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Goose hunters rile Niwot neighbor
Boulder Camera ^ | 23 Nov 01 | Chris Barge

Posted on 11/23/2001 5:30:37 AM PST by real saxophonist

Goose hunters rile Niwot neighbor

By Chris Barge

Camera Staff Writer

NIWOT — Donna Tucker jumped out of bed at 7 a.m. Saturday, jarred by the unwelcome sound of fall.

"Bang!"

Silence.

"Bang! Bang!"

For the second year running, it was apparently goose hunting season in the corn field next to her house.

Tucker got dressed, far earlier than she had planned to that day. She decided she would defend her right to a quiet neighborhood.

Next door, in the middle of his 90-acre field, Dave Hindman quietly took aim at a flock of geese with his son, his friend and his friend's son.

"Bang!"

Two geese. Not a bad morning.

Tucker met the four hunters in an irrigation ditch on their property.

They exchanged words.

Hindman told Tucker that he was within the private property rights granted to him by the state constitution.

Tucker left Hindman's property, determined to keep hunting out of her neighborhood this year.

According to both Tucker and Hindman, there was something wrong with this picture.

There, halfway between Boulder and Longmont, Tucker says, her quiet country life was being ripped apart by early morning gunfire. She said the gunshots also scared about 1,000 geese off nearby Dodd Lake.

But Hindman and his family, which homesteaded in the peaceful valley more than 100 years ago, say newcomers should learn to deal with the sounds of country life when they move there.

Tucker lives in a rural subdivision called Centennial Farms. Hindman does not live on his farm, but last year he began hunting there with friends for the first time in 15 years.

Both the subdivision and Hindman's property are next door to majestic Dodd Lake, which the Hindman-Dodd family sold to Boulder County for open space along with 200 other acres two years ago.

Sunday morning at 7 a.m., just hours after stargazers across Colorado saw an impressive Leonid meteor shower, the shots rang out again.

Tucker called the Sheriff's Office. Two hours later, a deputy paid her a visit. He told her Hindman's actions were within the law.

"It's not like he's in Blanca County," Tucker said this week. "What he is doing is legal. But it's busy out here. The issue is, whose rights are at the top of the pyramid?"

Tucker consulted Boulder County Commissioner Ron Stewart for advice.

Stewart, who represents Niwot, said there is nothing the county can legally do for Tucker.

"I think that as long as a person who is hunting does not pass the boundaries of their property, they are within the law," Stewart said.

Pat Hindman, Dave's father, said his family was upset that Tucker was bringing so much attention to an otherwise-private family.

"There's nothing we're doing that is illegal," Pat Hindman said. "We're trying to be neighbors, but people keep moving out to the country and wanting it to change."

Contact Chris Barge at (303) 473-1389 or bargec@thedailycamera.com.


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1 posted on 11/23/2001 5:30:37 AM PST by real saxophonist
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To: real saxophonist
Boulder, CO: Eight square miles surrounded by reality!

Wonder if these people need help wiping their rear after going 'potty?

2 posted on 11/23/2001 5:41:28 AM PST by cibco
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To: real saxophonist
Gee! Isn't the Second Amendment all about the right to hunt?
3 posted on 11/23/2001 5:42:39 AM PST by Grut
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To: Grut
It is in my book.
4 posted on 11/23/2001 5:46:38 AM PST by rebelyell
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To: real saxophonist
I used to live in the country & I have had shotgun pellets hit my house many times. I have even been outside with my children & had pellets hit all around us. Think I didn't call the Sheriff?
5 posted on 11/23/2001 5:48:36 AM PST by Ditter
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To: real saxophonist
""There's nothing we're doing that is illegal," Pat Hindman said. "We're trying to be neighbors, but people keep moving out to the country and wanting it to change."" (Boulder Camera)

That's the whole problem. Similar crap goes on all the time over city people moving to farm country - and not liking the "burden" of having to drive five miles behind a combine, being awakened by the neighbor's roosters, or disliking normal farm odors.

These city people who choose to move to farm country should go back to Denver if they don't like what they chose. Nobody forced it on them.

6 posted on 11/23/2001 5:49:38 AM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: real saxophonist
Exactly. Of course there is also a population explosion of geese right now too. So watch in a couple of months Ms. Tucker will probably be calling the county to trap and remove the geese that are destroying her property.
7 posted on 11/23/2001 5:57:05 AM PST by Hugin
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To: Ditter
Getting hit by pellets/BBs and simply hearing the gun go "boom" are two very different things. I don't blame you for complaining....although I would have started by talking to the hunters themselves. The guys I know are generally very careful and would be darned embarrassed.

