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Motorcycles: Green or Obscene? (Motorcycles pollute more than SUVs!)
EV World ^ | November 10,2001 | Patrick Justus

Posted on 11/19/2001 7:26:19 AM PST by SW6906

Motorcycles: Green or Obscene?

As hard as it is to believe, motorcycles generate more pollution per mile than the largest SUVs on the road.

Contributing correspondent thinks twice about buying a motorcycle.

Last month I nearly bought a motorcycle. My motive was not the usual mid-life identity crisis. Although I qualify chronologically for that popular personality disorder, my reason for shopping for two wheels instead of four was idealistic rather than psychological. I simply wanted the most environmentally friendly means of transportation for my daily commute. It never occurred to me that a motorcycle might be far more polluting than the worst SUV!

Before I provide the shocking emission statistics, permit me to share the story of my quest for a green vehicle. The story of my search might be the journey of Everyman who longs for a responsible means of transportation. The motorcycle seemed the answer to my needs. If I had not taken the time to look long and hard for the truth, I might be blissfully riding a smog belcher right now. It amazes me to think how many concerned commuters might be aggravating the very problem they believe themselves to be trying so arduously to solve by choosing a motorcycle.

Let's consider the allure of two wheels. First and foremost, there is the issue of miles per gallon. The best small four wheeled gas burners offer somewhere in the neighborhood of thirty, or maybe (rarely) forty miles per gallon. Motorcycles can offer sixty or seventy miles per gallon. The lightest of cars far outweighs the biggest bike and has a much larger engine. As far as price comparisons, $7000.00 buys a lot of motorcycle, while twice that amount buys only the cheapest of autos. Finally, (in a bow to the mid-life thing) motorcycles are a hell of a lot more fun and much sexier than cars.

On the downside, motorcycles lose their appeal when the weather turns nasty. Furthermore, the sexy image thing is great for the weekend but has a tendency to turn the other way in the business world. Let's face it, in most professional situations, clients don't respond with trust to a biker in leather arriving at their door. The biggest disadvantage of motorcycles to cars in most peoples' minds is safety. Bikes are statistically, and many argue inherently, far more dangerous than cars.

All the disadvantages meant little to me though, because I am a bicyclist. I've been commuting on two wheels for twenty years. When it rains, I wear a rain coat. I stopped caring about my image years ago. As far as the safety issue goes, the only reason bikes (motorized or not) are dangerous is because of the fine target they present to cars. I decided a long time ago that my concern for the environment was more important to me than what I like to call "the illusion of safety." For years I have been responding to motorists who ask "Aren't you afraid to ride a bike?" with "What, you think you're safe in a car?"

Last year, the size of the community I live in doubled with the advent of a massive housing development. The road I pedaled to work changed from a pleasantly challenging winding mountain road to a dangerously heavily traveled winding mountain road. There is no bike lane on this road; not even a shoulder. When the gravel trucks and the racing commuters pass me, the space they give a bicycle depends solely on whether a vehicle is approaching from the opposite direction. I figure it's just a matter of time, and I'm unwilling to die for the cause if it can be avoided.

Using the internet as the primary source for my information, I began my search in earnest. From what I learned, I ordered a Toyota Prius last May. While I waited the four months for delivery, I began to look at other options, especially ones that wouldn't put me out $20,000. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has a wonderful site that shows emissions and mileage comparisons for all cars and trucks, but no motorcycles. When I visited the web sites of the bike manufacturers, there was never any mention of emissions, or mileage for that matter. The local motorcycle dealers claimed all sorts or wonderful things for their products, but were unable to provide any hard data.

Finally, after several exchanges with the EPA, I was contacted by someone who knew the answers. His name is Robert French. He works in the EPA. Rob confirmed my worst fears about motorcycle emissions. The statistics he provided are somewhat daunting for a layman, and he hastens to caution that the information he shares is not official EPAspeak. In short, he told me that, "In fact, motorcycles produce more harmful emissions than driving a car, or even a large SUV."

I asked Robert to compare a motorcycle with the Hybrid Toyota Prius. He wrote:

Consider that the cleanest motorcycles in the 2001 model year certified at a level of about 0.32 grams/mile of hydrocarbons on the Federal Test Procedure. On the exact same test procedure the Prius certified at a hydrocarbon level of 0.0024 grams/mile. The cleanest (highway) motorcycle is therefore more than 100 times dirtier than the Prius. Said another way, you could drive the Prius for more than 100 miles before you got to the same hydrocarbon levels the motorcycle would emit in only 1 mile of driving.

There is a Prius parked in my driveway as I write. I've been driving it for two weeks now. Every time I see a person on a scooter or motorcycle now, I wonder if he thinks he is doing the environment a favor. I am tempted to shout the truth out the window to him, "Park that beast and buy a Ford Explorer for Gaia's sake!"

What still amazes me is how hard it was to find out the dirty truth about the motorized two-wheeled world. While I hate to spoil anyone's fun, I think folks should know that motorcycles are not green machines, but are rather, for our environment, obscene machines.


