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Is There a Constitution?
Antiwar.com ^ | November 24, 2001 | Joseph R. Stromberg

Posted on 11/24/2001 11:18:30 AM PST by H.R. Gross

The Old Cause
by Joseph R. Stromberg
Antiwar.com

November 24, 2001

Is There a Constitution?

I now proceed to answer my own question: If the events of the last few weeks are any guide, then of course there is no Constitution. This should hardly come as a surprise to those high-minded liberals who have been hawking the virtues of a flexible, plastic, evolving Constitution for many decades. Yet, some of them, out of sheer sentimentality as regards the First Amendment, would now draw back from the militarist abyss lately reopened by the current administration in the name of Homeland Security.

Such liberal dissenters have not attended the many lectures offered by Neo-Conservative spokesmen like Jay Winik, the gist of which is that we can give up many of our civil liberties for the duration of the Emergency and then get them back again, only slightly wrinkled and stained. Since other low-minded Neo-Con spokesmen have announced that the Emergency may go on for decades, the exact date at which this fairy-tale ending – the return of liberty – will occur is left hanging in the Hegelian breeze. Perhaps the Neos should coordinate their propaganda a bit more tightly.

A REAL CONSTITUTIONAL STANDARD

The idea that the Constitution exists in the realm of "becoming" had great appeal for late 19th Century American intellectuals. Starting from Hegelian, Pragmatist, Instrumentalist, or post-millennialist Protestant premises, such folk could "find" a charter for their preferred programs in an ever-changing Constitution, whether the program was corporatism, socialism, or endless social therapy.

A stricter standard was of course possible. Such a reading was, in fact, quite common in the era in which the Constitution was written and ratified. As M. E. Bradford, Clyde Wilson, and other historians have stressed, the understandings of the ratifiers of the document are the key to the allegedly impossible determination of "original intentions." This is in stark contrast to Gary Wills, who believes that the secret opinions of Little Jamie Madison should guide us in these matters.

Wills claims, in effect, that Madison swindled the ratifiers, and that this Original Swindle justifies all later swindles by Presidents, Congresses, and Courts. One might beg to differ. Indeed, the original understanding – decisively shaped by the propaganda of Madison, Hamilton, and Jay in the Federalist Papers – was fairly straightforward. The Constitution was, on the reading "sold" by the Constitution's backers, a document which set up a few rules for the working of a general government for the common interests of the states. The Constitution would exist "between" the ratifying states; it was not set "over" them by a higher power.

Powers not enumerated were not granted, that is, they did not exist. The government created was therefore limited in scope and power; all other powers remained with the states or the peoples thereof. Amendments meant to nail this point down beyond all doubt were added.

It is true of course that, having gotten their way, the Federalists immediately tried to wiggle out of their commitments via the "sweeping clause," which states that Congress may make laws "necessary and proper" to carry out its powers. Hamilton and others found therein a whole new set of implied powers. Thus the swindlers, if such they were, revealed their real intentions rather early.

Even so, the ratifiers' understanding became doctrine for the Jeffersonian Republican movement – and this was a federation-wide movement and not a peculiarly Southern one. It may be that Patrick Henry, an Anti-Federalist of note, was a better prophet in the Virginia ratification debates, than his opponents. Nonetheless, the strict-constructionist position – that is, what the conventions thought they had agreed to – had its merits.

JOHN TAYLOR DECONSTRUCTS JOHN MARSHALL

A few weeks ago, not long after Everything Changed, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor stated, in effect, that US authorities and Courts might, during the emergency, have to decide cases more by the standards of the international laws of war than by the Constitution. This is a peculiar thing for a Supreme Court Justice to say, especially when the Courts are still in operation, no invading armies occupy any part of our demesne, and martial law has not been declared, as far as one can tell. It does suggest that we shan't be relying on her to apply the Constitution in future, if she ever has done.

What was ratified at the end of the 18th Century was a fairly simple text, long on procedure and short on moral theory – something suited to being read narrowly, like a contract, rather than as "a charter of learning," as Robert Hutchins once grandly put it. There was little need for creative writing by judges and lawyers, who might imagine they were reinventing the common law or breaking new ground in social theory.

