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Bin Laden run to ground as allied special forces close in
Times of London ^ | 11/18/2001 | JAMES CLARK, DAVID CRACKNELL AND NICHOLAS RUFFORD

Posted on 11/18/2001 8:16:16 AM PST by Straight Vermonter

BRITISH and American special forces have narrowed their search for Osama Bin Laden to a hilly area of just 30 square miles in southeastern Afghanistan, defence sources revealed yesterday.

British SAS and American troops have been dropped by helicopter across the southern approaches to the area, near the Taliban city of Kandahar, to prevent Bin Laden from escaping into Pakistan.

As the manhunt triggered by the September 11 terrorist attacks on America intensifies, British soldiers have been involved in firefights with enemy forces around Kandahar. "The plan has always been to deny Bin Laden space," said Geoff Hoon, the defence secretary. "The space he has to operate in is now very limited indeed." The disclosure reflected a growing confidence in intelligence circles that they would find Bin Laden soon.

A British defence intelligence source said he was believed to be "static" somewhere to the southeast of Kandahar. "For a variety of reasons we can be confident that he has not been able to move far." Last night the Taliban envoy to Pakistan refuted claims that Bin Laden had left the country with his wives and children. "Osama is inside Afghanistan but I don't know whether he is in our territory or the area controlled by the Northern Alliance," said Salam Zaeef.

Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, has warned that Bin Laden might have access to a helicopter that could try to leave Afghanistan for a possible rendezvous with a private jet in Pakistan. However, America has imposed what it calls a "total picture" over the region, meaning that a mixture of satellite, spy plane and special forces cover should enable it to trace any movement on the ground.

The special forces arrived near Kandahar 10 days ago to block off escape routes and engage the enemy. "It has been about aggression and surprise," said one source. "We want to send a clear message that there is no safe way out to the rear of the Kandahar position."

SAS troops have been operating observation posts in the hills and running search-and-destroy patrols. While they had killed a small number of enemy troops, the psychological impact of their presence had been "disproportionately significant", the source said.

Refugees fleeing skirmishes around Kandahar spoke of British and American special forces searching for Bin Laden in the mountains. One refugee said he had seen a British man questioning a Taliban deserter. Other Afghans crossing into Pakistan at Chaman said soldiers of western appearance were near the outskirts of Kandahar, a base for Bin Laden's Al-Qaeda organisation as well as its Taliban hosts. Taliban and Al-Qaeda forces appeared yesterday to be preparing for last stands in the two cities still in their hands — Kandahar in the south and Konduz in the north. At Kandahar, tribal leaders opposed to the regime agreed to allow Taliban forces to leave the city but said thousands of Arabs, Chechens and Pakistani supporters of Bin Laden were staying to fight.

Thousands more were standing their ground in Konduz in the face of a Northern Alliance offensive expected today. They threatened to massacre civilians if the Alliance attacked.

British Special Boat Squadron troopers were carrying out reconnaissance at Bagram airfield, north of Kabul, to establish what repairs will be needed before it can be used as a forward command base.

Military planners want to fly 4,000 troops, including marines and paratroopers, into Bagram and the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif. They would establish a 2-kilometre security cordon around both and would protect aid convoys travelling between the two cities against attack.

The plans were thrown into confusion yesterday, however, when Alliance commanders suggested that no more coalition troops would be welcome in the country. Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, telephoned Dr Abdullah Abdullah, his Alliance counterpart, who said last night: "If you are talking about the presence of thousands of fighting troops from outside Afghanistan, this is a major issue which has to be discussed. The events of the past few days showed that the forces which were capable of doing the job on the ground were the forces of the [Alliance]."

One minister confirmed there were now doubts over the plans for large numbers of British troops. However, Hoon insisted the problem would be resolved. Tony Blair is growing increasingly frustrated with the administration of President George W Bush for not pursuing diplomatic and humanitarian initiatives more vigorously.

A cabinet minister said: "The Americans are interested only in trying to get Bin Laden and push the Taliban further back. Tony's view is that now is the moment to get in there, both in terms of humanitarian aid and the diplomatic front."


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I believe JohnHuang2 posted a similar article translated from French but this one might prove to be a little clearer.
1 posted on 11/18/2001 8:16:17 AM PST by Straight Vermonter
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To: Straight Vermonter
Tony Blair is growing increasingly frustrated with the administration of President George W Bush for not pursuing diplomatic and humanitarian initiatives more vigorously.

