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CHINESE MEDIA: US using 'India card' to contain China
EXPRESS INDIA ^ | Friday, November 30, 2001

Posted on 11/29/2001 10:50:31 PM PST by BERZERKER

With improvement in Indo-US ties, China's official media has launched a sustained barrage against US charging it with using India to 'contain' China.

"It is noticeable that the abrupt warming in Indo-US relations occurred just as a series of difficulties, including human rights conflicts and US arms sales to Taiwan, emerged in Sino-US relations," the official Outlook magazine commented.

The Chinese official media has taken note of the fact that US President George W. Bush went out of the way to meet with External Affairs Minister Jaswant Singh at the White House in April, when Washington's ties with Beijing were severely strained over the US spy plane issue.

"It is more than coincidental that the 'unexpected meeting' President Bush initiated with Singh at the White House occurred not long after the mid-air plane collision off Hainan Island, and at a time when China was protesting against the rude and unreasonable US attitude," the Outlook said.

It said while the US announced resumption of military exchanges with India, the Pentagon has declared it would examine US-China military exchanges on a case-by-case basis.

Chinese Foreign Ministry, however, said the growing Indo-US ties would be conducive to regional peace and stability.

"We hope that the development of US-India bilateral relations would be conducive for peace, stability and development in the region," Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhang Qiyue said when asked to comment on Beijing's stance on the improvement in relations between New Delhi and Washington.

He did not react when asked to comment on the views expressed by the official Chinese media.

"It is the United States that has been actively promoting Indo-US ties," a recent article in the 'Outlook' said adding, "The carrot the US is offering to India is attractive, so no wonder India is tempted to move closer and closer to the US."

In order to rope in India, the US first catered to India's "psychological desire to be seen as a world power rather than a second-rate country," it said.

The magazine said the US "sacrificed" relations with Pakistan to pander India, despite breaking the strategic balance in South Asia.

Referring to the Bush administration not sending its emissary to Islamabad to consult on the National Missile Defence system while US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage visited India, it said, "This was something the Bush administration's predecessors, including the Clinton administration, had not and would not have done."

Further, the article said that the Bush administration has no desire to get involved in the Kashmir conflict, and regards the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT) as "waste paper" because of its desire to develop NMD.

Thus, the two obstacles - India refusing to sign the CTBT and the Kashmir conflict - which blocked the development of Indo-US relations have been preliminarily cleared by the Bush administration, it said.

It also noted that US Secretary of State, Treasury Secretary and Defence Secretary have once again proposed lifting economic sanctions against India which were imposed after the 1998 nuclear tests.

Another 'device' to induce India to side with the US is the resumption of US-Indian military exchanges, which had been suspended since 1998.

Referring to India welcoming Bush's proposed security framework, the article says that New Delhi's favourable reaction was timely, saving the NMD plan from embarrassment.

The article ends by quoting Indian media reports which urged the government "not to fall into a trap set by the United States" and that "Indo-US relations should not come at the expense of Sino-Indian relations.


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1 posted on 11/29/2001 10:50:31 PM PST by BERZERKER
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To: BERZERKER
Indo-US relations should not come at the expense of Sino-Indian relations.

Is Russia expressing concern that U.S.-India relations are improving? Japan? The EC? In fact, anybody but China and a handful of rogue terrorist states?

Could it be because democratic countries do not see improved relations with other democratic countries as a threat, but as an opportunity?

There isn't a hell of a lot which the U.S. is buying from China which couldn't be produced in India for the same low wages. So just keep up the threats China, and all it will do is encourage the move away from you and to the country which will overtake you in population size within the next decade.

2 posted on 11/29/2001 11:08:17 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: BERZERKER
We seem to also be using the Russian and Japanese cards too.
3 posted on 11/29/2001 11:39:25 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: BERZERKER
China has been playing a very bad game of cards recently. They now have US forces in position near their Muslim provinces in the West.
5 posted on 11/30/2001 12:30:37 AM PST by Fulbright
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To: nuclear_spy
Dear "Nuclear Spy" or can I just call you "Mr. Spy":

The US alliance with India is not based on money, religion, or anything else.

It is based on natural tendencies, mutual interests, shared values, common threats, and people. The funny thing is, your idiotic views are even shared by huge segments of the Indian populace because India is an open society. Heck, even a sociopath like you could find friends over there.