This story is all about a bedwetting complainer. She should have checked out the neighborhood first before moving in.

8 posted on 11/23/2001 5:59:32 AM PST by irish guard
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To: real saxophonist
Tucker can kiss my fuzzy white Welsh a$$. I shoot geese and deer in my front yard here in Montana and my neighbors do too.
9 posted on 11/23/2001 6:00:41 AM PST by CholeraJoe
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To: *bang_list
Plink
10 posted on 11/23/2001 6:01:49 AM PST by Khepera
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To: real saxophonist
Poor woman...she got woked up....ha, ha.

Good post, shows where we are headed if the liberals have their way.

11 posted on 11/23/2001 6:03:15 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: glc1173@aol.com
That's the whole problem. Similar crap goes on all the time over city people moving to farm country - and not liking the "burden" of having to drive five miles behind a combine, being awakened by the neighbor's roosters, or disliking normal farm odors.

I love the people who build their Grand Estate next to a dairy farm, then complain about eau de manure. Or that someone may actually be hunting the deer that are munching their shrubs (which deer think of as browse) and the rest of their carefully manicured landscaping right to the ground--even digging up the tulip bulbs, which deer think of as gourmet treats. And where would the best hunting for geese be? Why, that'd be in a cornfield.

Same thing happens when people build houses next to an airport, then complain about the noise.

On our recent travels, we saw a development of some fairly pricy homes being built in an area bordered by railroad tracks on the east and the interstate on the west. You KNOW they're going to complain, as if they're surprised that trains use the tracks in the middle of the night and there's traffic on the I road.

12 posted on 11/23/2001 6:03:28 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Khepera
gun owner bump
13 posted on 11/23/2001 6:03:57 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: Khepera
"The issue is, whose rights are at the top of the pyramid?"

Finally, someone put in print what we've known all along.
Assumed rights (privacy, that's why I moved to the Country!!!)
are expected to take priority over stated rights (2d Amendment, game laws, homestead laws).

Well, who died and left Tucker in charge?

14 posted on 11/23/2001 6:08:49 AM PST by HiJinx
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To: irish guard
Getting hit by pellets/BBs and simply hearing the gun go "boom" are two very different things.

No, they aren't. Incomming rifle and pistol rounds are dangerous, but I have been "rained" on by shotgun pellets many times. It's a common occurance in the country. I have never heard of anyone or anything being hurt or injured.

This is one of those things that is a part of country life. People who don't like it should try another country.

So9

15 posted on 11/23/2001 6:11:02 AM PST by Servant of the Nine
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To: Catspaw
I used to own a house in the city, near a major private college, just a few doors down from a frat house. Now I own a house out in the country, just one strand of eletrified fence away from a cow pasture.

Comparing the experiences, I'll take the cows over the frat boys any day. They're quieter and they smell better. And they almost never leave beer cans and used condoms on my lawn.

16 posted on 11/23/2001 6:11:13 AM PST by brbethke
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To: CholeraJoe
that's your choice and your property... a big difference. i've always wondered about this woody for hunting alot of guys have. is it the thrill of being able to kill or are they living in the land of make believe where and think it's so macho. i'm disturbed when i see SUVs with dead deer slung over the roof. what is the excuse for subjecting other drivers and children to that??????????????????
17 posted on 11/23/2001 6:12:18 AM PST by contessa machiaveli
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To: irish guard
Yes I realize that, but at some point the country turns to city & people need to realize that. We live in the city now & when we hunt it is on a 13,000 acre pasture that we lease. Our own property (2000 acres) has deer on it but there are too many houses around us for us to hunt on it.
18 posted on 11/23/2001 6:16:52 AM PST by Ditter
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To: contessa machiaveli
"what is the excuse for subjecting other drivers and children to that??????????????????"

Well, one can only hope that a prissy little driver who would be upset by something like would lose control of her vehicle, crash, and die- thereby draining a little out of the shallow end of the gene pool.

19 posted on 11/23/2001 6:19:06 AM PST by fourdeuce82d
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To: Ditter
When I lived in the city I heard gunfire all the time, too, only then it was crack dealers with .25's and .380's sorting out retail territorial disputes at 2 AM. I'll take the boom of shotguns on fall mornings any time. At least the goose hunters aren't *trying* to kill someone.
20 posted on 11/23/2001 6:20:16 AM PST by brbethke
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