Alas, the Supreme Court took up creative writing rather early. John Taylor of Caroline (that is, of Caroline County, Virginia), the most hard-core theorist of Jeffersonian republicanism, emerged as a very perceptive critic of John Marshall's jurisprudence. In Construction Construed and Constitutions Vindicated (1820),1 Taylor got to the heart of the matter.

Taylor utterly rejected the European, international lawyers' notion of "sovereignty," on which so much of Marshall's deductive structure rested. Sovereignty was an attribute of God, "sacrilegiously stolen" and "impiously assumed by kings" (p. 26). The American Revolution had specifically "endeavored to eradicate [this idea] by establishing governments invested with specified and limited powers" (p. 28).

Thus Taylor rejected the notion that there is some thing called "sovereignty" which is an inherent attribute of states, a thing whose "powers must be boundless" (p. 31), as a source of endless mischief. American constitutions reflected a belief in "self-government" rather than sovereignty (p. 37). At most, we might – lacking a fitting substitute – use the latter word in reference to the independence of the states from one another, except in their federal relations, and with reference to the independence of those states and their federation from foreign control. There were no grand deductions to be made from such a usage.

The sheer radicalism of Taylor's outlook is lost on most commentators, who wish to force him into some residual category like "Southern agrarian reactionary." They thus fail to spot resemblance between Taylor's thought and that of such thoroughgoing classical liberals as Jean-Baptiste Say, Frederic Bastiat, or even Gustave de Molinari. For such thinkers, coherent societies preexisted states. Their institutions, including property, were not gifts of the state, but instead, states, where they existed, were meant to protect those institutions. If there existed a final power anywhere, it rested with actual peoples, and it was hardly "boundless" since it had to do only with provision of security.

Taylor is quite amusing as he carves up Marshall's high-toned deductions from the implications of sovereignty with devastating linguistic analysis. On issues which presently engage us, we can get the flavor of Taylor's views from these excerpts:

"The rights of declaring war, and of creating corporations or granting exclusive privileges, as considered by the writers upon the laws of nations, were rights of sovereignty; but the case of war is specially provided for by the federal constitution, because the federal government, as having no sovereignty, could not otherwise have declared it.... As the powers of making war and peace were necessary, it became necessary also to provide for them, not as emanations [!] from the principle of a sovereignty in governments, but as delegated powers conferred by the social sovereignty, or natural right of self-government" (p. 280; i.e., the right belonging to the several peoples of the states).

Further: "No powers in relation to war are derived from the old doctrine of a sovereignty in governments under our system; and none can be justly inferred from the conclusions of the writers upon the laws of nations, deduced from that old doctrine" (p. 280). And even more to the point: "As the laws of nations cannot deprive congress of any power with which it is invested by the Constitution, so they cannot invest congress or any other department, with any power not bestowed by the constitution" (p. 281, my italics).

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1 posted on 11/24/2001 11:18:30 AM PST by H.R. Gross
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To: H.R. Gross
John Taylor's New Views of the Constitution
2 posted on 11/24/2001 11:32:18 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: H.R. Gross
To merely profess a love of Liberty and a defense of Freedom is not good enough. When our government employs methods and operations that are directly in opposition to Freedom and Liberty all validation as a legitimate government is in doubt.
3 posted on 11/24/2001 11:33:55 AM PST by Lysander
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To: H.R. Gross
Screw the Constitution, LET'S ROLL!
4 posted on 11/24/2001 11:46:37 AM PST by vmatt
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To: Lysander
Is Bush A Dictator?
5 posted on 11/24/2001 11:54:09 AM PST by america-rules
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To: vmatt
"Screw the Constitution,"

Well you cant get any more unAmerican than that. Check out Russia and China you might be happy there.

6 posted on 11/24/2001 11:55:08 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: vmatt
Don't you mean: "LET'S TROLL!"?
7 posted on 11/24/2001 11:56:25 AM PST by Pay now bill Clinton
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To: Native American Female Vet
Well you cant get any more unAmerican than that. Check out Russia and China you might be happy there.

