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If your boss is a dummy, you are not the only one
Austin-American Statesman ^ | November 25, 2001 | Eve Tahminciolgu, The New York Times

Posted on 11/25/2001 12:46:53 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

When Becky Boyd was a sales representative for Hewlett-Packard Co., she stopped bringing her boss along on customer calls because, she said, "he was so stupid he'd actually jeopardize sales."

For starters, he was incapable of picking up on body language. "When a client was busy and wanted to discuss H-P's products, this guy would walk around the room, cracking jokes," she said. When he did get down to business, he would talk about obsolete systems and suggest products that were incompatible with the client's.

"I don't think he was smart enough to know he was doing his job the wrong way," said Boyd, who now owns an Atlanta public relations firm.

Most workplaces have their share of incompetents, of course, but Boyd's former boss belonged to a particularly maddening species: ladder-climbers blithely unaware of their own ineptitude. Every office has one, and maybe several. Often, they occupy positions of power.

A manager at a recruiting firm in Pompano Beach, Fla., recalled his encounter with one of them at an Internet startup where he once worked. One of the founders had hired his brother, who flunked out of medical school, to drive a custom-built, 30-foot armored vehicle emblazoned with the company's logo at trade shows and the like.

The brother kept coming up with outlandish promotional ideas, such as paying National Hockey League players to promote the company because hockey was his favorite sport. "We ignored his moronic demands, but he'd just get abrasive," the manager said. "He knew no one was going to fire him."

What he probably did not know was that he deserved to be fired. "It's very difficult for incompetent people to know they are incompetent," said David Dunning, a professor of psychology at Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y. "If they could figure it out, they probably wouldn't be."

Dunning, whose research has focused on illusions in human judgment, said that the most incompetent people actually tended to think more highly of themselves than their competent colleagues.

It is a workplace Catch-22: If you think you are incompetent, you probably are not, but if you think you can do no wrong, you almost certainly can and will. "When people are incompetent in the strategies they adopt to achieve success and satisfaction, they suffer a dual burden," Dunning said. "Not only do they reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the ability to realize it."

Roughly one of six employees or managers fails to realize it when they are told about it point-blank, according to Frank M. Shipper, professor of management at the Franklin P. Perdue School of Business at Salisbury State University in Maryland.

Their bungling can be costly. Richard Cohen, an executive with a Massachusetts technology company, tells the story of the chief information officer at a giant consumer goods company where he once worked who ignored his subordinates' advice and bought 600 personal computers that the manufacturer stated would probably be discontinued. His reason: They were cheap.

Then he parked them in inventory for a year. "That is like 10 dog years in the technology world," Cohen said.

For some reason, workplace dummies often get rewarded for their missteps. The phenomenon is known as "failing upward," and Cathy Rusinko, an assistant professor of management at Philadelphia University, witnessed it at another organization where she once worked.

A colleague was unable to master the basics of the office's phone system, and had the annoying habit of sending the same e-mail messages over and over again by mistake, prompting four of the 20 people in the department to file formal complaints about him.

He was promoted shortly thereafter.

"The good news was he didn't have as many" people reporting to him directly, Rusinko said.

Of course, some incompetent people were once competent but were promoted to jobs they could not handle. That tendency was satirized in a best-selling book published in 1969 whose title, "The Peter Principle," has become part of the business lexicon. Given enough time, the author Laurence J. Peter wrote, "each employee rises to, and remains at, his level of incompetence."

One skill many incompetent people do have is making friends in high places. Recalling her boss at Hewlett-Packard, Boyd said: "He was good friends with upper-level managers. I went to his boss one time, and he told me there were reasons he was there, so just leave it alone."

In other cases, senior executives are unaware of a supervisor's ineptitude because his underlings do his work for him, according to Robert Butterworth, a workplace-stress psychologist. The underlings then go home and "kick their dog," he said.

"They can't sleep," he said. "The sublimation creates symptoms like irritability. And that's why people end up coming to me."

Most office workers dislike complaining about their dimmer-witted colleagues, but they would be smart to keep a diary of their own accomplishments to show their bosses in annual reviews, workplace specialists say.

Such records will reduce their odds of being laid off for somebody else's stupidity, they say. "Don't just groan about an incompetent to your supervisors or you'll come off as a whiner," said Laurie Rozakis, co-author of "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Office Politics" (Alpha Books, 1998).

Even when they know who the dunderheads are, many employers lack the heart to cut them loose. "Some companies, especially small ones, are held hostage by the incompetent, especially if they have been around for a long time and have become entrenched," said Andrew J. Birol, the president of Pacer Associates, a consulting firm in Solon, Ohio.

