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Dow Surges Past 10,000 Mark
AP | 12/5/01 | Amy Baldwin

Posted on 12/05/2001 10:00:09 AM PST by TPartyType

By Amy Baldwin
AP Business Writer
Wednesday, December 5, 2001; 1:19 PM

NEW YORK –– Technology shares led the stock market higher for a second straight session Wednesday, helping to propel the Dow Jones industrials up by triple digits and into the 10,000 level. The advance also lifted the Nasdaq composite index past 2,000.

Investors bet that the battered sector would trigger a new bull market. Upbeat comments from Cisco Systems and Oracle fed the growing optimism.

Amid heavy trading in early afternoon, the Dow surged 181.50, or 1.8 percent, to 10,075.34, adding to Tuesday's 129-point advance. The Dow has not closed above 10,000 since Sept. 5, when it finished at 10,033.27.

Broader stock indicators also rose sharply. The Nasdaq composite index soared 75.12, or 3.8 percent, to 2,038.22. The tech-focused index hasn't finished above 2,000 since Aug. 7 when it stood at 2,027.29.

The Standard & Poor's 500 index, which is Wall Street's widest measure, gained 21.85, or 1.9 percent, to 1,166.65.

Analysts attributed technology's strong run to buying by professional money managers looking to improve yearly performance. Historically, analysts said, the sector fares best in the fourth quarter.

"We are coming to the end of the year, and portfolio managers are reaching for performance. And tech stocks have done the best this quarter," said Richard Dickson, technical analyst for Hilliard Lyons in Louisville, Ky.

Technology has made the biggest strides since the Sept. 11 terror attacks. Through Tuesday's session, the Nasdaq has risen nearly 38 percent from its post-attack low of 1,423.19 on Sept. 21. The Dow has moved up 20.1 percent from its low; the S&P, up 18.5 percent.

Wall Street is also increasingly optimistic about an economic recovery occurring next year, and investors don't want to miss out on the market's next upturn, analysts said.

"You are getting momentum going. And, momentum begets momentum," Dickson said. . . .


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Woooohooooo! I've been waiting for this.
1 posted on 12/05/2001 10:00:09 AM PST by TPartyType
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To: Willie Green
*ping* ;^)
2 posted on 12/05/2001 10:04:02 AM PST by eureka!
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To: TPartyType
I am of the opinion that this market is very overvalued, so I am not holding any stocks at this time. Can anyone explain to me why the DJIA should be worth over 10k in the current economy? Has anyone actually looked at the average P/E of the NASDAQ lately? Not mention the whole "pro forma" earnings reporting that writes off everything but payroll as a "one time, non-recurring" expense. Please help me understand these current valuations!
3 posted on 12/05/2001 10:05:31 AM PST by Billy_bob_bob
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To: TPartyType
Well Democrats can't be too happy about this especially with the nation at war. They have been banking on a soft economy to help them take back The House and hold The Senate. Seem President Bush's Leadership during this operation does not have investors too worried. I hope President Bush and Republicans are remembered for helping to rebuild the economy and turning back The Clinton/Gore Recession!!!
4 posted on 12/05/2001 10:08:22 AM PST by Trueblackman
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To: TPartyType
Over 10 thou....and nary a dot.bomb in the bunch.
5 posted on 12/05/2001 10:12:00 AM PST by N. Theknow
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To: TPartyType
Oh yeah baby! The party is on again! The economy is recovering. I'm going out today an getting a second on my mortgage. I'm gonna max out my credit cards. I'm even gonna sell all my gold Panda's. I'm gonna invest in this fabulous new market....and I'm going in for the long haul! OH....by the way....how are those P/E's lookin??
6 posted on 12/05/2001 10:16:21 AM PST by hove
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To: TPartyType
Glad to see you are so happy.
7 posted on 12/05/2001 10:16:21 AM PST by eternity
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Don't just look at the high valuations -- ask yourself why these companies should be worth any less now than they were two years ago.

I predicted earlier this year that the tech sector was going to rebound strongly in 2002. That forecast was based entirely on tax law and the effect that Y2K had on equipment replacement cycles. Because capital equipment can be depreciated for tax purposes over three years, businesses have an incentive to replace high-tech equipment as soon as they even think they need it. As a result, there is an expectation that in any given year approximately one out of every three computers, copiers, cell phones, etc. will be replaced.

Y2K changed all of that because many companies interrupted their three-year cycle in 1999 and replaced much of their equipment on a one-time basis even if it wasn't due for replacement until 2000 or 2001. The direct result of this replacement cycle interruption was that sales of high-tech equipment were depressed in 2000 and 2001.

2002 figures to be a banner year for the tech stocks, since all of that stuff that was purchased in 1999 will be due for replacement.

You heard it here first.

A comment about overvaluation, though. A company with a P/E ratio of 40 can hardly be considered "overvalued" in the current climate, since it is providing a return of 2.5% in an age when interest rates are at historical lows. When you factor in the growth potential for this company, a P/E ratio of 40 may be a bargain.