How come you are always inviting people to leave if they don't agree with your views? Surely you believe in Freedom of Speech.

8 posted on 11/24/2001 12:05:10 PM PST by JD86
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To: Native American Female Vet
"Screw the Constitution," Well you cant get any more unAmerican than that. Check out Russia and China you might be happy there.

I believe he was being facetious.

9 posted on 11/24/2001 12:14:20 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: JD86
"How come you are always inviting people to leave if they don't agree with your views?"

I never told you to leave this forum or this country. I didnt tell him/her to either. I pointed out he/she may be happy someplace

"Surely you believe in Freedom of Speech."

Sure I do. Ya know what else... I dont have to agree with what they say.

10 posted on 11/24/2001 12:18:18 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Native American Female Vet
I dont have to agree with what they say.

We can always count on you for that....:)

11 posted on 11/24/2001 12:21:03 PM PST by JD86
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To: H.R. Gross
Good article. It really brings something new to the discussion. It's not clear, though, that Taylor's arguments are any decisive repudiation of Marshall. I would have to do a lot more reading before I could comment authoritatively on anything, but at first glance it does look as though Marshall didn't need to rely on such an appeal to the idea of "sovereignty". He could justify new measures as a means to achieve the enumerated powers. Here's a more sympathetic libertarian view of Marshall.

Was the Constitution a swindle? It's an interesting question. One could take a jaundiced view of our Constitution, but probably every form of government disappoints in some way. Ours may look to have been a trick or deception because it was put forward to the people for approval and is being put to uses that the original ratifiers wouldn't have forseen or approved. But on the whole, it's been less of a disappointment or swindle than many other governments have been. Consent is always a tricky question. What people would not have approved of in 1788, they did in 1818. But the Constitution does provide avenues for redress, if we feel it's been misused or misapplied.

12 posted on 11/24/2001 12:21:03 PM PST by x
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To: Dan Day
"I believe he was being facetious."

Thanks Dan. I hope you are right. It is getting hard to tell who is and is not being facetious anymore.

13 posted on 11/24/2001 12:25:02 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: vmatt
Did you REALLY say "Screw the Constitution?"

Yep, it's as bad as I thought out there.

The dumbing down of America has finally been achieved.

This guy would likely be putty in the hands of the likes of Castro, Hitler or Stalin.

14 posted on 11/24/2001 12:27:30 PM PST by BenR2
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To: H.R. Gross
The sky is falling! The sky is falling! There is not a single citizen on this forum that can relate a single instance where they have had their civil rights abused because the U.S. is taking drastic measures to defend itself in this war.

This is just a chance for many to complain and be critical about things that will never affect them.

17 posted on 11/24/2001 12:35:59 PM PST by mrfixit514
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To: Dan Day
I believe he was being facetious.

Sorry, Dan Day is right, just had to get that out. Closer to the reality of what many are thinking around here these days. Wouldn't surprise me a bit for someone to come along and say it seriously.

18 posted on 11/24/2001 12:36:21 PM PST by vmatt
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To: JD86
How come you are always inviting people to leave if they don't agree with your views? Surely you believe in Freedom of Speech.

I don't believe she made any comment that would deny anyone free speech. But anyone who would suggest that we "screw the Constitution," obviously has no good reason to remain here. The Constitution is the basis for all interaction between the States, for all actions that we take as a people in common on behalf of our Federal Union. Without the Constitution, there is no United States. It is too late to return to the Articles, they have been defunct since 1789.

Even more to the point, in the present exigency, every American on the ground in Afganistan--and every American flying over Afganistan--is there because they took an oath to preserve the Constitution. The remark--if it was not facetious--really reflects a total lack of understanding.

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19 posted on 11/24/2001 12:54:41 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
The remark--if it was not facetious--really reflects a total lack of understanding.

That anyone would not read it as facetious is what surprises me.

20 posted on 11/24/2001 12:59:06 PM PST by JD86
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