Bonnie Russell, president of 1st-pick.com, a legal-resource Web site in Del Mar, Calif., remembers a former boss who never fired anybody, not even a receptionist who answered telephone calls with the word "um" followed by a long pause and who was forever losing documents.

One day, the receptionist outdid herself, Russell recalled. She went into a manager's office and told him: "Um. Don. Your mother is on the phone. Something about your father dying."


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1 posted on 11/25/2001 12:46:53 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments
2 posted on 11/25/2001 1:02:02 PM PST by redbaiter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The private sectdor may be bad, but take a look at all levels of government. The trouble is it is almost a requirment to be incompentemt to be promoted. I know, I have consulted in all levels of government for ten years.

It's not the fault of the people so much as it's the system. Once you reach mid managment and up you are generally below what the private sector pays for equal level of responsibilityl, sometimes by a factor of 5 or more. So who stays, the insecure and the incompetent, and they can't be fired(unless the rape a commisioners daughter, and then it will cost $150,000).

One last thing, the private sector is 15 to 25% more efficient. The private sector lives on providing service and products(or the're out of biz), the government thrives on creating new problems and not solving the old ones(job security).

I bet the terrorist are chuckling over the thought of government screeners at the airports!

3 posted on 11/25/2001 1:03:07 PM PST by stubernx98
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It's as true today as it was 30 years ago (or, for that matter, 300 or 3000 years ago):

"It's not what you know... It's who you blow"

4 posted on 11/25/2001 1:06:19 PM PST by DWSUWF
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A colleague was unable to master the basics of the office's phone system, and had the annoying habit of sending the same e-mail messages over and over again by mistake, prompting four of the 20 people in the department to file formal complaints about him. He was promoted shortly thereafter.

Stuff like this is why the Dilbert cartoons are so popular and funny. It's because they are rooted in reality.

5 posted on 11/25/2001 1:07:42 PM PST by Mulder
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To: redbaiter
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Office Politics

The readers really panned this book. Only a reader in China liked it.

6 posted on 11/25/2001 1:07:57 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: stubernx98
The private sectdor may be bad, but take a look at all levels of government. The trouble is it is almost a requirment to be incompentemt to be promoted. I know, I have consulted in all levels of government for ten years.

Many cry "victim" status for one thing or another and have lawyers waiting in the wings so management folds
or stalls and sends problem employees to programs like "anger management," "sensitivity training" or buys them off.
Co-workers are usually the ones left to deal with them and pick up the slack.

7 posted on 11/25/2001 1:16:16 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
My late boss single-handedly drove the center where I was last employed into the toilet. Drove off those capable of bringing in business, promoted incompetents, so that no one could replace him, alienated everyone -- including upper management.

The home office laid off all but four of us on Oct 1. Those four, including the incompetent boss are shutting everything down. Three of the four, get laid off on Nov 30.

The fourth? He is the incompetant boss. He is being transfered to San Antonio, to work his magic there.

Go figure.

8 posted on 11/25/2001 1:16:50 PM PST by No Truce With Kings
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Very good salemen/women are often promoted to managerial spots. Why are they good,lets see here,getting their clients hard to find tickets to some sporting event,getting his client layed,getting his client drugs and the list is endless.Doesn't matter what you know as the saying goes,it's who ya blow.
9 posted on 11/25/2001 1:16:51 PM PST by eastforker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sounds like Dilbert's life
10 posted on 11/25/2001 1:20:20 PM PST by Captain Shady
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To: No Truce With Kings
The fourth? He is the incompetant boss. He is being transfered to San Antonio, to work his magic there.

That sounds like Lee Brown. He's in a run-off in the Houston mayoral race, December 1.

The only place his incompetence was rewarded was in the Clinton White House and that stint in Houston when crime shot through the roof.

LEE BROWN

Political offices sought or held: Mayor of Houston, since 1998.

Education: BS, Fresno State University, 1961; MS, San Jose State University, 1964; MS, University of California-Berkeley, 1968; PhD, UC-Berkeley, 1970.

Background: Native of Wewoka, Okla.; Texas resident nine years; professor of public affairs, Rice University, 1996-97; professor of criminal justice, Texas Southern University, 1992-93; director, White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, 1993-96; Houston police chief, 1982-90; New York City police commissioner, 1990-92; sheriff, Multnomah County, Ore., 1975-76; public safety commissioner, Atlanta, 1978-82.