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Why are the Enviro-whackos going after SUVs when those scooters and motorcycles many of them ride belch out even more pollution?!!?
1 posted on 11/19/2001 7:26:20 AM PST by SW6906
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BTTT - gratuitous self-bump #1
2 posted on 11/19/2001 7:30:11 AM PST by SW6906
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And consider how the excessive noise affects quality of life in the cities they want to cram us into. (Harley owners, this means you.)
3 posted on 11/19/2001 7:31:23 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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Motorcycles can offer sixty or seventy miles per gallon. The lightest of cars far outweighs the biggest bike and has a much larger engine. As far as price comparisons, $7000.00 buys a lot of motorcycle,

I stopped here. The guy's an idiot who knows nothing about motorcycles.

4 posted on 11/19/2001 7:33:05 AM PST by ShadowAce
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To: Beelzebubba
LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES.
5 posted on 11/19/2001 7:34:49 AM PST by gfactor
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To: SW6906
Just for the fun of it, I'd like one of those East German diesel motorcycles. I'd ride back and forth in front of Greenpeace HQ with it. ;)

So much for socialism being environmentally friendly. ;)

Regards, Ivan

FreeBritannia.co.uk
6 posted on 11/19/2001 7:35:11 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: SW6906
Last month I nearly bought a motorcycle. My motive was not the usual mid-life identity crisis. Although I qualify chronologically for that popular personality disorder, my reason for shopping for two wheels instead of four was idealistic rather than psychological. I simply wanted the most environmentally friendly means of transportation for my daily commute.

When you start out on a wrong premise, you end up lost, motorcycles are not green, and hopefully they never will be. My suggestion is to leave the motorcycles to the big boys, move a tad closer to work and buy a bicycle, in this you will find the happy medium you seek. ying-yang

7 posted on 11/19/2001 7:37:04 AM PST by TightSqueeze
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To: gfactor
Bring back two-strokes!
9 posted on 11/19/2001 7:38:35 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SW6906
BTTT - gratuitous self-bump #2
10 posted on 11/19/2001 7:39:14 AM PST by SW6906
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To: ShadowAce
I stopped here. The guy's an idiot who knows nothing about motorcycles.

7K only barely gets you into an 883 Sporty. If you want a seat and pegs for the old lady it's going to probably go a bit over 7K. Polution, WGAS. Did the Lord Jesus Christ care that he was poluting the air when he was cooking fish on the beach? I really don't think so.

11 posted on 11/19/2001 7:39:33 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: Beelzebubba
As a Harley owner I'll speak for myself here and simply tell you that you can bite me.

My bike makes a hell of a lot less noise than a tractor trailer or dump truck going down the road and for that matter a lot less than these punks who have car stereos that shake house windows as they go by.

12 posted on 11/19/2001 7:40:54 AM PST by Bikers4Bush
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Motorcycles: Green or Obscene?

As hard as it is to believe, motorcycles generate more pollution per mile than the largest SUVs on the road.

Only if they are Harleys and wanabe Harleys, the noisy nuisances!

The noise pollution is greater than the perceived air quality damage, and we can breathe our way through that.

13 posted on 11/19/2001 7:41:26 AM PST by VOYAGER
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To: SW6906; uglybiker; sit-rep; Teacher317; slugbug
I would take this with a grain of salt. Motorcycle manufacturers have to submit their products to federal emissions testing just like autos. Since my Honda Shadow gets over 50pmg, even if it is allowed a little more hydrocarbons than an SUV(and I see no actual figures that say that it does), it still gets over twice the miles per gallon which means that the production of the gasoline it uses produces less pollution than the gas that SUV uses and it probably produces less net pollution than the SUV.

Finally, this guys rides a bicycle to work! How can you believe anything hs says? ;-)

14 posted on 11/19/2001 7:41:27 AM PST by TopDog2
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To: SW6906
I feel much better now about my next vehicle being a quite large SUV. Black on the outside "green" enviromentaly...LOL
15 posted on 11/19/2001 7:42:51 AM PST by Syncro
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To: TopDog2
I'm not sure whther to believe this or not either, but he does quote a source and give his name. Don't get me wrong: I have nothing against motorcylces, I just knew us Freepers would get a chuckle or two out of this article!
16 posted on 11/19/2001 7:46:42 AM PST by SW6906
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"In fact, motorcycles produce more harmful emissions than driving a car, or even a large SUV."

Yeah, and the pope ain't Catholic!

17 posted on 11/19/2001 7:48:25 AM PST by VOYAGER
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To: TopDog2
Motorcycles ride under different regulations than cars. I suspect the anti-pollution equipment required for cars, even scaled down to the size of a motorcycle engine, would make motorcycles quite different vehicles than they are now.

D

18 posted on 11/19/2001 7:52:27 AM PST by daviddennis
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To: gfactor
LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES

The selfish punks disturbing my peace could say the same about their subwoofers. I don't see any benefit in a two-block advance warning of their arrival, either.

19 posted on 11/19/2001 7:54:32 AM PST by newgeezer
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To: Beelzebubba
I don't even have any mufflers on mine. Just straight pipes so you can hear me coming and going.
20 posted on 11/19/2001 7:55:15 AM PST by monkeyshine
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