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Shooting Match: Does the Anti-Gun Crowd Think You're Stupid?
Reason Magazine Online ^ | 11/21/01 | Sam MacDonald

Posted on 11/27/2001 3:42:44 AM PST by dansangel

How bad has the post-September 11 era been for the anti-gun lobby? To understand fully, consider a simple thought experiment:

You are dreaming cozily in your bed when you hear your front door give way with a crash. Moments later, you hear two sets of footsteps thudding up the stairs toward your bedroom. Your first thought is to pick up the phone and dial 911, but you know the intruders will be upon you long before the police arrive. As a last resort, you reach into the nightstand and pull out your .44 Magnum. You thank god that you reached it in time, open the window, toss the gun into the bushes below, and turn to face your assailants unarmed.

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Just another lame attempt by the gun-grabbers to infringe on our Second Amendment rights.
1 posted on 11/27/2001 3:42:44 AM PST by dansangel (dansangel56@msn.com)
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2 posted on 11/27/2001 3:45:37 AM PST by dansangel
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November 21, 2001

Shooting Match
Does the anti-gun crowd think you're stupid?
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How bad has the post-September 11 era been for the anti-gun lobby? To understand fully, consider a simple thought experiment:

You are dreaming cozily in your bed when you hear your front door give way with a crash. Moments later, you hear two sets of footsteps thudding up the stairs toward your bedroom. Your first thought is to pick up the phone and dial 911, but you know the intruders will be upon you long before the police arrive. As a last resort, you reach into the nightstand and pull out your .44 Magnum. You thank god that you reached it in time, open the window, toss the gun into the bushes below, and turn to face your assailants unarmed.

Welcome to Self Defense 101, according to the Violence Policy Center. In a study the anti-gun group published this Monday, VPC argues that handguns should be outlawed because they don't work. Or more specifically, they do work: You're just too stupid to figure out how to use one. Seriously.

The 90-page document is titled "Unintended Consequences: Pro-Handgun Experts Prove that Handguns Are a Dangerous Choice for Self-Defense." The report cites all the usual suspects, including numbers that show more people die from gun-related suicides than gun-related homicides. (Message: If you are dumb enough to buy a gun, you're probably dumb enough to kill yourself with it. On purpose.)

In a press release accompanying the report, its author, VPC senior policy analyst Tom Diaz, says, "This study is comprised substantially of writings from pro-gun experts who readily admit handguns are basically impossible to use effectively in self-defense."

The supposed innovation is the report's reliance on usually trigger-happy analysts who at some point during their careers mentioned that if you do buy a gun, you should probably figure out which end the bullets come out before you try to blast a burglar. There is even an appendix that serves as a preemptive strike against anyone informed enough to mention Prof. John Lott's substantial body of work as a counter-argument.

It's not exactly news that some people think that it's "basically impossible" to use a gun to defend yourself. What's more instructive here is to note just how far the anti-gun lobby has fallen, and what a recent spate of setbacks has done to the once-powerful movement. They are no longer simply wrong. They are becoming desperate.

The litany is quite gruesome, really. The disarmament coalition lost its champion when President Bill Clinton squirmed out of office. Al Gore lost the election to a Republican from gun-happy Texas, who promptly appointed John Ashcroft attorney general. Ashcroft soon added injury to insult when he wrote a letter to the National Rifle Association promising to uphold the Second Amendment as an individual right. The thrashing continued in October when the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit threw its judicial weight behind Ashcroft's interpretation. Court decisions last fall and this spring that dismissed huge city lawsuits against gun manufacturers certainly didn't help.

These official setbacks pale in comparison to a far more pervasive threat, however: People just aren't so keen on gun-control stories anymore. A National Academies of Science study that could eventually provide a sea change in gun-control laws kicked off in August. Except for a cable news representative who showed up three hours late, Reason was the only media outlet that covered it. Nobody is complaining about a provision in the aviation security bill that allows airlines to arm pilots. There is no talk of gun control in other anti-terror legislation. On October 9, a Washington Post story reported that the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence (formerly Handgun, Inc.) was hit so hard by the slowing economy and funds diverted to terror victims that the vocal organization has laid off 14 staffers, a full 20 percent of its workforce. The National Association of Chiefs of Police issued their 14th annual survey on Monday. Over 93 percent said yes to "Should any law abiding citizen be able to purchase a firearm for sport or self-defense?" Over 62 percent said concealed handgun permits would help reduce crime. This caused exactly zero waves on the political or media landscape.