This has the ring of untruth. For a hardshell lefty, Tony has a real fondness for playing at soldiers.

2 posted on 11/18/2001 8:25:47 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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To: Straight Vermonter
As soon as I hear a British accent I automatically become skeptical.
3 posted on 11/18/2001 8:40:17 AM PST by gitmogrunt
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To: gitmogrunt
I have a buddy in the Navy down in Gitmo. Hope you are having more fun than he says he is having. LOL
4 posted on 11/18/2001 8:46:17 AM PST by Straight Vermonter
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To: Straight Vermonter

Make no mistake, the United States will hunt down and punish those responsible for these cowardly acts"


5 posted on 11/18/2001 8:49:58 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Straight Vermonter
Message to Nothern Alliance. We are going to get Bin Laden and Al Queda with or without your permission. If you do anything to hinder this objective, remember those bombs that helped you move out the Taliban can just as easily have your names inscribed upon them.
6 posted on 11/18/2001 8:52:20 AM PST by ImpBill
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To: Straight Vermonter; MadIvan; Byron_the_Aussie; shaggy eel; robnoel; nopardons; Clive
The pig-headed bastard had better hope the Americans get to him first.

The SAS are among the world's toughest and most ruthless fighting men.

Bloody awesome!

Bye bye, Osama!

Adopt the position!

[Tuck your head between your thighs -- and kiss your arse goodbye!]

7 posted on 11/18/2001 9:34:09 AM PST by Brian Allen
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To: Straight Vermonter
Just heard something funny on MSNBC. Seems the Taliban keep mentioning that there are numerous Osama look alikes. Some dude on MSNBC said that we know the end is near because when we kill Osama, the Taliban will claim it's not really him but one of the look alikes.

These ragheads have no imagination!
8 posted on 11/18/2001 9:57:31 AM PST by demkicker
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To: Brian Allen
,,, post #7 - yeah!!! Trust your crew Osama, they know what to do!
9 posted on 11/18/2001 10:23:06 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: gitmogrunt
Agreed!
10 posted on 11/18/2001 11:44:04 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Straight Vermonter

11 posted on 11/18/2001 12:05:12 PM PST by Bars4Bill
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To: demkicker
Seems to me that if/when OBL is found, his body should be made unrecognizable and/or buried where it won't be found, preferably at sea. Also the fact that he is dead shouldn't be published.

The reason is: why make a martyr out OBL, the SOB?

Also, this will give us a reason to keep on "looking" for him in other places, e.g., Iraq, Sudan, etc., etc., until we completely clean out the scummy bunch.

12 posted on 11/18/2001 12:19:01 PM PST by BLASTER 14
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Bin Laden - Yes, he's a MORON, but a smart, cagey, sadistic, murdering, pigheaded, PSYCHOTIC, moron.
13 posted on 11/18/2001 12:19:55 PM PST by Gracey
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To: BLASTER 14
OBL....and/or buried where it won't be found...

Good point - My preference would be to bury him and his buddies ALIVE. Bomb the entrances and close off the air passages and let them rot.

14 posted on 11/18/2001 12:23:18 PM PST by Gracey
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Seems the Taliban keep mentioning that there are numerous Osama look alikes.

Can't believe there are too many Arabs or Islamics that are 6'5" tall, and be as thin as OBL.

15 posted on 11/18/2001 12:26:21 PM PST by Gracey
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To: Gracey
Are Arabs generally a short people (I don't mean short in stature or intelligence)?
17 posted on 11/18/2001 12:40:34 PM PST by GuillermoX
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To: ImpBill
Message to Nothern Alliance. We are going to get Bin Laden and Al Queda with or without your permission. If you do anything to hinder this objective, remember those bombs that helped you move out the Taliban can just as easily have your names inscribed upon them.

This statement is right on the money. If they don't like it, that's just tough $hit.

18 posted on 11/18/2001 1:11:33 PM PST by The Real Deal
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To: GuillermoX
Are Arabs generally a short people (I don't mean short in stature or intelligence)?

They are, in general, short in stature, especially foreign born, Arabs, Middle Easterners. American born tend to be taller, as well as American born Asians. Must be the food in foreign countries??

19 posted on 11/18/2001 2:11:06 PM PST by Gracey
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To: demkicker
How many look alikes do you think they have that are 6'-5"?
20 posted on 11/18/2001 2:25:37 PM PST by Go Gordon
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