11 posted on 11/25/2001 1:24:19 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
bump for later reading
12 posted on 11/25/2001 1:32:49 PM PST by lelio
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I suspect that incompetent people get promoted because of a human tendency not to surround oneself with people better than you are. It has to do with human pride.

In the Bible, King Saul was praised by the people for killing thousands of enemy soldiers in battle. Then David came along, and was praised by the people for killing 'tens of thousands.' It didn't matter that David was unswervingly loyal to Saul; Saul got so angry, he threw a spear at David, then chased him all over Israel, trying to kill him.

13 posted on 11/25/2001 1:43:06 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...and I've worked with a pile of them in my time.
14 posted on 11/25/2001 1:43:23 PM PST by RLK
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To: stubernx98
I bet the terrorist are chuckling over the thought of government screeners at the airports!

I'm sure they'll be no worse than the folks at the license branch. (Shudder)

15 posted on 11/25/2001 1:52:55 PM PST by Dakmar
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
When Becky Boyd was a sales representative for Hewlett-Packard Co., she stopped bringing her boss along on customer calls because, she said, "he was so stupid he'd actually jeopardize sales."

I have this same problem at work. We have an individual like this in my office. We don't let him go anywhere near contractor or client meetings because he can and will screw up. In meetings with contractors, he always comes up with really stupid, unnecessary, and expensive project requirements that needlessly drive up the cost and hassle factor of projects. When dealing with clients, his incompetence jeapordizes sales. We've had to be innovative in coming up with special assignments or send him off to some school to keep him away from contractors and/or clients. This person cannot be fired because he is the fair-haired boy of somebody in upper management. This guy has been promoted out of many departments just to get him the hell out of the office to go be somebody else's problem. He will probably be promoted out of my office, too.

I sure hate to wish a terrible car accident on somebody but it's probably the only way to solve the problem.

16 posted on 11/25/2001 2:10:57 PM PST by Hillary 666
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To: JoeSchem
I suspect that incompetent people get promoted because of a human tendency not to surround oneself with people better than you are. It has to do with human pride.

Yes and survival. Like the show, the Weakest Link.
Often they gang up on the smart one to clear the path.
But in the end they always have to watch their own backs.

17 posted on 11/25/2001 2:19:45 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: redbaiter
Years ago I worked for a lawyer who ran an "unconventional" firm: He was The Boss of a bunch of younger lawyers who evidently were so hard up for jobs that they were working for him for less than McDonald's paid. And they wound up doing all the work. One word of advice that all of them gave me was "Don't let Howard (the Boss) speak to a client alone!" They were absolutely scared to let their own boss handle any legal matters because he was such a clod. And a crook. He kept stiffing them for their paychecks. One young woman stuck with him because she desperately needed the group insurance for a pre-cancerous condition that required lab tests and sometimes overnights in the hospital every other month ... it turned out that the "group" for the insurance consisted only of him and her and he let his coverage lapse, deliberately, he was dodging calls from the insurance broker, and ignoring warning letters, etc., and one day she went home and found two months' accumulated hospital bills in an envelope from the insurance company saying Your group insurance ceased to exist, pay these out of your own pocket. She first called the insurance broker, then the firm's secretary and, last, the boss - and he lied to her. She was mad enough to bite through nails. She knew he was hiding money from the IRS and creditors, and she secretly xeroxed his checkbook and his ledgers and turned it over to the Bar Disciplinary Committee and he was disbarred.

My current supervisor is a failed lawyer. He started at a topnotch job at the other end of the country and then went through a series of about ten different jobs, each one a bit less prestige and responsibility than the one before. Now he's my supervisor. He brags about his ability to read "body language" - you can read his real well; he walks out of the room while people are talking to him, if he's not interested in what you're saying then his eyes not only glaze over but they also wobble side-to-side (I thought he was having a stroke). I recently got a big honor from other members of my specialized field and when I told him he didn't want to hear it - his predecessor would have thrown a party!

18 posted on 11/25/2001 4:40:53 PM PST by DonQ
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To: Hillary 666
Sounds like our problem, only this is our boss founder of the company.
He is supposed to retire in Jan(yeah ok) he is in his mid 70's.
His production output (billable time) is so low
than all of us 7 worker bees put together have more billable
time than he does. So what do they do?
They lay off the secretary, and I am stuck doing both
of the bookkeeping and secretarial duties.
19 posted on 11/25/2001 4:49:04 PM PST by Beeline40@aol.com
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