John Q. Public doesn't seem so sure that it's "basically impossible" to use a gun in self defense, either. The October 22 Washington Post reported that in the month following the attacks, traffic at the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) was up 20 percent over last year. On October 15, the Los Angeles Times reported that in California, "the number of people buying guns jumped by more than 50% the week of the attacks… and has remained about 32% above the previous year." On November 8, The Dallas Morning News reported that applications for concealed-carry permits in Texas nearly tripled in the two months following September 11.

This explosion in demand is not lost on the fine folks at the Violence Prevention Center. In the aforementioned press release, officials claim that they issued the new report "in response to the reported spike in handgun sales since the September 11th attacks." They accuse the gun industry of using the terror attacks to forward its agenda. If sales are any indication—and if the best argument against guns is that people are too dumb to use them—that effort might be easier than anyone ever imagined.-------------------------------------

Sam MacDonald is Reason's Washington editor.

 
 



Why not just post the damn article and YOUR comments and be done with it? Is there anychance that someone is shilling for Reason Mag (not that IT needs a shill)?

3 posted on 11/27/2001 3:51:45 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com
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I wasn't sure of Reason's copyright laws.

My comment is that the gun-grabbers have sunk to new lows in trying to disarm law-abiding citizens.

Haven't had your coffee yet?

4 posted on 11/27/2001 3:54:05 AM PST by dansangel
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
Maybe they respect copyright laws.
5 posted on 11/27/2001 3:54:54 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: dansangel
A fun article to read. I enjoy reading about the demise of any anti-gun organization. While the Brady Campaign is not yet dead it is so sick as to be rapidly losing any sway of the populace despite its continued domination of the national media.

Stay well - Stay safe - stay armed - Yorktown

6 posted on 11/27/2001 3:57:03 AM PST by harpseal
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And what of "fair use"?

Do y'all assert that Free Republics stock-in-trade is somehow illegitimate and that the LAT et craven alii are right? AP, I'm surprised at you, being an old hand and all.

7 posted on 11/27/2001 3:58:08 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com
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To: dansangel
Home Invasions are nature's way of weeding out the gun control advocates.
8 posted on 11/27/2001 4:00:36 AM PST by Destructor
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"including numbers that show more people die from gun-related suicides than gun-related homicides."

DA, "Lies, damn lies, government statistics, and gungrabber's "statistics". The progressive order of contemporary liars. Peace and love, George.

9 posted on 11/27/2001 4:01:20 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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vpc and its spokesman, is guilty of slaying the first two amendments to the Constitution of the United States of America, wherein they use the first to attempt to destroy the second. Both are considered treasonous uses of founding documents, and worthy of a fate they sincerely desire for all guns and gunowners.
10 posted on 11/27/2001 4:01:34 AM PST by wita
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I enjoy reading about the demise of any anti-gun organization.

Me, too. That's why I thought I would share. I hope that someday such groups will become completely extinct.

11 posted on 11/27/2001 4:01:58 AM PST by dansangel
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12 posted on 11/27/2001 4:07:00 AM PST by harpseal
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
Read what I said. The copyright is held by the owner. They decide how it can be used. That is why we can't post full articles from the LAT and WP.

Myself and some others take the position that we don't want to do anything to get Jim in trouble. He has enough troubles. Also, we think it is fair to give the source the hits for the article. They paid for it and they should get the hits.

13 posted on 11/27/2001 4:08:37 AM PST by AppyPappy
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"Tom Diaz says 'This story is comprised substantially of writings from pro-gun experts who readily admit handguns are basically impossible to use effectively in self-defense.'

LIAR

14 posted on 11/27/2001 4:09:13 AM PST by wcbtinman
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To: AppyPappy
Thank-you, sir, for speaking my thoughts so eloquently. I read the "fine print" about litigation with LAT and having previously been a student of the law, I decided to err on the side of caution.

Sorry this thread got off track.

15 posted on 11/27/2001 4:11:19 AM PST by dansangel
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Hits the proverbial nail on the head.
16 posted on 11/27/2001 4:12:57 AM PST by dansangel
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Strange that the liberal anti-gun crowd would be so concerned about people deciding to end their own lives with a gun when most of them are the same people that argue that its perfectly fine for a woman to decide to end an unborn childs life. They seem a wee bit confused to me.
17 posted on 11/27/2001 4:13:30 AM PST by SirFishalot
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To: AppyPappy
The effect of the copyright is set by law and not the whim of the author. This is what is at issue with LAT. I see you agree with the liberal rag.

The only rights we have, copyright or RKBA, are the rights we defend. Fair use of copyright material is as much JR/FR's right as of the author. My Right to CCW is as much my right as yours.

Again, I'm surprised.

18 posted on 11/27/2001 4:14:08 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com
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Already posted here.
20 posted on 11/27/2001 4:22:01 AM PST by TomServo
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