8 posted on 12/05/2001 10:17:50 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
That's some brilliant analysis!
9 posted on 12/05/2001 10:23:34 AM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Billy_bob_bob
To be honest, I own only a few thousand dollars worth of munies. What I know about stocks you could fit in a thimble and have plenty of room left over! But, for me, the 10,000 mark is symbolic, and I want to celebrate this facet of our nation's return to normalcy. Call me a sappy sentimentalist, I just get a little excited about it.
10 posted on 12/05/2001 10:24:04 AM PST by TPartyType
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To: Trueblackman
Don't celebrate too soon. The stock market right now is a bettors game and is not a true indicator of economic conditions. Look at factory production,unemployment figures and consumer spending as weather vane.
11 posted on 12/05/2001 10:25:20 AM PST by orfisher
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Coming from Inspector Harry Callahan, I regard that as a real compliment. In fact, I'm quite flattered. Good to see that you're still posting on FreeRepublic!

People point to the Microsoft suit in early 2000 as the start of the tech slide, but the truth is that the slide began beneath the surface on January 1, 2000. Companies like Dell, Cisco, and Microsoft had nobody to sell to except new start-ups, since everyone had purchased new equipment throughout 1999.

12 posted on 12/05/2001 10:28:54 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: TPartyType
Just wait until earnings season. Equities are still grossly overvalued. This is a bear rally.
13 posted on 12/05/2001 10:42:17 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: TPartyType; Slip18
Horray
14 posted on 12/05/2001 10:45:39 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: Alberta's Child
I predicted earlier this year that the tech sector was going to rebound strongly in 2002. That forecast was based entirely on tax law and the effect that Y2K had on equipment replacement cycles. Because capital equipment can be depreciated for tax purposes over three years, businesses have an incentive to replace high-tech equipment as soon as they even think they need it. As a result, there is an expectation that in any given year approximately one out of every three computers, copiers, cell phones, etc. will be replaced.

Do you think that the PC and equipment replacement cycle are not anticipated in earnings projections? Of course they are. Here's the kicker though. There is so much spare equipment on the market that companies are basically self-insuring. Why by a new Cisco router when you can buy one on E-bay from a dot-bomb for 1/3 the cost? Also, have you noticed the PC price war? What does it mean when the anticipated volume is replaced but at lower revenues? Oh, and one more thing, do you think the tightening of the screws in capital expenditures by companies that don't want to spend any cash will impact the three year replacement cycle?

15 posted on 12/05/2001 10:47:34 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Ya gotta watch The Bear..cause it'll bite you on the ass..this is the type of froth that precedes the big blow-off....it's due to a lot of institutional window dresing, before year's end....much of Wall Street gets its bonus based upon YTD performance figures......so the lasts iota of "irrational exuberance" will blow itself up....the markets are soooo overvalued it isn't funny.....Krispy Kreme needs to collapse by 75%..BTW..look for Amazon to file chapt11 after X-mas....
16 posted on 12/05/2001 10:48:23 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Alberta's Child
That is an excellent analysis AC. Being in the technology department (and replacing hardware every 3 years..), as well as having many good friends in the financial market, I'm amazed this is the first time I've seen the two put together. I think I'll go tout your theory and claim credit for it.. (haha!)
17 posted on 12/05/2001 10:49:34 AM PST by yournamehere
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To: yournamehere
Being in the technology department (and replacing hardware every 3 years..), as well as having many good friends in the financial market, I'm amazed this is the first time I've seen the two put together.

Please tell me these friends are not analysts. If so, can you tell me who they work for to make sure I never read one of there recommendations....;-)

18 posted on 12/05/2001 10:53:30 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Stop that talk RIGHT NOW. Go drink your kool-aid and listen to Abby Joseph Cohen and Lou Rukeyser and quit asking such pesky little questions!! ; )
19 posted on 12/05/2001 10:56:51 AM PST by LN2Campy
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To: Alberta's Child
Y2K changed all of that because many companies interrupted their three-year cycle in 1999 and replaced much of their equipment on a one-time basis even if it wasn't due for replacement until 2000 or 2001. The direct result of this replacement cycle interruption was that sales of high-tech equipment were depressed in 2000 and 2001.

2002 figures to be a banner year for the tech stocks, since all of that stuff that was purchased in 1999 will be due for replacement.

You heard it here first.

Spot On, but they didn't hear it from you first. When this economic slump started in March of 2000, myself along with several others here made the very same observation. Speaking from personal experieince, the company I work for replaced all it's financial and HR systems in '99 in preparation for Y2K, replaced ALL our antiquated AIX Unix servers with new, and replaced our mainframe. The total dollar amount invested in technology that year was staggering, and we've been waiting to achieve our max ROI prior to doing a technology refresh again.

I said back in March 2000 that I suspected we weren't the only ones, and as it turns out --- we weren't. Q2 of '02 is going to be *spectacular* ...

That, you're hearing here first. :)

20 posted on 12/05/2001 11:01:06 AM PST by usconservative
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