis
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To: Colosis
I think I read somewhere that Gerry Adams said his Sinn Fein/IRA organisation would support abortion 'over my dead body'. The wimmin seem to have said 'so be it' because they now support limited abortion.
12 posted on 11/19/2001 1:52:45 PM PST by Norn Iron
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To: Happygal
The public largely ignored the referendum on the Nice treaty.

By the narrowest of margins, in a record low turnout, Ireland has voted against endorsing the Nice treaty that opens up European Union membership to many Eastern European counties.

The result of the referendum on June 7 came as a shock to the political establishment in Dublin, which had uniformly backed a “Yes” vote. Opinion polls on the eve of the referendum had predicted the measure would pass comfortably.

The referendum was held after a very short campaign and saw a turnout of just 35 percent by Ireland's 2.9 million registered voters. Only two constituencies out of 41 returned a “Yes” vote, with the “No” camp totalling 529,478, a majority of only 76,017 votes (53.87 percent).

13 posted on 11/19/2001 1:59:39 PM PST by Norn Iron
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To: Norn Iron
So what's yer point? It was still rejected? Were those who turned out completely disinterested? (I voted Yes btw). But I accept the view of the populace.
14 posted on 11/19/2001 4:04:23 PM PST by Happygal
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To: Happygal
I think the public spoke loud and clear in respect of the Nice Treaty also.

The message I get from the referendum was not one of rejection. It was either, "What's the point? They'll do what they want anyway" or "I don't give a damn".

The result looks like APATHY 66%; YES 16%; NO 18%.

The EU response/directive was: "Keep asking the question until the answer is yes!"

15 posted on 11/20/2001 3:15:02 AM PST by Norn Iron
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To: Norn Iron
Where ya been??? I missed you xoxoxoxoxo
16 posted on 11/20/2001 3:22:43 PM PST by constitutiongirl
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To: victim soul
Never believe statistics coming from the wolves who are guarding the henhouses.

Exactly what I was thinking. If someone can kill another human being, they certainly aren't above lying.

17 posted on 11/20/2001 3:28:53 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Happygal
Glad to see that the land of my ancestry still have some sense left.

While we get the Kennedys(Although Reagan made up for it).

18 posted on 11/20/2001 3:35:17 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Norn Iron
The EU response/directive was: "Keep asking the question until the answer is yes!"

Kind of like voting for school budgets in Upstate New York where they always cut the kids' sports teams and extracurricular activities first!

19 posted on 11/20/2001 4:09:59 PM PST by victim soul
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To: constitutiongirl
Just messing about.

Perhaps the abortion referendum is an election stunt. Sinn Fein/IRA is in favour of limited abortion and it gave the Irish establishment a bloody nose in the Nice treaty vote.

Maybe this is Ahern's way of getting his own back in advance of or in tandem with the Irish General election in 2002. Just a thought.

20 posted on 11/21/2001 12:08:15 PM PST by Norn Iron
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