The truth of the matter is, if you like being an American, if that is what you really are, then how can you not like India, which is one of the only true friends that the US has right now in the entire universe? There are not a lot of constitutional republics left in the world anymore. Show a little foresight, and a little brain power here. India, ironically enough, does not even really need the US, financially, militarily, diplomatically, or spiritually. That's how you know that they are friends. Neither country truly needs the other to survive. There is no parasitism here. And remember those pesky sanctions against India? Well, during that time India's economy grew at 7% per year, every year.

Get a clue, and stop watching "Gandhi" and "Passage to India." Times have changed, and you should hurry and catch up before you too, get left behind.

6 posted on 11/30/2001 12:53:47 AM PST by BERZERKER
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To: Paleo Conservative
And don't forget our support for Taiwan and South Korea.
7 posted on 11/30/2001 12:57:46 AM PST by xm177e2
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To: BERZERKER
The CHICOM's should have worried about this BEFORE they decided to screw with us and one of our planes.
8 posted on 11/30/2001 1:47:53 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Black Jade; backhoe; super175
ping
9 posted on 11/30/2001 4:32:42 AM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: Vigilanteman; Black Jade
Could it be that China is starting to feel the heat now that the US is making remarkable progress in its relations with 2 countries that have long been bitter enemies with her..(Russia, India) Both are countries that would never make the mistake of completely trusting China and who also have more to gain from a strategic military and economic alliance with the United States.
10 posted on 11/30/2001 4:38:40 AM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: nuclear_spy
Jiang Zemin, is that you? How did they ever let on on "Free Repulbic?"
11 posted on 11/30/2001 5:06:23 AM PST by USMMA_83
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To: Enemy Of The State
The Chinese have a weird view of the world. They think America just wants to be on top and that is all there is to it. They are definately applying feudal Chinese thought to today's outside world. Instead of trying to understand, they play that whole whipping boy.

Complaining about something ignorantly is far easier than trying to understand it, or why things happen the way they do.

The world does not operate the way China operates. We have different thought and different culture. The Chinese looking at the world with feudal glasses and thought all the time is isolating China even more. They are applying their cultural thought to a world that has a different culture. It does not work so easy.

This is the same problem as back in the 1800s. China does not understand the outside and does not care to, and those that DO care to, the authorities don't like it too much because it challenges their positions from the inside out. Thats why they block all the media from the west.

They are doing nothing more than preserving a political party and refering to that party as "China".

12 posted on 11/30/2001 5:08:53 AM PST by super175
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To: BERZERKER
Are these the same Chinese who got off on watching the planes hit the WTC? To hell with them. The only reason to care about how they "feel", is to make sure we're not on the same side. Filthy, creepy, dirty, underhanded...
13 posted on 11/30/2001 10:10:58 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: super175
The Chinese need to isolate themselves.

They're not fit for polite company.... Geting off on seeing innocent citizens die in New York. What pigs they are.

We need to encourage them to stay away, off in their own little world where no one notices how gross they are.

The Chinese looking at the world with feudal glasses and thought all the time is isolating China even more.

14 posted on 11/30/2001 10:14:54 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: ChaseR
ping
15 posted on 11/30/2001 11:18:34 AM PST by JD86
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To: BERZERKER
There is little, if any, lobbying from India to extend or expand the H1B program. On the contrary, there are software entrepreneurs from the Bengalore-Chennai area who'd like to see it ended or scaled back so they wouldn't have to compete for engineers.

The lobbying for H1B comes almost exclusively from the American software industry who wants a source of cheap labour to exploit. In Japan, employers are actually required to pay skilled foreigners a small premium in wages over their Japanese counterparts to ensure hiring them and firing locals is not an option. And, guess what?-- We still have a large staff of Indian engineers here.

If the U.S. had the political will to institute something similar, you would see some, but not total reduction in the number of Indian immigrants. Those who remained would tend to be the highly skilled entrepreneurial type rather than those who naturally see themselves as part of an exploited pool of indentured servants subject to the call of the DemocRAT party. Your comment on the state of politics is partially right, but the fact is that India has turned sharply to the right. Even the Marxist-tilting Congress Party has started to change their ways.

16 posted on 11/30/2001 1:20:49 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: BERZERKER; ChaseR
Ping.

Berz, you don't seem to understand in an interdependent economic relationship what a TOTAL ban on imported goods and laborers from India, and on Indian nationals' fund transfers back to their relatives in the mother country would do to their 7% GDP growth.... Try an economic implosion. Still insist they don't need us? B as in B and S as in S.

17 posted on 12/01/2001 4:53:48 PM PST by Paul Ross
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To: ChaseR
ping
19 posted on 12/02/2001 12:48:18 PM PST by JD86
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