Government losses of 4 men were due to friendly fire, and all had been personal bodyguards of Bill Clinton, three of them had been such when he visited Waco some 6 or 7 months earlier. The fourth had served as such, but not in Waco...

It is interesting that our current President has a compound outside Waco, just to the West, much as Koresh had a compound outside Waco just to the East...but we are always told that the Bush ranch is in "Crawford," while we were never told that Koresh was at "Axtell" or at "Elk," the comparable hamlets there. All of these are in McLellan county, whose large city and seat is Waco.

Please, please, please, please, please, get it straight. Regardless of whether the Davidian members had been members of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church or still had their names on the books as members, THEY WERE NOT PRACTICING MEMBERS!!!!

Quit trying to link them to a church that didn't condone anything they were doing! SDAs do not live in communes. They do not share wives. They do not approve of sex with young girls. They do not support the theory that David Koresh was Christ. They do not support the theory that David Koresh was the hand of God, determining the message of the seven seals.

Talk about the Davidians all you want. Leave the SDA church out of it! How many lapsed Catholics have committed grave crimes. Just because a lapsed Catholic robs a bank, it doesn't mean that the Pope approves.

Thanks for dumping the SDA reference in your future posts.

I will never forget the children and I hold Butch Reno and the Clintoons responsible for their torture and murder. For victory & freedom!!!

WOW, why is this up now? Did the FEDS kill other new people at WACO today or are we still trying to defend the loons that wouldn't come out? PS: I don't have a stock pile of weapons and fuel behind any walls. Wink Wink!

CHILDREN GOT FRIED THAT DAY! For victory & freedom!!!

An 8 yr old Branch Davidian girl was found after the fire, laying on her side, her mangled body twisted grossly backwards till her feet angled towards her forehead. This child did not die of flames twisting her body. She had no carbon monoxide in her system.

Click for picture of her, Warning: Graphic Content!

She died in agonizing pain from the CS gas. The ensuing seizures and powerful wrenching muscle spasms caused her body to bow in such a manner. It would have taken her agonizing minutes to die...

"I cry to think of what went through those mothers minds as they choked and gasped for air, watching their babies vomit and die the siezures taking the infants and twisting them. How DARE our government impose such a sentence!"

 
After breaking into tears, Sonny Bono had to look away from Jack Zimmerman as he testified about the babies, and the effects the gas had on them.

Buffalo Bob Sez: Janet Reno; I hope your last years are full of constant, intense pain. I hope every shake of your deteriorating condition reminds you of the babies and mothers who wriggled in pain. You authorized the use of CS gas which was banned for use against foreign enemies by an international agreement in 1969. Usage of CS gas, is considered a "crime against humanity" and is punishable by prison and severe penalties, yet you found it suitable to use against Texas women, children and babies.

I hope the end comes the same for you as it did for those two criminals in the movie Ghost. I wish I could be there in your last moments as those dark deamons rise from the ashes of Hell itself to take you kicking and screaming to meet your Master whom you have served so well, as you begin to serve your eternal sentence in the place reserved for Elite Members of the New Butt Order (NBO).

"There is no spot of ground so holy as where defeated valor lies."

Kathrine Andrade and Shari Doyle, two children who died at Waco. Never forget!

CHILDREN GOT FRIED THAT DAY! For victory & freedom!!!

5 posted on 12/3/01 11:37 AM Pacific by Saundra Duffy

There parents were devils for putting them in harms way. So many times they were begged to be let go. I think those parents went to the same place as those Taliban do with the 72 virgins.

You missed the whole point of my post. Which was: that they DID NOTHING WRONG, broke no laws, were innocent victims. Furthermore, my mention of their SDA background was TO HELP ESTABLISH THEIR BONA FIDES AS DECENT CHRISTIAN HUMAN BEINGS, not to tar them with any kind of brush.

Perhaps you were loaded for bear because of some things of the sort I too have seen which amount to Koresh is a loony, Koresh is bad, Koresh (& friends) are former SDA, therefore SDA too is bad and kooky, etc.

But that is hardly what I have said: what I said amounts to, SDA is decent and harmless, even beneficial; Koresh (& friends) are of SDA extraction and membership; therefore Koresh & co. are probably decent, harmless, even beneficial and thus deserve the benefit of the doubt!

Never forget there parents put them there and wouldn't let them go. The ultimate act of child abuse.

Granted Reno was a F up. But parents were crazy to go into a Manson style compound with that loon.

Thanks for the tribute to the children. May we never forget.

They were asked to open their doors and come out. There were unsafe conditions for children there to say the least.

Weapons and fuel lined up against inside walls are SO AGAINST THE LAW by the way!

Open the door and come out and NONE of this would have happened. Their FREE WILL CHOICE caused their own downfall.

It's ashame those children had those parents. Still, it is terrible the parents caused their childrens death. Very sad!

Government losses of 4 men were due to friendly fire,

Only one was due to friendly fire, or so I'm told here on Free Republic.

It is interesting that our current President has a compound outside Waco, just to the West, much as Koresh had a compound outside Waco just to the East...but we are always told that the Bush ranch is in "Crawford," while we were never told that Koresh was at "Axtell" or at "Elk," the comparable hamlets there. All of these are in McLellan county, whose large city and seat is Waco.

Find Axtell or Elk on a Texas map, pal.

Crawford is a city, with a city government. These other two burgs are in no way comparable to Crawford. There are no post offices in Texas tied to Axtell or Elk either.

And what is the point anyway? You're pi**ed that Vernon Howell (who's at room temperature) doesn't get equal billing with the President of the United States?

You're a head case.

"But parents were crazy to go into a Manson style compound with that loon."

"crazy", "Manson", "compound", "loon". Do you get paid by the word for the number of words from the official Waco-propaganda list that you can squeeze into one post?

Moron - take a hike liberal dreck.

prambo

Moron - take a hike liberal dreck.

prambo

I have indeed found both Axtell and Elk on my Texas map, had done so before I posted, and the print is the same size as that for Crawford.

Axtell and Crawford obviously do have post offices; I do not know for sure about Elk.

That these simple throw-away-line facts have drawn such a disproportionate response from you, suggests that it is not I who am the head case.

This must be your first post. What has it got to do with this thread?