Posted on 11/24/2001 6:32:37 PM PST by kattracks
The official, Hazarat Ali, the law and order minister for the Eastern Shura, which claims dominion over three major provinces in eastern Afghanistan, said trusted informants had told him that Mr. bin Laden was spotted near Tora Bora, a village where two valleys meet in deep mountains in Nangarhar Province. "We have some people who told us that three or four days ago, Osama bin Laden was in Tora Bora," Mr. Ali said. "I trust them like my mother or father." "He is moving at night on horseback," he said, citing his informants. "At night he sleeps in caves." Overlooking the village of Tora Bora is a large network of mountain caves and forts used by the Afghan rebels who fought the Soviet Union in the 1980's. Eastern Shura commanders say operatives of Al Qaeda, Mr. bin Laden's organization, paid the villagers of Tora Bora $50 a family to vacate the village weeks ago. Aides to Mr. Ali say as many as 2,000 foreign fighters "Afghan Arabs," as they are called here are at Tora Bora too, armed with rifles, machine guns and surface-to-surface missiles. He described the fighters as "experienced and suicidal." Mr. Ali's intelligence chief, Sohrab Qadri, said the Tora Bora encampment lay along a ridge of the White Mountains, and could not easily be reached except on horseback. It includes a network of caves, bunkers and ammunition depots, he said, and is sheltered by deep forests. The Afghan rebels who fought the Soviets wintered there over several years, he said, and he assumed that the caves included heating and ventilation systems. The reported sighting of Mr. bin Laden may lead to an increased American presence in and around Jalalabad, which is precisely what the Eastern Shura commanders would like to see. They are eager to get their hands on American weapons and matériel to help them shore up their week-old government. Soviet Army reports described the most sophisticated caves used by the Afghan rebels as "the last word in NATO engineering." Some of the caves were upgraded in the mid-to- late 1980's, when the rebels were receiving hundreds of millions of dollars a year in covert aid from the United States and Saudi Arabia. The Soviets threw almost everything in their arsenal at the caves, short of tactical nuclear weapons, but with little success. They did not have the precision-guidance systems possessed by the Pentagon. But "bombing alone will not be effective" against the caves at Tora Bora, Mr. Qadri said. He said the site would have to be taken by siege. A network of mule trails connects Tora Bora and the Afghan border with Pakistan. It was a three-day journey for the men and the mule trains that moved weapons and supplies from Pakistan into Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation. The trail ends in the Tirah Valley of Pakistan. Mr. Ali said it was possible that Mr. bin Laden would "slip into Pakistan" if Tora Bora came under heavy attack. Other Eastern Shura commanders said Mr. bin Laden was taking shelter in early October at a farm in Nangarhar Province owned by Yunis Khalis, a commander of Afghan rebels in the 1980's who was closely allied with the Taliban. They said that Mr. bin Laden left the farm days before the American bombing started in October and that "Afghan Arabs" in his retinue had gone to Tora Bora to secure the site.ALALABAD, Afghanistan, Nov. 24 Osama bin Laden was seen this week at a large and well-fortified encampment 35 miles southwest of this city, a minister of the self-proclaimed government here said tonight.
yeah, right! and i've got some cheap land to sell ya.
However, I'm sure that is one of his wives probably running off with an Osama double.
Soon they will be experienced at suicide.
Mr. bin Laden left the farm days before
And let's hope he buys the farm in the days to come.
I'll answer my own question: take out every one of bin Laden's hiding places.
So this is the fate Allah has assigned to big brave Osama as a reward for commanding a Holy War against the "Great Satan".
Pathetic.
Was he in Bora Bora last summmer?
They really are interesting to look at though, aren't they?
This doesn't even conform to the Times' own stylebook. Second reference to a man is supposed to be the surname only, unless he has a title. Notice that the President of the United States isn't called "Mr. Bush." He's just "Bush." So is every other male. What's up with this? Can't show enough respect to America's greatest enemy since Hitler, eh, Times?
Looks like the Grey Lady is a ho.
Osama bin DEAD-pool Update:
All right, here's the up-to-date list for the Osama bin DEAD-pool. Still plenty of open dates, so flag me on this thread if you want in. As you've noticed, since he doesn't look like he'll make it to Pakistan, I went ahead and changed the name of the pool. Sue me.
November 16: First day of Ramadan!
November 17: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub - Nope.
November 18:OPEN
November 19:OPEN
November 20:OPEN
November 21:OPEN
November 22: Azzurri -- Thanksgiving - Nope.
November 23: Sabertooth - Nope.
November 24: Jefferson Adams - Not looking good.
November 25: Victoria Delsoul - On the bubble.
November 26: airborne
November 27: harpseal
November 28: OPEN
November 29: Tunehead54
November 30: Travis McGeeDecember 1: alancarp
December 2: onyx
December 3: AfghanAirShow
December 4: Straight Vermonter
December 5: Pokey78
December 6: proudofthesouth
December 7: null and void -- Pearl Harbor Day
December 8: MaeWest
December 9: OPEN
December 10: glock rocks
December 11: KayEyeDoubleDee
December 12: Washi
December 13: FreedomFarmer
December 14: irish guard
December 15: hattendNot sure when Ramadan ends, but around here somewhere.
December 16: nunya bidness
December 17: abner
December 18: anniegetyourgun
December 19: OPEN
December 20: mdittmar
December 21: OPEN
December 22: OPEN
December 23: OPEN
December 24: RasterMaster -- Christmas Eve
December 25: Go Gordon -- Christmas Day
December 26: Loyalist
December 27: OPEN
December 28: Snow Bunny
December 29: OPEN
December 30: OPEN
December 31: Miss Marple -- New Year's EveI really don't think it's going to go this long, but I've had requests for January
January 1: Freeper 007 -- New Year's Day
January 2: OPEN
January 3: OPEN
January 4: OPEN
January 5: OPEN
January 6: OPEN
January 7: OPEN
January 8: PoisedWoman -- Elvis' Birthday
January 9: OPEN
January 10: OPEN
If you're not sure what the whole "Paki-pool" idea was about, check out this link from a thread posted by Travis McGee on October 25th...
Will Osama Appear In Pakistan?
The operating theory is was that Osama bin Laden had a plan all along to show up in Pakistan, have himself declared the "Imam al-Mahdi" (a long-prophesied Islamic savior-figure), and start a civil war in an attempt to gain control of Pakistan's nukes.
Sound crazy?
So is he. Crazy evil.
It's still an interesting read.
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